• Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de
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    11 months ago

    Hamas is the governing body there, they all celebrated and danced around dead bodies on 10/7- those people should die.

    They’ve been given warning to evacuate. Why doesn’t Egypt let them in? Remember the lie that Israel bombed the crossing?

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      That doesn’t matter. If I tie you to a post, tell you to run away, and then when you are unable to run I say “well I warned you” and then shoot you - is that action suddenly not murder? Hamas has nothing to do with Israel murdering innocent Palestinians. Innocent Palestinians are not Hamas. They’re just civilians. They’re mothers, they’re the elderly, they’re children. They’re families.

      Warning to evacuate means nothing. Warning to evacuate is for natural disasters. That “warning” is just pretext to commit mass murder.

      “They all celebrated and danced around dead bodies on 10/7- those people should die.” Those people have nothing at all to do with Israel murdering innocent Palestinians every day. They’ve killed more Palestinian children since the 7th than all the Israelis killed on that day and since. Just the children. Where are your calls for the execution of the members of the IDF and the israeli state orchestrating the mass murder of children?

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        They don’t have to tell them to evacuate, hamas attacked and started a war, there’s a war, they’re not tied to a post.

        There is no conceivable way that there wouldn’t be a war after what Hamas did.

        And you can use the typical pal trope of what about what Israel did before… And the fact of the matter is if you want to trace this conflict to it’s genesis its that pals follow a fascist Islamic ideology which is opposed to any Jewish state.of any form and no Jewish presence anywhere in the land. They are fascist. They have launched war and terrorists attacks , have been defeated and restrained and their only recourse is to hide behind children and play the victim, yell slogans to affect weak minded people.

        The Jews have always been willing to live in peace, live with a Palestinian state, live with arabs in the state of Israel. The Muslims have openly opposed any peace with Jews. Jews are the natives of the land and the Muslims have said even if an area is completely abandoned, a swamp or a desert, that Jews cannot be there, they are ok with Muslims from any other part of the world being there, they are ok with no one there, but not Jews who are the natives of the land. They are fascist. Imagine caring about the ‘character of the land’ and seeking to exclude Jews… It is a mosque built on top of the Jewish temple, Islam is the occupier. You see the fascist Muslims fight like this against the Jews as well as many other people in many countries, you are reflexive and weak minded if you are sympathetic to them when they complain about losing the wars they start, hiding behind children for propagana

        Are you a woman lady autumn? Do you have any idea what it’s like to be a woman in a fascist islamic regime? That in Iran and Gaza they kill women who don’t wear their head scarfs, will kill them if they talk to a man, what do you think their marriages are like? They are misogynistic and it’s no wonder they have such an easy time recruiting terrorists

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          Children never deserve to be murdered. Ever. No matter by whom or for what reason. I don’t have any response to the rampant amount of Islamophobia in general displayed here. Not all Muslims are violent misogynists. Innocent civilians who have done no wrong should never be murdered under any circumstances.

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            Murder is deliberately targeting, it is a war crime, it is what Hamas did, it is what Nazis did.

            When terrorists hide behind civilians and civilians are killed inadvertently in the midst of a war it is called collateral damage, they are not intentionally targeted and it is not Anwar crime. Again hamas is the war criminal hiding behind them.

            In every war civilians die because of collateral damage, in WW2, the civil war, every war. The difference is hamas targets children and hides behind them, Israel takes steps to avoid civilian casualties

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              No, no, no. Throwing a fucking bomb randomly into a civilian neighborhood is not collateral damage. The civilians are the direct damage. Starving children and depriving them of water and healthcare is murder.

              You’re deliberately misrepresenting every single action taken by the IDF.

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                11 months ago

                No I’m not, the IDF targets hamas, maybe sometimes they miss. Hamas has been launching hundreds of rockets a day indiscriminately into Israel for years.

                The gazans should go into Egypt, Hamas is the government and controls where aid goes

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                    The reasons the causalities are higher for the pals is that they are not able to kill as many people as they would like and they hide behind civilians. IDF targets terrorists, Hamas hides behind civilians, Hamas targets civilians.

                    And the reason gaza is under blockade is because they have previously used all their resources for terrorism.

                    And if you go back you can see that the genesis of this conflict.is explicit - that these are Islamic fascist who against any non Muslim state of any dimensions and will fight it to the death. Jews are the natives of the land , for hundreds of years there were laws against Jews in Israel as well as every other Muslim country. When Jews immigrated in the 20th century they did not displace anyone and infact their development caused many migrants to move to the land. The intolerant Muslims were against any Jews in the land and they went to war over there existence and that when they were displaced. Imagine being so bigoted that you go to war against the natives of the land, who do you think built Jerusalem or Hebron or Nazareth ?

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                  The IDF is one of the most well armed and well funded militaries the United States owns in the entire world. They could hit a fucking toothpick in London with their missiles. They aim them at the brown people. That’s it. That’s where their “aiming” stops. They bomb any inch of Gaza. They’re killing children. Children. Actual literal children.

                  Hamas is a fucking terrorist organization. It’s the difference between a slingshot and an ICBM. Look at the death toll over the last 30 fucking years. It’s not even close.

                  Hamas doesn’t matter. NONE OF THIS MAKES KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE OKAY. IF I WENT OUT AND BLEW UP A NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY AND CLAIMED THERE WERE TRANSPHOBIC TERRORISTS THERE I WOULD BE INTERNATIONALLY CONDEMNED AND SENTENCED TO DEATH FOR MY CRIMES. ISRAEL DOES IT AND THE US ORDERS 5 BILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDING FOR THEM.

                  I’m not arguing with someone who thinks murdering children is fine cause they’re brown and they’re Muslim. Unironically fuck you. You are racist scum.

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                    11 months ago

                    Obviously you are a slogan yeller and it’s broken your brain.

                    The IDF targets militants, if they were targeting civilians they could kill millions. Everyone can see hamas specifically hides behind civilians

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      Even tho you ignore the fact that hamas was elected in 2004 and half the civilians currently alive in gaza are children who would of course not voted before they were born, how do you justify the explosion in settler terrorism in the west bank since gaza has been sieged? How do you justify the bombing of civilians in the west bank if theres no hamas there? Also if i gave you a warning to evacuate your home or die im sure you wouldnt leave so why should gazans?

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        Your premise that there is land which is reserved for arabs is false. If there is empty land Jews can live there. I don’t care for the idea that arabs live freely in Israel with equal rights while in the west bank, or Jordan, or Iraq Jews cannot live there, have equal rights and in fact would be killed.

        You have had 75 yrs against Israel legitimacy and Israel has to take steps for security. Israel is tiny. Why can’t Jordan, which is a part of Palestine give land to the Palestinians or the state of Israel? Why was the entire land of Jordan given to ‘the heshimite family’ who are not even native to the land ?

        It is clear to anyone clear thinking person that islamic outlook is fascist and has been at open war against Jews and non Muslims for decades and centuries. And that they have been defeated, are the losers, and now peddle this pathetic propaganda and it takes root because of weak minded people whose thoughts are based on childish slogans that are recited in unison, have you read 1984?

        This is why the media is so highly censored in these places, that they scream over any debate, they are violent fascists, relying on censorship and propaganda, using any means to advance their idiotic religious agenda.