• Veraticus@lib.lgbt
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    1 year ago

    Why is it censorship? They can still talk anywhere that accepts them, including public property; that they can’t do it in my backyard isn’t censoring them.

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      The problem is you’re trying to redefine censorship to fit your narrative.

      censor

      verb

      censored; censoring ˈsen(t)-sə-riŋ ˈsen(t)s-riŋ

      transitive verb

      : to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable

      Suppressing speech, regardless of where or how, is censorship.

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        Interesting point. But are you willing to put your theory into practice?

        If you truly believe this, you must now end all your messages with:

        “veraticus@lib.lgbt said that free-speech maximalism is for fools but I disagreed because I am a fool.”

        If you don’t do this you are suppressing my speech and censoring me. And please don’t object on the grounds that the content is, perhaps, objectionable to some; remember, objectionable content is especially worthy of free speech protections.

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          I have no idea how you got this from what I said but no, that’s not how any of this works.

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            Stop censoring me. I know you might find the content objectionable, but my freedom of speech demands you include that phrase in all your posts from this moment on. You aren’t going to suppress speech you don’t like or agree with, are you?

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              Censorship doesn’t mean refusing to repeat other people’s speech. It means preventing others from speaking. Not sure what part of this you’re not getting. It is not a difficult concept.

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        It’s not a public forum, it’s a privately owned social media website/app…

        The owners can kick anyone out they want.

        Musk knew that, but apparently didn’t know why the old owners kicked them out, it’s because the vast majority of advertisers and users don’t want them their.

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            It’s not. Platforming speech is endorsing speech. I mean, there’s nuance to how it should be handled if someone says something you can’t endorse, but that sentence is rule 1 of owning social media platforms.

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        It’s no more public than a shopping mall. The mall and Twitter are owned by a corporation or private entity so they can kick you out for any reason. They own the space, not the government. A public space is somewhere typically owned by the government like the library, town hall, roadway, or park. A common misconception is that anywhere people can freely enter is a public space, that’s not really how it works. If you think I’m wrong, go wave a Nazi flag and cause a disturbance at a mall and see how fast they kick you out.

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        In what sense is it public? It’s owned by X and no one else.

        People want to think it’s a public forum because a lot of people use it. But that doesn’t actually make it public.