shit rots your teeth anyway
Are you just talking about sugar content or something more?
Now this is a controversial thread
Oh no! Anyway
I don’t get it. Am I too American?
Yep. It’s sold in Italy and it’s arguably better than Capri Sun. I’ve actually never seen Capri Sun in the supermarket shelves.
Pesca makes it sound like fish juice
That’s “pesce” but you’re somehow right lmao
Pescado is Spanish for fish.
It gets worse, they are switching the line to whoop-ass, it will no longer come in a can.
So, what!? Now I have to pop a straw in a pouch of whoopass?! What is this world coming to!?!?!
Dude don’t make me straw up this whoop-ass.
But the original package seems like such an efficient way to injest micro-plastics. I hope the bottles have the annoying safety rings that are hard for people to open because they probably also produce micro-plastics.
I can’t speak for how the different materials degrade over time, but at least the old mylar bags were shielded from sunlight.
They were polyester-reverse side printed to aluminum then laminated to polyethylene.
The article doesn’t actually say they are phasing out pouches, just that they are introducing bottles.
Yeah thats fair.
The outrage might even be a result of corporate marketing strategy.
Maybe I should alakazam the post?
Seems they updated the article title, which now says the exact opposite of your post title.
Unsure if you can edit. Here’s the new title:
Capri Sun promises they aren’t phasing out pouches after reports of a switch to bottles ruined childhoods everywhere
I have always, for the entirety of their existence, hated those dumb pouches. Good riddance as far as I’m concerned.
Seconded. And trying to stab the flexing surface with that weak-ass straw.
Skill issue 😉
Unironically, there’s a technique to it. I forgot how after I got older, and was genuinely frustrated trying to drink from one until I remembered how to do it.
They made a really loud noise in the lunchroom if you inflated the pouch all the way, folded over the straw to seal it, then stomped on it really hard with your shoe. This was before mentally deranged people started shooting up schools though, so maybe don’t try it.
Mentally deranged people have been shooting up schools since before Capri Sun was even invented…
How old are you?
I’m not going to look it up to verify, but I’m pretty sure Capri Sun existed before Columbine.
Columbine was far from the first school shooting. According to the Washington Post:
“The first recorded school shooting in the United States was in 1853 at a schoolhouse in Louisville, Kentucky. On November 2, 1853, Matt Ward shot and killed teacher William H.G. Butler with a pistol hidden in his coat pocket.”
And - Rudolf Wild invented the drink in 1969
I think the very important point you’re missing is that schools did not exist in fear of school shootings before Columbine. There were no lockdown drills and crazy security measures for entering and leaving the building. So making a big loud noise would not make people instantly think someone was shooting up the school like it very well might today.
I’m not sure how I missed that from their first post. /s
I get it, you’re scared. Noone was ever scared like that before.
I think you replied to the wrong post
I know it’s not the first, I never claimed it was. But as someone who is old enough to remember what life was like before Columbine, that was the one that changed everything. That’s when we started having active shooter drills.
Then 9/11 just amplified it.
The pouches seem like less plastic.
They have these revolutionary containers made from paper that is layered in order to make it hard and card like. Almost stiff as a board. And is capable of holding liquids and also breaks down very easily. 😒
What are they lined with to prevent them from getting soggy from contact with the liquid?
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Probably parrafin.
Take a wild guess what parrafin is made from…
Not sure if it has the same issues breaking down as plastic, but it’s still a petroleum byproduct, so we should probably be moving away from it.
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Probably Teflon 🤣💀
I’m in!
First World Problems
Hated this greasy garbage as a kid
Greasy?
Seems he got a bad bag, I guess.
I don’t care about the nostalgia, but they are going to stop being easy to squeeze into a lunchbox now, so I’ll find a different brand.
Sad, from a nostalgia point of view, but probably a win, environmentally. We have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles, the mylar pouches are pretty much all single use.
We actually don’t have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles though, right?
Why aren’t we just using glass, as we did for decades just fine.
Well that would be because the god-king CEO would have like 45k less per year out of his 38,000,000 dollar salary without bonuses and stock value if we were to do that, you fuckin peasant idiot chump. Not only that but their enabling middle management might have as much as $200 less in their annual bonuses. Think for someone else other than yourself for once.
That’s not actually a solution when talking single-use either. Remaking the bottles from recycled glass is incredibly energy intensive and not an environmentally friendly process either. Multi-use bottles are much better, but the cleaning required also isn’t that simple and also relatively energy intensive (far from remaking the bottles of course).
There’s also practical downsides to glass (heavy, breakable), but those are subjective and their relevance highly depends on the use case.
Ideally, we wouldn’t buy stuff to drink in any kind of bottle, but just use tap water. possibly just buy some concentrated stuff to then make your actual drink at home. Nothing beats the effectiveness of transporting water through a simple pipe, but that isn’t even possible everywhere in the world due to drinking water quality issues…
If micro plastics in the water supply is an actual issue long term the tap water will be shot for the whole of most places. Reverse osmosis systems are the only ones I had heard could reliably help, but I haven’t gone to extensive on looking into that. Each household may someday need under the sink or such systems if so : /. Unless we can reliably do so at treatment plants and then transport it through the lines without the water getting any back in. With many American cities having water at its current state, I don’t see that happening.
A lot of glass bottles aren’t melted down, but simply washed and reused.
Good job with reading you did there. Your didn’t even make it 8 words in and already decided to comment. Maybe give it another go, if you dare, and try getting a little further this time.
A surprising number of companies actually do sell powder versions of their drinks on the web. I buy both Arizona tea and A&W root beer packets online.
Our school won’t let us send reusable glass containers excuse of fear of breakage.
I kinda understand, but our first grader has been using them for snacks at home for 5 years and never broken one.
Bottle deposit systems are generally effective. In Sweden we recycle 90-95% of the pet plastic in drink bottles. We don’t really recycle the hdpe lids or polyester labels, though.
When you say “we” as in you and me, yeah, I don’t think we could manage to recycle them. “We” as a planet certainly can and many countries do.
Which countries? I thought only 9% of plastic is actually recycled.
But much better to use aluminium.
At least aluminum actually is recyclable.
Plastic and glass aren’t recyclable huh? Better just throw them in the landfill, much better.
There is still a plastic liner on the inside, glass, stainless steel or nothing
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Microplastics aren’t nothing
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Non acidic things don’t get either of these. Anything acidic goes into glass and non gets SS. Have a return system (beer store in Ontario does this)
Source on this “pipeline”?
…do you not believe bottles are recycled? Or is this just a snarky way of pointing out how ineffective the system is?
I was a bit too snarky
If you even thought to say that, I can’t blame you for your original comment.
Yeah, it’s really sad how bad plastic is currently destroying our environment. Humans have to be able to see further into the future than “will I live to see the consequences of my actions? Because if not, I can’t worry about them”
I agree,
It pisses me off that you can slap a recycling logo on a plastic bottle and call it a day when the process is nearly impossible and hardy ever done.
If you think recycling is effective you have fallen to their propaganda
Oh no, something is ineffective, we better abandon the whole idea!
Yes, actually. We should abandon the whole idea. We should actually stop using plastics for everything. That’s the correct take.
Something like 9% of plastic gets recycled.
Great, you not only read my mind but you are also spreading gloom about an extremely well known issue. Beautiful.
I don’t think I could have lived in society for the past 15 years without hearing about this issue at least 5 times a year, and I’m not sure what made you think otherwise.
I want change, ignoring the problem doesn’t makebthe issue go away
Recycling bin > recycling lorry > container > third world country > sea.
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I very specifically remember the controversy 15-20 years ago when it was found that many of these pouches had mold in them, and you couldn’t see it because of the pouch or even taste it. I’m sure the quality control since then has improved, but any time I see a pouch of juice, I think about that mold incident.
Is that why some brands made the back of the pouch transparent?
I would assume so. I would also think a lot of people just aren’t comfortable consuming something that they can’t see.
Now if only we could get transparent aluminum cans.
(I mean technically we can? But it wouldn’t be the same. Just super dense synthetic corundum at best.)
it would be so crazy if we used that one barely functional tried and true for hundreds if not thousands of years product called glass.
I know a guy who can help.
Yes
When they started doing the childrens semi-solid foods (applesauce) in similar packs, they had the exact same problem for YEARS
The form factor sucks ass and I wish they’d find a better way for both types of product
Good, the packages can’t even be recycled. Corporations should be held liable for their plastic waste contributions via the packaging.
you only need to make them pay the price of each packaging every day until it biodegrades. you’ll see change very quickly.
They’ll spend 300millions in lawyer fees to find a loophole where they only need to pay one packet for the time it takes to burn.
You think the bottles are going to be any better? They’re going to end up in the ocean with all of the other plastic bottles from other drinks.
No, glass or stainless steel
Not aluminum? Have you ever seen single serving drinks sold in stainless steel?
Single serving things should be illegal, only things needs to be single serving is shit found in a hospital
Single serving containers for food have their place, but there’s nothing that can’t be stored in either wax paper, aluminum, or glass(in that order). Aluminum is probably the best balance between recyclability and weight(fuel need to transport . You can even make aluminum “bottles” that fit in preexisting vending machines.
PET bottles are very easily recicled. In my country a sizeable amount of PET bottles sold are 100%recycled PET
But only a small fraction of the plastic gets recycled.
If 9/10ths of the plastic ends up in a landfill or the Pacific garbage patch, having 1/10th of that plastic recycled into another bottle (which then will eventually have 9/10ths tossed in a landfill anyways) isn’t doing much. It’s better than not recycling at all, but it’s green washing to say that it’s “eco friendly”, which Capri-Sun allegedly did at this trade show.
Any plastic should be considered recyclable. At least pouches use less overall plastic then bottles.
Most plastics are difficult (if at all possible) to recycle.
I agree. Fixed my grammar.
Thanks Biden
