I think a lot of the left agree with you, and obviously the right hates her, probably more than Biden. I also feel like the far left has grown a lot lately, the fact that Bernie even won some states in primaries just shows how big the far left has become.
I know he initially promised to pick a woman, but I’m pretty sure he changed that to black women, saying he has like 4 to choose from. Either way it’s bad taste to make such an important decision openly based on race and gender.
So we agree that nobody wants Harris as president? And that voting for Biden is how we might just end up with her as president?
He may not die, but I think it’s reasonable to think he will be deemed unfit to serve, or even step down voluntarily.
I can really see this going either way if Biden stays with his decision to run. I know every year people complain about having two bad choices, but Biden V Trump round 2 has to be a record for the actual worst options possible.
I think the issues with both Biden and Trump are fairly obvious, but another issue is that if Biden does win, there is a fairly good chance we will end up with a president Harris, probably the one person people like less than Biden as a democratic president. I think she lost so much credibility when Biden promised he would pick a black woman as a VP, basically cementing the idea that part of her qualifications for the role of VP was based purely on gender and race.
Remember that we already said 10M was below the cutoff of the wealth tax, so they aren’t being taxed heavily. Furthermore, they should be able to live their whole life without investing it if they are already like 35.
I think you underestimate how fast $10M can be spent. There is a reason why most lottery winners go broke.
Whoa, so they can’t afford toys that should generally be banned for ecological reasons anyway? Again, if you can’t figure out how to live a happy life without a personal plane, you probably need to go to rich guy rehab. Just fucking find some cozy spot and live in idle luxury.
So basically you want them to just live like you do, without any extra luxuries? I’m guessing they also can only afford a modest house since even a normal house is $500k+ and then triple that if they have a mortgage.
I don’t think it’s a problem if people own a private plane as a hobby (you know, like a private pilot) or a big boat for enjoyment. I’m not talking about crazy expensive stuff here, even middle class people are owning private planes.
People don’t functionally own land, they nominally own it at the mercy of the state. Many things work this way. Your problem is that you can’t see beyond a narrow paradigm of how society is organized, as though a particular version of liberalism was ordained by God as being the natural order. It is not.
You and others here have explained your version of liberalism, I believe you call it Marxism, right? I don’t believe it’s the answer for anyone but communist countries like China, and I don’t think that’s the answer for the US or most other countries. Do you have another version you are proposing?
Turns out money laundering can actually be stopped and assets can and have actually been seized for various reasons.
We aren’t talking about money laundering or anything illegal, we are talking about people wanting to move for a better life. Only the worst of the worst countries will punish you by stealing everything from you simply for leaving.
but it objectively is a large amount of wealth for one person to have, enough to never work again.
If they drastically reduced their lifestyle, don’t get taxed heavily, and are able to invest it, then sure. However if you don’t allow them to invest and they don’t drastically reduce their standard of living, that’s not nearly enough to retire on.
Even a fairly modest personal plane or small yacht will cost a million or more over years of use.
but I don’t think I can teach you how to do philosophy coherently.
If your idea of philosophy involves theft, I don’t think I want to learn it from you.
That is to say, in this hypothetical, large-scale capital flight is illegal,
Ah, this concept is so insane that I just can’t imagine it ever happening. In reality the companies and rich would leave and there would be nothing you could do to stop it.
10M is nothing to someone who owns billions, it’s all a matter of perspective. I have a problem with people who use or suggest immoral actions, and that includes you. Stealing from anyone is immoral, I don’t care how much they have or how big of a company it is.
What is against the law here? It’s not illegal to move your business outside the country, it’s not illegal to leave the country, what you are assuming is illegal is actually perfectly legal. It’s not smuggling if you are just moving legal goods. Even you can leave a country like the US and transfer your money to wherever you go, it’s not illegal at all.
Yes, I am. It’s as easy as “don’t engage in capital flight” to not get hit by it. We can even be generous enough to leave them just a tiny bit, say 1% if they have exactly 1B, since 10M is quite a lot for a human.
You are suggesting the most immoral thing I’ve heard yet. To just take everything from someone and leave them with nothing just because they want to leave the area that is hostile to them. Oh wait, nevermind, this sounds exactly like someone as communist would say, and something communist countries have done in the past.
It will under the ideas you and others here have.
You are welcome to prove me wrong instead of making baseless accusations. I’m sorry the truth doesn’t fit into your narrative.
Even a progressive tax is going to fuck over retirees, unless you are suggesting 0% below like $10M. Even then they are still paying taxes either when they put the money in or when they take it out, so taxing on the value is just double tax dipping.
So you are actually suggesting if billionaires want to move we steal everything from them? How is that even remotely ok?
Or maybe it’s because we are big companies to exist without taxing or regulating them out of business.
It would be worthless if half the ideas in this thread were enacted. Luckily they won’t be and tons of middle class people will be able to retire thanks to the stock market.
Believe what you want to believe, I don’t really care.
They do actually, the problem is that when people talk about their tax rate they compare it to wealth, not income, and that isn’t how income tax works.
And what are those right circumstances? What would stop me playing video games and relaxing all day?
What does that social contact say, that you must give you everything if you are too successful?
And yes, I have never heard of Ayn Rand, no idea who they are or what they do. I only know now that she is a writer who died before I was born because I just googled it.
Retirement is based on stocks, it’s how it is and has been for pensions and 401k plans since forever.
Our medical care isn’t limitless, there is only so much we can actually do. Look at how Biden has been progressing even with the best care in the world, he clearly isn’t in the best shape and it’s only going to get worse. It’s entirely possible he gets worse fast and for there to be nothing that can be done about it even with the best care we can give him.