Justice Dept. seeks longest sentence in Capitol siege by far for leaders Henry “Enrique” Tarrio and Joe Biggs, convicted of seditious conspiracy

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      The U.S. military did, but the United States Government has not. They even let the ultimate traitor Jefferson Davis go. Fact is that the government is fine making impossible for traitors to work in any form of government.

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      Legally, treason has a very specific definition. He is treasonous filth but didnt technically commit the legal definition of treason.

      You really, really do not want the government to be able to unilaterally dictate what treason is.

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        Legally, treason has a very specific definition. Colloquially, he’s a fucking traitor and there’s nothing that can happen to him that’s so awful he doesn’t deserve it.

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          Agreed. If he goes to prison I plan on starting a non-profit dedicated to mailing him submitted pics of people just standing outside doing whatever they want

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        Isn’t treason only in times of war? I think that’s why they are being accused of sedition instead. I suppose that’s kind of a minor point regardless since I think the only major difference between treason and sedition is the wartime distinction.

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          I suppose that’s kind of a minor point

          I wouldn’t call the death penalty or anything that might introduce it a minor point. But I get what you’re saying and I’m being pedantic.

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          Seems very tied to war, but not exclusively. I’m not a lawyer, so don’t come to me if you do commit treason for some reason.

          Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

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          Notable exception of the Rosenbergs, for whom new info has come out over the last few rounds of declassification.

          Julius was almost definitely guilty, but Ethel very likely had no idea. The government went ahead and convicted and killed her anyway to protect the methods and sources of how they caught Julius.

          Fun fact, that trial was prosecuted by Roy Cohen, long time mentor to Donald Trump. But when Roy went into the hospital to die from complications with AIDS, Trump abandoned him without a second glance.

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        Lol, he’s not going to be convicted for treason. I guarantee that his lawyers will successfully argue mental incompetency, which isn’t even close to a lie.