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Can we just pretend that Twitter no longer exists?
All that Elon Musk still tries here is how far he has to go until Twitter finally collapses.
Also, can we stop polluting the tech comms with this crap? Why are people posting this stuff here again? We were perfectly fine for awhile with no musk Twitter shit posts.
Just block it. Wait, no, that “feature” makes no sense.
Non-shitpost: I know everyone is annoyed by now, but Ex-Twitter is a huge website and relevant?
Relevant to what?
This conversation has had is back and forth far too many times. Twitter spam is not relevant to technology news. Him not blocking people has no barring on any form of new tech. It belongs in the !nomoremuskspam@lemmy.world comms, that’s why that was created.
It became a platform in which the whole world communicated about anything and everything. Maybe it still is to an extent, but knocking down the world’s platform plank by plank isn’t an absurd thing to write about
I absolutely agree.
That doesn’t mean its had anything to do with technology. A business comm or the above mentioned spam community would be a better fit.But like I said earlier that has been discussed a million times already. I’m not discussing it anymore.
The Fediverse is already fractured and niche, are you saying that someone should fine the perfect 36 user community, that only those subscribers are knowledgeable about, to post this to? Or perhaps news about the global platform might be relevant in the largest technology community?
2 years ago Twitter was where news broke, now it is where we get to watch a billionaire go broke in real time.
If it bothers you so much, block all mentions of the platform, person, etc.
You’re right. Why bother having separate communities for different subjects and interests? That’s just stupid. How silly of us.
I think you meant !enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world, right?
I agree with you. Personally I like seeing the meltdown without having to actually visit the site. Same reason I appreciate seeing how Reddit has gone full Digg4.0 but haven’t visited the site since the 3rd Party Apps died.
This is/has a significant impact on technology and media.
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It isn’t relevant to the billions of people who don’t use Twitter. At this point it’s just celebrity schadenfreude.
Not to be an idiot - but where should people post this stuff? I mean, I do find it interesting occasionally, and like to see what other’s think, not so much complaining that it was posted at all.
Twitter is a tech company like it or not.
Social media, isn’t it? That’s not really tech or everything on the internet is tech.
Twitter is kind of turning into the opposite of a tech company, none of their choices are based on technology
The Comnect android app has a keyeord filter. Would seem easy enough to just put ‘musk’ inthere and unless you have an interest in muskies, muskrats, or some men’s cologne lines it would filter things pretty cleanly.
Nah. I’d rather people posted relevant posts in comms.
But I didn’t know about the keyword filter, that is cool to have available. Thanks!
It strikes me as wierd that you’d rather everyone else use the community the way you want it instead of just using a filter that makes it what you want it to be. Some people want to keep up with these things without following communities desicated to musk and they don’t have to agree to use this conmunity exactly the way you want it to be used.
It’s gotten to the point where I’ve even blocked the communities that are supposed to be making light of the fact that there’s too much musk spam… because I’m tired of all the musk spam…
Hrs irrelevant and nobody can change my mind. He can fuck right off idc.
YES PLEASE. I fucking swear it genuinely feels like about 15% of the posts here are about Elon.
People need to ignore this prick and move on with their lives
Twitter. stopped existing a long time ago, when it was bought out and gutted. It’s the gathering place of fascists now.
Not for as long as it’s relevant to hundreds of millions of people.
But I would agree that “Elon says he’s going to do it” is not much of news until it actually happens.
I’m ok with drawing attention to this stuff. Every time more Twitter shit hits the news, Fediverse apps get another boost of users.
I down vote any post on here that mentions X, Twitter, or Elon, usually without even reading them. I made an exception to post this reply, but did down vote the OP.
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Literally every single day we have idiots doing Musk’s PR work for free.
Downvote Musk spam. The billionaire doesn’t need your help making sure his businesses stay in the 24 hour news cycle.
What in the actual fuck does he think is going to happen
I have him blocked. It’s my fault. He noticed and now he is going to axe the whole feature
I could actually seeing that being the reason he’s doing this. Nothing a narcissist hates more than people ignoring them.
This is PRECISELY the reason. He fired a lead engineer who told him they can’t control how many people engage with his tweets. So he made it so that EVERYONE gets to see his tweets in their feed. Queue mass blocking of him and now he’s upset.
Lol oh my god, I think you’re 100% on the ball with that hypothesis. I honestly can’t think of a better explanation, and it absolutely fits with his narcissistic neuroses.
I mean… I’m willing to fight this fight if he wants to play it that way. I’d be more than happy to make a lot more heinous troll accounts to spam him with, and I’m willing to bet that a lot of other people feel the same way.
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I bet a ton of users blocked him that day he messed with the algorithm so much he was boosted into feeds that didn’t even follow him.
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Damn it, uwe. This is why we can’t have nice things.
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Probably gets hourly updates on followers, blockers, views etc.
He’s going to be able to harass everyone that had blocked him.
I bet he will still be able to block users without them knowing too
When you can pay to win, to always have the last word… He’ll let them know.
Next, deleting your account gets axed. Feature makes no sense.
That would be a “Getting nuked from orbit by EU” speedrun.
Immediately causing a shit storm from at least the EU, the UK, and California.
He wants shitbag, astroturf, conservative, fascist “personalities” to be able to respond to and every prominent non-fascist post where they can be promoted to the top of the replies.
As a bonus, it will also help the astroturfing oil companies better kill environmental efforts.
Maybe he wants to get rid off the somewhat smart people on Twitter so the rest can be easily radicalized with the intend that they vote against their interest and for the interests of rich people?
I’d say it’s either that or he wants greater reach to feed his narcism.
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So… Wait.
This means someone can just @ someone else and destroy their feed with hate or dick pics or whatever?!
“it makes no sense” literally every social media site in existence has the block feature, and the reason is to help people prevent harassment. Elon is like a fucking toddler, it’s obvious he just wants to get rid of blocking because he’s pissy about being blocked by other people.
The block “feature” is a required tool for being listed on the Google and Apple stores, among others.
Removing it will get Twitter delisted from them as well.
That’d be nice if it actually applied, but Apple has already made exceptions for X among other large companies to allow them to play by different rules in the store. So I’m not holding my breath for any sort of punishment.
Examples:
- X got a one letter App Store name that was previously against the rules (other devs need their app name to be at least 2 characters) (more info)
- YouTube had been blocking iOS PiP background playback (not sure if they still do) and put that feature behind the YouTube Premium subscription. Background playback and PiP is part of iOS’s system capabilities and the rule specifically says it’s not allowed. See Apple’s guidelines section 3.2.2 (ii) here. With this, one could make the argument that PiP would only support system supported video decoding, and YouTube uses DASH for higher resolution videos, but YouTube does offer video and audio streams that are natively supported by Apple as well so I don’t hold much support for this argument.
“Background playback” is behind the premium paywall; NOBODY gets YouTube PIP support on iOS; such a shame.
I repeat, even if you pay for premium you simply can’t do PIP using the official app. You can however use a browser and use PIP that way I think (there used to be some weird workaround but I’m not sure if it still exists).
Edit: I was (happily) wrong! I see now, they added it halfway though 2022 and I needed to go into settings and explicitly enable it. I’m a happy camper now! Thanks for the correction
Premium absolutely does give you PIP on iOS. I took this screenshot just now 😊
Fascinating… because I’ve been trying to get this to work for like years… literal years. I’m very happy to be wrong about this.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DO THAT?
If you don’t want to pay for premium, I recommend (and use) uYou+ as a sideloaded app. It has PiP capabilities w/o needing premium, along with a built-in video downloader, sponsorblock, and adblock.
Assuming it works the same way as on android you just start playing a video then switch out of the YouTube app without stopping playback. In fact I just read the Google help page “Using picture-in-picture on your mobile device” and it says exactly that for any mobile device and only goes into iPhone Vs android specific details when it comes to ensuring you’ve not turned off any default on settings that are required for it to work.
I see now, they added it halfway though 2022 and I needed to go into settings and explicitly enable it. I’m a happy camper now!
Thank you for the correction.
I don’t even have premium? I’m on iOS, I can’t keep up with what’s being criticized as real or not.
Seems that you don’t even need Premium!
Sounds like Apple may have forced their hand behind the scenes.
https://9to5google.com/2022/07/11/youtube-pip-iphone-ipad/
My initial experience is that it was missing, then tested, then removed again.
Since you don’t have premium and can still use the feature on iOS, that means they were forced to make it available in general to iOS users. It was off by default for me though, so maybe they made it work but just didn’t turn it on by default?
Someone else above was saying that Apple has rules about this, and another poster was saying that on Android you need premium for PIP. So maybe iOS did without it for years and then they were forced to add it for all iOS users regardless of the premium sub.
I will say it doesn’t work predictable with all my apps brought back into view. WefWef is one of the few where it does it every time.
Anyone else realize he uses the music from Dustforce? It’s very nostalgic because I played it a lot in college.
I don’t have premium and I get PiP on everything but music.
Even then, sometimes live shows will work or lesser known musicians.
You don’t even get PiP on Android without premium.
There’s a Firefox addon and 50 different apps doing that.
Thought people were talking about the native app not watching via the browser.
But, yes, Firefox Mobile Android master race. Can confirm it’s so superior!
I still find the Firefox performance on Android to be a bit lackluster. Still use it for ideological reasons. They are making strides though.
Yes you do. S20 Ultra, No Premium, I can PiP.
Not on googles phones, pixels have a single good feature, call screening, if that wasn’t so necessary for my mental health these days i’d go back to samsung in a heartbeat.
You can still play youtube through a browser like firefox and get working pip without paying for premium but if you want to use the official app its locked behind a paywall.
Pixels also have the live captioning built into its sound ecosystem. Not sure if it got translated to other brand images though.
Just stop using Twitter. It’s easy.
I feel sympathy for the people who are required to use it for work. Most users could quit it and replace it with Mastodon, though.
I tried deleting my twitter just now.
The website is abysmally slow. I genuinely think they are throttling their deactivate account page to try stop users from leaving en masse.
That or else the site is not functioning correctly after Musk’s optimizations’
Honestly, this is a pretty clear case where federation should win out. I answered someone above, but governments using a private service like twitter for actual public announcements imo is broken. I hope that Mastodon and federated services take off and turn into a turnkey style service somewhere. Like, setting up your own Mastodon (or Lemmy!) instance I hope turns into something just about as easy as setting up an email account.
With Twitter’s dwindling user base and each, people should just jump ship and migrate to mastodon. It’s honestly what Twitter used to be and better than everything Twitter is now nor what musk has turned Twitter into.
What’s Twitter?
Sorry, we meant X
I liked that song.
you could also say, just block it
It would be a godsend if there was a way to block certain results from search engines. I do not want to have want to have any more Twitter links or reddit links propagating my results. I don’t even care if I miss out on some vital piece of information to my query. I just don’t want those sites in my search results.
You can. I’m not by my desktop but I’m sure I use ublacklist in Firefox.
Have you heard of a DNS sinkhole?
I’ve legit never understood it’s appeal. Like what even is the purpose of it?
I wasn’t a heavy poster on Twitter, but I was a heavy user. Unlike the Lemmy/Reddit model, it’s much more real time. So when I wanted to see how things were going with a piece of news of any sort, basically, twitter was better at that.
Its also much more person centered - you curate specifically a list of who you want to follow rather than just topics, so there could often be crossover. Usually for me, this meant I’d listen to some podcast or something for a while, figure out I like the host and their personality or often just taste, and then follow them. The added benefit being that most people I’d follow on twitter weren’t so big that if you tweet at them and you’re not an asshole, you’ll get a response.
I mean it’s literally in the terms and conditions of both the App Store and Play Store for social media to have a block button lol
Elon complaining about some conspirancy on why their app got taken down for not complying.
This is incredibly consistent with the “free speech” crowd thinking free speech entitles you to an audience.
Unreal. It’s not even incompetence, he really is just tanking the site on purpose.
No he’s not.
He’s a right wing grifter and always has been. And like many on the right, he views harassment as a form of “free speech” which should be acceptable.
He’s not tanking the site on purpose. He’s tanking it because his bullshit ideology naturally results in creating a hostile environment that people don’t want to be a part of.
im pretty sure he’s just reacting to the chrome extension
Generous of you to assume it’s not a reaction to ShinigamiEyes
I don’t think so, largely because of how big his ego is. I don’t think he’d willingly become a laughingstock.
Lemmy mods removed talking about piracy. It’s not that weird.
LW admins removed a community focused on piracy because they were afraid of getting sued. Even if they’d win ultimately, legal representation is expensive. If you want to see it here though, I’m sure you could work out a binding contract of some kind where you agree to take on all expenses and legal fees for any piracy related litigation.
Or just run a pirate instance yourself!
It’s no risk or hassle, right?
The block feature is not there out of the goodness of their CEO’s heart.
It is there to limit liability from harassment. After all, why police harassment laws at your expense. When you can get the end user to enforce it for you.
It’s just Dumb evil.
This is so dumb, what is he thinking? What’s the angle?
Dumbness aside, Twitter is only usable if you block all of the blue check spammers who add nothing to any discussion.
Maybe he’s doing it so you can’t block blue checks? But it still doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
I half wonder if he is running an experiment to see how much his users are willing to put up with so that all the other tech companies can figure out how far they can push us.
It’s been non-stop advanced bullshit after bullshit coming out of basically all corpos for the past year, but things were always headed in this direction. Muskrat just helped speed things along. The silver lining in all of this is the Fediverse and other platforms are finally popping off. Hopefully that trend gains more momentum and big tech dies before we end up further into a future we don’t want to be in.
I think it’s that and ads. Easier to sell promotional stuff when the whole user base is simply incapable of hiding your shill posts.
This but his goal is to find the line and step over it, not toe it. He didn’t like Twitter being a liberal leaning platform that pushed extreme conservatives out so he’s reversing that. The only nuance he’s using is to do it slowly enough that there’s still libs to pwn on his platform over the rather than having them all leave at once. Plus if he can chase them away rather than ban them, he can claim to be more about free speech. But this is all about suppressing opinions he doesn’t like, with an added bonus that he can ban people for not loving him.
in the next iteration he’ll make it so you can only block people who don’t have twitter blue
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This is pretty wise, I think. I do believe you have figured out the reason, or at least part of the reason. Driving up rage engagement!
People can’t block him anymore, no more hiding from his opinions
That’s what I was thinking. Either a specific person blocked him that he got upset about or the amount of people that have him blocked upset him. Either way it’s personal and he’s throwing a tantrum like a toddler. Again.
This is so dumb, what is he thinking? What’s the angle?
I’d guess that he wants to control what people see for one reason or another. I blocked a lot of communities here to make my feed more enjoyable.
Less work needed to maintain the system? He fired most engineers, those remaining can only do so much at one time.
What’s there to maintain, the feature is already there and should be relatively simple. I can’t imagine that Twitter backend is so bad that it requires active work on all components.
Lmao this is going to be incredible to watch unfold. I am assuming Elon himself has blocked an absolute fuckton of accounts that are just out to troll him, so either he’s gonna (rightly) get absolutely inundated by trolls, or he’s gonna make the devs disable it for everyone except him and whoever else he wants to give that feature to.
