Recently, many of our anti-Zionists posts have been downvoted to oblivion by liberals. As hexberians realized a while back, downvotes only help liberals since they are more numerous and they don’t need to engage in discourse. I am proposing to just get rid of downvotes and instead engage in discourse on content that we disagree on.

              • kristina [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                10 months ago

                I don’t care what you think, I care what’s better for the trans community so they don’t get harassed. You can get bent for all I care

                • davel [he/him]@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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                  10 months ago

                  Of all the people who are sure they are right about this issue for everyone in the fediverse, you are the surest.

                • diegeticscream[all]🔻@lemmygrad.ml
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                  10 months ago

                  “You can get bent for all I care”.

                  removing downvotes leads to a culture of viciously petty, shallow, dunks in lieu of downvotes.

                  “I don’t care what you think, I care what’s better for the trans community so they don’t get harassed.”

                  I was trying to politely lead to the conclusion that this isn’t your instance to advocate for change in.

                  You’re insinuating that I’ve advocated for harm to the trans community. I have not.

                  You haven’t shown that removing downvotes is useful for the topic at hand, which is federated downvotes.

                  I don’t want to repeat the culture of hexbear, but I’m very happy it’s there for the people who do.

                  • kristina [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                    10 months ago

                    You haven’t shown that removing downvotes is useful for the topic at hand, which is federated downvotes.

                    I’m really surprised you havent learned that there was a history of harassment of people on lemmy and that there were consistent stalkers of trans people constantly downvoting trans posts. This isnt an issue in safe spaces. It really doesnt matter what happens in the fediverse. What you are saying, though, is that you are happy with trans people being harassed on lemmygrad if you are not proposing a different system that counteracts it.

                  • raven [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                    10 months ago

                    Pre-federation we had a pretty sweet culture featuring a very high signal/noise ratio where people were generally taken in pretty good faith and lightly corrected for mild things, and atomized by orbital ion canon for moderate to very bad things for the 10 minutes or so before the user is banned. We’re still reeling after federation and our signal/noise ratio has honestly gone to shit.

                    That said you can take Kristina’s insight or leave it but she isn’t wrong.