I don’t see how animals’ behavior is relevant, here. We have morality and can understand the effects of our actions on other sentient beings. Most animals don’t and can’t. That’s how we can have obligations other animals don’t have.
I’m not pro-factory farming. I’m talking about at the end of life. We’re going to make it quick.
I’m not going to link any videos, as I’m sure no one wants to see them. But there are no shortage of videos of animals in the wild being killed by some of the big cats who eat them ass first, while they’re still alive. I don’t know about you, but I’d rather be killed by a quick jolt of electricity or something slicing an artery, then to just sit there helpless and awake while something starts eating me from the ass up. I was hoping to not have to get graphic, but here we are.
Note, that those slaughterhouse are usually on smaller scales, than what is considered factory-farming. Slaughtering is just a small part of the suffering anyways and cruelty does not strictly depend on scale. Where I’m from, southern Germany, last time I looked, half of the milk farmers tether their cows, affecting a quarter of the cows in that region. Those are your neighbourhood family-owned farms.
The easiest way to not support any of that cruelty to animals, is to avoid animal based products.
Humans tend to kill animals much more humanely than any other animal
Debatable, based on my personal experiences. But even if we asume this is true, its not how we kill them but how we force them to live before killing them, thats immoral IMO
not all meat is factory farmed.
True, however, its estimated that 90% of all the meat we produce globally comes from factory farms.
If we eliminate factory farming, meat prices will go up, and as a result people will eat less of it. Of course at the same time there need to be better alternatives for people. It seems most places only have salads, and maybe pasta, as choices for meat free options. I don’t think replacing all the meat with fake meat is the best option.
Humans tend to kill animals much more humanely than any other animal out there in the food chain, and not all meat is factory farmed.
I don’t see how animals’ behavior is relevant, here. We have morality and can understand the effects of our actions on other sentient beings. Most animals don’t and can’t. That’s how we can have obligations other animals don’t have.
I’m not pro-factory farming. I’m talking about at the end of life. We’re going to make it quick.
I’m not going to link any videos, as I’m sure no one wants to see them. But there are no shortage of videos of animals in the wild being killed by some of the big cats who eat them ass first, while they’re still alive. I don’t know about you, but I’d rather be killed by a quick jolt of electricity or something slicing an artery, then to just sit there helpless and awake while something starts eating me from the ass up. I was hoping to not have to get graphic, but here we are.
There is no shortage of videos of how that quick jolt of electricity fails. Here are some examples: https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?t=979
Note, that those slaughterhouse are usually on smaller scales, than what is considered factory-farming. Slaughtering is just a small part of the suffering anyways and cruelty does not strictly depend on scale. Where I’m from, southern Germany, last time I looked, half of the milk farmers tether their cows, affecting a quarter of the cows in that region. Those are your neighbourhood family-owned farms.
The easiest way to not support any of that cruelty to animals, is to avoid animal based products.
I agree that animals usually kill in way worse ways than us. But that doesn’t really excuse our behavior.
Debatable, based on my personal experiences. But even if we asume this is true, its not how we kill them but how we force them to live before killing them, thats immoral IMO
True, however, its estimated that 90% of all the meat we produce globally comes from factory farms.
If we eliminate factory farming, meat prices will go up, and as a result people will eat less of it. Of course at the same time there need to be better alternatives for people. It seems most places only have salads, and maybe pasta, as choices for meat free options. I don’t think replacing all the meat with fake meat is the best option.