Justice Dept. seeks longest sentence in Capitol siege by far for leaders Henry “Enrique” Tarrio and Joe Biggs, convicted of seditious conspiracy
seems longest sentence in Capital siege
byso farThere’s still time for Trump to have the longest, most beautiful, sentence ever!
Everyone is saying it!
People using his way of speech to make fun of him may never get old. I always have at least a little giggle as I can hear him saying it.
Likelihood of a total of ten years if high. That is enough to make him forgettable.
Oh, history won’t forget him.
Who?
It might depend on how you measure long or short sentences.
Ya know, time vs distance.
Sounds like he’d be getting off lightly. We used to hang traitors.
The U.S. military did, but the United States Government has not. They even let the ultimate traitor Jefferson Davis go. Fact is that the government is fine making impossible for traitors to work in any form of government.
Good point. Today I learned something.
They really were all pardoned.
They pardoned former Slave Masters and Slave Master sympathizers, but not Abolitionists.
Why would abolitionists need to be pardoned for fighting in the Civil War?
You missed my other comment with a link.
They tried John Brown, an Abolitionist, for treason, found him guilty, and hung him.
They being the State of Virginia, not the United States.
John Brown, who literally attacked a United States Armory?
Yeah man, that’s treason. John Brown did the moral thing that just happened to put him at risk of being charged for treason. Guarantee you he knew this before he did it.
Founding Fathers all committed treason as well. Treason isn’t inherently wrong, it’s just illegal.
So?
Brown was charged with murder, insurrection, and treason against the state of Virginia, not the United States.
That’s a fair point.
I don’t think the US would have done any differently if he were tried federally though.
He was part of a militia. Close enough.
In my state, claiming to be in a militia without authorization from the governor or federal law is a felony. We don’t have militias.
Legally, treason has a very specific definition. He is treasonous filth but didnt technically commit the legal definition of treason.
You really, really do not want the government to be able to unilaterally dictate what treason is.
Legally, treason has a very specific definition. Colloquially, he’s a fucking traitor and there’s nothing that can happen to him that’s so awful he doesn’t deserve it.
Agreed. If he goes to prison I plan on starting a non-profit dedicated to mailing him submitted pics of people just standing outside doing whatever they want
Isn’t treason only in times of war? I think that’s why they are being accused of sedition instead. I suppose that’s kind of a minor point regardless since I think the only major difference between treason and sedition is the wartime distinction.
I suppose that’s kind of a minor point
I wouldn’t call the death penalty or anything that might introduce it a minor point. But I get what you’re saying and I’m being pedantic.
Seems very tied to war, but not exclusively. I’m not a lawyer, so don’t come to me if you do commit treason for some reason.
Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
Exactly use to be death sentence to be a traitor. Watch Trump get house arrest.
Outside of the military the United States Government rarely did more than just lock up traitors.
Notable exception of the Rosenbergs, for whom new info has come out over the last few rounds of declassification.
Julius was almost definitely guilty, but Ethel very likely had no idea. The government went ahead and convicted and killed her anyway to protect the methods and sources of how they caught Julius.
Fun fact, that trial was prosecuted by Roy Cohen, long time mentor to Donald Trump. But when Roy went into the hospital to die from complications with AIDS, Trump abandoned him without a second glance.
They were spies, that gave the Soviets a lot of nuclear weapon data, which goes beyond just treason.
Trump was Commander in Chief of the military.
Firing squad still an option for him.
I don’t think the UCMJ applies to the President, given that it’s a civilian office.
Lol, he’s not going to be convicted for treason. I guarantee that his lawyers will successfully argue mental incompetency, which isn’t even close to a lie.
May all traitors die in prison.
I don’t understand the story with this guy. Apparently he was arrested on January 4th, and had been an FBI informant for years: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-proudboys-leader-idUSKBN29W1PE
How is he now getting a 33 year long sentence if we was an informant?
Between 2012 and 2014 Tarrio was an informant to both federal and local law enforcement; in a 2014 federal court hearing, Tarrio’s lawyer said that Tarrio had been a “prolific” cooperator who had assisted the government in the investigation and prosecution of more than twelve people in cases involving anabolic steroids, gambling, and human smuggling; had helped identify three “grow houses” where marijuana was cultivated; and had repeatedly worked undercover to aid in investigations
Doesn’t seem like enough cooperation, recently enough, with enough significance to offer any insulation for insurrection 8 years later.
Jails and prisons are filled with snitches. He was petty snitch for a period of time. He’s not some indispensable asset.
Yeah I guess so. But the fact that the police arrested him 2 days before the insurrection, ostensibly to prevent the insurrection itself, and then it happened anyway and everyone seemed super unprepared for it, idk the whole thing seems a bit weird. It’s possible that he’s just outlived his usefulness, but I wonder what was said in those 2 days after his arrest but before the 6th.
I’m going to assume arrested by FBI.
After the election Trump changed the guy (secretary of defence?) in charge of the National Guard and making those decisions for security in DC. I guarantee it was so nothing was done for Jan 6.
Well there’s this damming document written and circulated by them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776_Returns
Flores sent the document to Tarrio a week before the January 6 attacks.
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There is no evidence Tarrio has cooperated with authorities since then. In interviews with Reuters, however, he said that before rallies in various cities, he would let police departments know of the Proud Boys’ plans. It is unclear if this was actually the case. He said he stopped this coordination after December 12 because the D.C. police had cracked down on the group.
He was probably telling the cops their plans because the cops were in on everything and helping the Proud Boys out.
I believe there is evidence that the Proud Boys were in contact with police in Portland, with some cops giving them a heads up to avoid crackdowns. This is hearsay (from me) because I got this info from a podcast and haven’t verified it, but I suspect it’s true. Lots of QAnon and other far-right iconography on police uniforms has been photographed.
