I often see people in the comments acting like having a fast or loud car immediately makes your dick smaller or that you have ED. And people talk about owning a car as if they’ve never gone above 40 MPH and are terrified to do so.
For context I live in a city with actually ok mass transit, don’t own a car, and prefer to bike/take the train whenever possible. Trains, trolleys, bikes, and feet are the best forms of transportation imo.
That being said, body shaming or making fun of people with physical or mental issues (that may be no fault of their own) is just shitty. It makes this community look shitty. I hate reading comments about “loud car small dick this” or “fast car ED that”. It’s unnecessary. You can shit on asshole drivers without having to stoop that low. Secondly, some women enjoy cars as well; be more creative.
Finally, don’t act like cars can’t be fun. I’m all for phasing out the automobile and revolutionizing transport by returning to the ways of olde, but cars are fun. I understand some of you are grandparents and don’t like someone revving their straight pipes mustang down your block on a Saturday morning. That’s completely reasonable. But my god does this community act like you can’t have fun in a car. I absolutely enjoy loud and fast and powerful cars, because that’s an incredible work of engineering and it simply can be fun. Going fast can be fun. Being in a car that purrs like a lion can be fun. Going offroading or drifting or racing or anything in a car can be fun.
We won’t convince people to see our side by shitting on the things they enjoy. We convince people to try and see things from our point of view by actually looking through their perspective first, and acknowledging that while cars can be fun they are not sustainable.
ETA: Some people seem to think I think public roads should still be for cars. Never did I say that. I think the appropriate place for cars is the track. I would love to convert all the roads in my city to a mixture of bike and pedestrian lanes with trolleys running down the median. But cars can be fun and a track day can absolutely be a great time.
Yeah, I don’t care for the those kinds of jokes. However, I care for tone policing even less. Maybe the occasional comment like “ok buddy, maybe that one went a bit far” is fine, but now we’re having a entire thread about it and now I’m spending my time commenting on this instead of commenting on what is actually a Big Deal which is that cars in urban settings suck monkey balls.
(sorry monkeys!)
I’m not arguing against that last point at all. See the edit for my stance. I’m not trying to tone police — people are understandably and justifiably angry about the prevalence of cars as am I. But there seems to be a common undercurrent in this community that cars are just the pinnacle of evil and their existence must end. I’m just pushing against that because while I would love if cars weren’t used in my city, I’d still like for there to be a track to enjoy these marvels of engineering.
There is always an element on any social media trying to police language of others.
Human nature I guess alogn with sucking too much corporate dick
Finally, don’t act like cars can’t be fun.
GTFO. Cars are not fun at all. I’ve been driving them for decades. They suck. Bikes are fun. Gokarts are fun. Cars are garbage. Don’t try to gaslight me.
that’s an incredible work of engineering
It’s really not. It’s trash from 100+ years ago.
Being in a car that purrs like a lion can be fun.
Creepy.
Hey I get it though. Nuclear missiles can be “fun” too. With the big noises and the fast rocket! VROOOOOMM! VROOOM!!! Just don’t tell that BS to my face.
I guess you’re one of the people who haven’t driven above 40mph.
But seriously, just because you don’t enjoy something doesn’t mean that no one else can. I don’t particularly like driving, but I had fun when the rental car company only had a convertible instead of an economy car.
I’ve never gaslighted (gaslit?) anyone before, can I try?
Do or do not. There is no try.
Eh, I don’t feel like it anymore :/
On this day, meds were not taken.
I dont agree with anything else OP says, but cars can be fun.
They are fun if you can choose to drive them when you want to.
They are not fun if you are forced to use them every day.
And I am not talking about polluting the whole neigborhood with noise and exhaust fumes fun, thats just asshole behaviour.
I still have a 110HP Nissan NV200 (small Bus) that I use mostly to get to my rural family and when I go full throttle in lower gears the acceleration is fun. Keep in mind that its a stock exhaust and Euro 6, so its not loud even at full throttle and the exhaust is reasonably clean.
But most of the time I ride my bike everywhere, because that is even more fun.
Completely normal response
So you’re trying to say that we can’t blame and piss around about stupid loud and disrespectful cars and car drivers in a community named “Fuck cars”?
C’mon… We’re here cause we’re pissed off with cars and cars-centric cities that are driving us insane. We’re not here to convince anyone, or else the community couldn’t be named “Fuck cars”.
This comment is a great illustration of what’s wrong with social media. All communities eventually become echo chambers where no one really cares about respectful discussion, criticism or facts.
Finally, don’t act like cars can’t be fun.
I feel like we’re getting into 2A territory with comments like this.
Take your race car to the race track. But the idea that trillions of dollars of infrastructure need to be committed for the casual amusement of a few muscle car enthusiasts… It rings especially hollow after complaining about the small-dick jokes.
We won’t convince people to see our side by shitting on the things they enjoy.
Creating a wedge between a small group of clueless entitled nitwits and a large group of people with basic transportation needs is actually a great way to define the terms of debate in a manner that favors mass transit.
A hundred people smiling away on a train versus one very red-faced failson in a sports car is a winning campaign poster.
I’m not saying don’t restrict cars to the track, I’m actually all for that. I’m just saying that cars can be fun and acting like they aren’t won’t get us anywhere. I didn’t advocate for continuous car infrastructure anywhere in my post, just that people in this community act like cars are the bane of all evil and can’t be used for fun whatsoever.
I’m just saying that cars can be fun and acting like they aren’t won’t get us anywhere.
Planes can be fun, too. Yachts can be fun. A spaceship to the Moon can be fun. But demanding the government give you a bunch of money to fund your Blue Origin vanity project goes a bit beyond “having fun”.
people in this community act like cars are the bane of all evil
40k motor vehicle fatalities a year can take the blush off the rose.
I don’t go for making fun of people’s imagined dicks or sexual performance. Seems immature and bundled with problematic paradigms.
People can have fun with cars, true. People can have fun with anything. The problem is cars are everywhere and not limited to fun places. like if people had a “cover yourself in honey” fetish and just went everywhere covered in honey, demanded honey dispensers everywhere, got everything sticky, and started wars over honeybees. I don’t care how much fun they’re having , they’re making everything worse for everyone else.
See the edit to the post. I’m not advocating for cars everywhere. But people in this community seem to believe that cars simply shouldn’t exist.
Twinkies are horrible for you and evidence of the sin of capitalism, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t tasty and nice as an occasional treat. If capitalism didn’t exist they probably wouldn’t exist, but I’d still make Twinkies if we had star trek replicators.
But people in this community seem to believe that cars simply shouldn’t exist.
I don’t think most people genuinely believe cars should exist for no one. I think some posts here are hyperbolic, like when you say “I’m going to kill my brother for stealing my Pokemon cards”, you don’t really mean it. It’s an emotional outlet.
Most people I’ve seen recognize that lowering car usage makes it easier for when you do need to drive (for accessibility or moving or whatever, not so much for fun)
I’ve had people on fuckcars argue that delivery trucks shouldn’t exist at all, that it should just be handled by a fleet of people on cargo bicycles. I can’t understand how people don’t understand the scale of the economy and the distances and weight of deliveries.
Delivering a couch from a warehouse in NJ to an apartment in Queens via bike sounds challenging.
I’m glad most food delivery here is by bike and not car, though.
End small-dick hatred. Body shaming isn’t okay no matter what.
For every lifted coal roller, their is a small-dicked, eco conscious bicyclist.
Don’t forget impotent. Those bike seats are not good for sexual performance.
Why would you have sex with a bike seat?
The challenge?
I choose to believe that men with small dicks don’t inheritently need to over compensate. It’s possible that they are considerate and able to satisfy their partners. And it’s equally possible that men with larger penises are selfish lovers, and feel insecure, needing fast/loud cars.
Tone Policing peoples anger, in a community specifically made for them to express their rage seems like a lame thing to do.
Good on you to call out body shaming when you see it.
Body shaming is still far too accepted and pervasive in our society and it should be called out every time we encounter it.
Thank you for this post. Keep fighting the good fight.
Finally, don’t act like cars can’t be fun. I’m all for phasing out the automobile and revolutionizing transport by returning to the ways of olde, but cars are fun. I understand some of you are grandparents and don’t like someone revving their straight pipes mustang down your block on a Saturday morning. That’s completely reasonable. But my god does this community act like you can’t have fun in a car. I absolutely enjoy loud and fast and powerful cars, because that’s an incredible work of engineering and it simply can be fun. Going fast can be fun. Being in a car that purrs like a lion can be fun. Going offroading or drifting or racing or anything in a car can be fun.
You know where this got us, don’t you ?
When cars were first used on public roads, people had to walk in front of them waving a flag, to war people of the danger.
Every day since then, we have ceded more of the public realm, more of our heath, our safety and have put the very future of the planet at risk with idolatry of the combustion engine
This sub is a tiny pocket of resistance. A safe space for people who now now reject how society has been built around the car.
And here you are, telling us how we should act.
I think it would be best if you took you happy little “engine go vroom” stories and fucked off. And when you get there, fuck off a bit more and don’t come back.
Agree with the body shaming, plenty of shit drivers across the spectrum. Don’t care so much about cars being fun as a means to justify their prevalence. But to acknowledge the counter argument of the culture we seek to criticize does have its merits in effective debate.
That argument wasn’t to justify their prevalence, but moreso that refusing to acknowledge it won’t get us anywhere. See edit for more info
I think it’s more of a “small dick energy” thing than actually body shaming people. It’s a figure of speech, meaning someone’s got something to prove or they’re compensating for something, or are scared to be perceived a certain way. Like the fear of people thinking you’re gay, effeminate, or weak. (Not that there’s anything wrong with any of these conditions.) And that you’re just seeking validation from your peers or society, when in fact you’re just considered annoying.
Yeah cars are fun. I own a car and I really enjoy driving it. It’s fun and reactive and fast and it makes me happy. But, like you, I’d rather BMW (bus, metro , walk) or bike to places because it’s less of a pain in the ass in a big city, contributes to reduce traffic, and my carbon footprint. And I get exercise to boot!
Which is why we stopped using “gay” as a pejorative a long time ago?
Yes. But some men fear being identified as gay due to their own sexual insecurities.
Ain’t nothing wrong with being gay though. Or to be considered gay. But some people are homophobes.
I think it’s more of a “small dick energy” thing than actually body shaming people.
Do you honestly not see the problem here? Read the sentence to yourself again slowly to make sure.
Thank you, hilarious statement.
“I think it’s more of a (insert racial slur here) thing than actually being racist”
But saying “small dick energy” only works as an insult because having a small dick is still seen by many people as something bad.
If nobody thought that having a small dick was an insult, then “small dick energy” wouldn’t be insulting either.
I totally get where you’re coming from. I love driving my EV but I know I should bike more for inner-city trips. It’s easy to admit just looking at the facts.
You may be vastly underestimating how many car enthusiasts would like there to be less traffic.
Avg commuter simping his wage mobile is hardly an “automotive enthusiast”
I absolutely enjoy loud and fast and powerful cars,
Cool! You won’t mind if I go spin up a diesel generator upwind of your house then, right?
I just really enjoy diesel generators and your opinion on my noise and air pollution shouldn’t weigh heavily on the scale of what I’m allowed to do. It’s only fair!
I’m sorry bro but if I have to listen to your fucking ICE going up and down my otherwise quiet street at all hours of the day then I am allowed to call you small dicked. If you are offended by this, I will assume it true.
Go to a fucking race track and leave the rest of us out of your dumb hobby.
Read the edit. I never advocated for public roads being used for cars. I acknowledge that the frustration against cars is reasonable. But if you simply can’t enjoy a fast and loud car in the appropriate setting, then that’s a you problem and not a me problem. You’re absolutely right that the appropriate setting is a track or out in the middle of nowhere, not residential or even commercial streets. But cars absolutely can be enjoyable in the right setting.
Pivot. If you’re serious about keeping it on the track or somewhere isolated, great, but let’s not pretend that’s what anybody is upset about.
You still have to get your car to and from the track and presumably you don’t live right next to your local track.
That is a very reasonable point. I don’t have a solution to that sadly.
