In the wake of his 17-year jail sentence, Joseph Bigg said: “Oh, I know he’ll pardon. I believe that with all my heart.”

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    I don’t think he gets that Trump will NEVER be elected again. It’s possible for Trump to even wind up in a state or federal penitentiary; assuming that his defense fails to convince a judge.

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      He’s almost certainly going to be the Republican candidate. There’s a very real treath of him becoming president again.

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          I wish I was…

          Two activist groups are trying to convince the secretaries of a handful of states to disqualify Trump because they believe his actions on January 6 fall under section 3 of the 14th amendment. As of now these efforts have not born any fruit. I’ll be celebrating with you if they ever do.

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      I remember being one of the fools who thought he wouldn’t stand a chance the first time around.

      This time around I’m praying and I’m not even religious.

      I live in red country. I hear them every day. Teachers, lawyers, doctors, nurses, police officers, farmers, constructions workers, welders, even dirt poor disabled welfare recipients. They all say, “I can’t wait until Trump gets back in and fixes this mess.”

      The media they consume all says he’s innocent. The podcasts they listen to all cheer for the day his political opponents are jailed.

      Even with the recording where he pressured officials to find more votes. Even with all of the charges. Even with the republicans who come out and talk about his crimes.

      To them it’s all political theater from the left. It’s all a big conspiracy to take down the greatest man who ever lived.

      I’ve heard the words, “poor old Trump. It’s a shame what they’re putting him through, and he just keeps going because he loves America.”

      The threat is real. Please please please, don’t think for a second he can’t win.

      • I remember telling people it’s possible and having a whole bunch of online folk tell me how Stephen Wang from Princeton said there was a 98% chance that Democrats would win.

        Nate Silver went from being congratulated for his predictions to getting criticized for mentioning that there were correlated errors which could easily result in a Republican president. It was interesting because Silver wasn’t even predicting a Republican victory just a 40% chance it could happen.

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        Please stop spreading misinformation. Donald Trump cannot win. The 14th amendment prohibits it.

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          You are wrong and certain, which makes you dangerous. Unless convicted of these crimes, nothing is stopping him. Basically you are setting the bar so anyone can yell sedition in a crowded theater, and now no one there can be president.

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            No, you are absolutely wrong. Trump HAS charges against him on both state and federal levels.

            The 14th amendment places no emphasis on a judge finding one guilty. Therefore yes; it can be that broad. We can show he did something; Congress, DoJ and a State would not be investigating otherwise.

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          There is no clear mechanic to do that with. I am sure some blue states will pull him off the ballot but he was going to lose those states anyhow. When it goes to court you know and I know the Supreme Court will grab it and say it doesn’t count for whatever bullshit reason they come up with.

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            The wording of the 14th amendment is clear. SCOTUS will not save him if he catches a conviction; which he is under about 100+ counts of across Congress, Federal and State courts. I place the likelihood of all of those charges failing at near zero

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          This is blatantly false. The 14th Amendment prohibits it.

          Quote the part of the 14th Amendment where it prohibits someone from being elected to an office. I’ll link the Amendment here: https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/

          If you read what i said, i differentiated between being elected and holding office. Careful when you say something is “blatantly false”. That sounds like you were accusing me of lying, and that can create a toxic community.