at this point, with twitter being inaccessible to non logged in user, the ‘public square’ thing is totally done,. Get off twitter now. There are alternatives.
The way I use Twitter, I follow ~40 specific people. Half of them created accounts other places when Elon first started fucking around but they don’t use any of them so if I want to keep following these people I’m stuck (and I do).
true. I know a lot of people are in similar situations, that’s what kept me on facebook for years. I’ll just say at this point, twitter could just die any day now, starting DMing people if you haven’t already and find another way to say in touch.
People demanding others to leave Twitter often seem to forget that not everyone has the same experience on that platform. If one wants to argue that I should leave to make some sort of a statement then fair enough, but to claim I should leave because it has now become something it wasn’t before doesn’t at all resonate with my personal experience. Besides the obvious UI changes I haven’t noticed anything else to be different. No one is forcing right wing/conspiracy propaganda down my throat there. My highly curated feed has the same content it always has and when I see something I’m not interested about I block it and it’s gone. Lemmy is way better alternative for Reddit than Mastodon is for Twitter.
Doesn’t that go against net neutrality?
Is Twitter an ISP?
Twitter is website that contains “links to” the other 5 websites. Those “links to other sites” are really links to Twitter scripts that do database queries before finally linking to the other sites for real. It is easy for elmo to insert delays in the process.
Yes.
It provides a service on the internet.
That’s not what ‘ISP’ means.
I know.
I still think it’s unethical.
Net neutrality is about Internet itself. Twitter/X is a service build on top of the Internet, so no.
It is for example when your Internet provider Gomes you 100Mb/s, but only when accessing these particular sites, otherwise it’s 1Mb/s. It has nothing to do with data caps or overall speed limit, as some suggest, or with speed on the other end.
They repealed that anyways.
Not in Canada.
Did we ever have it in the first place? :>
Yes, actually. In Québec, Videotron offered a mobile data plan that included unlimited data exclusively for the Google Music service. The CRTC told them that this was illegal and it broke net neutrality laws.
I think I recall reading now that they had implemented it here. The whole “what happens there, happens here” dynamic made me cancel it out when they cancelled it down there I guess.
I cannot believe that there are companies and non-wingnuts who are still actively using that site at this point. Like maybe at the start it was ha-ha funny watching him flail about with code printouts and unplugging random microservices leading to outages, but I feel like the moment he started actively funneling money to alt-right knuckleheads and human traffickers should have been enough of a kick in the pants for even folks heavily reliant on the platform to make their exit.
The problem is that there isn’t a great replacement for it now. The same with reddit. I’m on here and I’m on Bluesky. The main uses I have for both Reddit and Twitter/X is sports news and discourse. Reddit for the discourse and Twitter for the news. There aren’t the communities here to have that. I want to talk Orioles baseball but the Orioles community here literally has zero comments other than bot comments updating scoring updates/pitching changes during the game threads. I’m trying to do my part and comment/post stuff to them but without any actual responses or conversation it feels like yelling into the wind.
Yea a lot of the niche communities haven’t and probably won’t migrate to these smaller sites like Lemmy and Mastodon. Don’t know how to solve the issue either.
In this case, the Orioles would have to announce they have an official mastodon to get most fans to move to it.
Personally I’ve just stopped using the internet for checking on my niche hobbies. A good number of Reddit clones have been trying to populate communities with bots to just post links but without any discourse, it’s the same effect as just googling “topic” and filtering for links from this week. I’m sure it will get better with time. Maybe
Yep. There are only so many people willing to take the leap for ideological reasons. I bailed from Twitter the day Apartheid Boy reinstated Donald Trump (but laughed when Donald decided to start his own dollar-store Twitter instead). Most people aren’t willing to go that far.
I’m tired of being manipulated & jerked around by shitfucks like Apartheid Boy, so I came here for ideological reasons, specifically, because I think it’s time to bring democracy to social media, and the distributed Fediverse model is the way to do that. Those playing ball with the Zucks and Musks and Spezs, should know they’re playing footsie with wannabe dictators, so don’t be surprised when they get shit dictated at them.
That’s the power of critical mass. Person 1 won’t leave because they have too many followers and follows Persons 2, 3 and 4, who also have too many followers and only follow person 5 and 6 there, who…
The decline is gradual, but will hardly be complete. Facebook isn’t as used as some years ago, but it’s still absurdly big. Xitter is likely to lose some relevancy, but there’s not much that can be done to truly “kill” it. One way to speed that up is if space karen x decides to block all porn.
I’m really shocked that anyone would be surprised.
So many people that used to be really amazing creators ended up down the Twitter rabbit hole. At first their content suffered, and then dried up completely. And now all you ever hear from them is about whatever Twitter tells them to hate this week.
Hating Twitter is just the latest thing to hate on Twitter. And all these people are going to keep on going to get their hit during the 2 minutes of hate, and then a bunch of them will run off and write articles about how much they hate Twitter based on all the stuff that they read on Twitter.
Porn is the only reason to use it now
Must be heaven for real hackers, bet everything is deteriorating at the speed of time …
Isn’t… isn’t everything happening at the speed of time?
Eh, it’s relative.
Stop enabling his childish tactics by continuing to treat his platform as some kind of essential tool for communication. It simply isn’t.
This is the correct and only take. Stop using these shit services.
It was - and it’s not that the need has gone away or been fulfilled elsewhere, it’s just that it’s no longer viable.
I think paying close attention to this is important though. It’s a case study that just keeps giving - every couple weeks we get an important reminder that billionaires and billion dollar companies aren’t a good thing - their interests are not aligned with ours
It’s Elon Musk. So it’s not surprising.
There are those of us who were on the Internet before the capital showed up, and all of us said that it was a bad idea to use these corporate silos, that there were implications that were not great to handing what we knew would one day be the public square over to private interests. We were not listened to, of course, and for the thirty years that the government kept the house of cards propped up with zero interest they created a real illusion that it might actually work.
But maybe I have to reassess Elon. I have heretofore considered him something of a bad man, a Senator Palpatine with his “saving the world through capitalism” schtick, but with an Emperor lurking in his twisted mind. And here we have that very Emperor, taking off the mask. But perhaps… perhaps… perhaps Musk is actually Vader. Perhaps in revealing, to all with eyes to see, the very problems we Libre’d zealots have been crying out in the wilderness about, perhaps he is the one who will restore balance to the Internet.
Nah he’s just an apartheid rich boy who talked a good line while he could keep pulling free money out of the bag, but now that he has to put money back in the bag he’s taking whatever work he can get.
How has no one just punched him in his stupid face yet?
Zuckerberg is trying to schedule face punches but he keeps making excuses.
He can get hit too. They’re the same.
I’ve had an idea for a song for a while that starts off: “have you ever noticed how no one has assassinated Elon Musk?”
Say the line Bart!
Free speech absolutist
I don’t give a xit about Xitter.
The most immature billionaire. Scary.
Wait, I was told net neutrality wasn’t needed.
Thank you for saying twitter
This should surprise no one at this point.
They’re going to have a hard time throttling the Fediverse.
Why? It’s easy to get a list of federated servers, in JSON no less. In an afternoon I could build a tool to block them as they come, testing included
You’re still playing whack-a-mole.
Is it really whack a mole if within minutes of federating, a simple automated tool could add them to the list with no human involvement?
I wouldn’t say so, at that point it’s a trivial technical challenge
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