This article is from November 17th, so a couple days old, but I found it worthwhile.
Should make him do his unpaid work in a children’s cancer ward
Like a slave, right?
Dickhead move and banworthy from the stadium? Ostracized from the community? Fair. But really? Arrest and sentenced? C’mon UK saying mean things shouldn’t get you locked in a cell. I guess I am just used to American free speech.
It’s just banter
What a fucking moron.
Basically torn his own world apart for literally no reason at all.
For anyone who can’t click on the link, in doing this utterly fucking stupid thing, he has:
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Been given a 5-year stadium ban.
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Had to pay a £154 victim surcharge.
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Had to pay £85 in prosecution costs.
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12-week suspended prison sentence (suspended for up to 18 months).
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Ordered to do 200 hours of unpaid work.
What a fucking moron.
It even says in the article that he’s had to move out of his parents’ home because of the backlash his actions caused, and apparently his relationship with his partner has been affected too.
Can’t believe someone would willingly do something like that anyway, such a stupid and unkind thing to do, and that’s even before you get to how fucking stupid it is to do these days anyway, especially when we live in a world where everything is recorded.
Also lost his job as a window fitter.
And the job after that, was thrown out of his parents’ home and had problems with his partner. According to this article, he seemed remorseful during the court proceedings and afterwards, so hopefully he learned a lesson, and many other onlookers.
suspended prison sentence for that? 200hrs of unpaid work? lol jesus, thats excessive
Reading through the list of consequences, the social consequences were probably a sufficient deterrent. Losing jobs and banned from football matches (the football association being distinct from the government).
Not a fan of governments getting involved in prosecuting speech. I think social sanctions and consequences are more appropriate, even for heinous speech like this.
The odd thing is, what are these social consequences? Getting abuse and threats to the point of moving home is also something that needs acting on, surely. Or are they just deciding who can and can’t have abuse aimed at them?
Justice imo. You don’t mock a child who lost a battle to cancer. No excuses for that. Fucker got what he deserved.
Hope he enjoys the 200 hours unpaid graft too.
It’s not justice though my dude, the punishment doesn’t fit the crime tbh.
Shouldn’t even been a crime for the authorities to prosecute. This was something that should of been settled between the team and him. Ban him from attendance. This is censorship whether we like the results or not.
The guy is 32, his parents are probably happy to have an excuse to make him move out.
I knew this guy reasonably well at school, although that is a long time ago now he was always a bit of an idiot but I was surprised by this because he should know better than most about how a the death of a child can affect family and friends.
When he was around 15-16 Dale lost his best friend in an awful traffic collision where he was hit by a coach while crossing the dual carriageway outside school. It was fucking awful, it had a huge impact on his friends and family including Dale. So I thought he of all people would know better.
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Don’t agree with getting a prison sentence for something like this. But the thick cunt should just try to not be an absolute pillock and none of this would’ve happened to him.
Disgusting behaviour.
he’s a massive cunt but that sentence is ridiculous.
literally can get the same sentence for burglary.
It’s disgusting that this is deemed a criminal offence. He’s a moron, but what he did shouldn’t have been against the law.
The only difference between the UK and China is the degree of surveillance and control, although with the ULEZ cameras and people getting arrested for standing on streets thinking wrong thoughts the UK is fighting valiantly to close the distance.
My dude, are you still trying to push this narrative that the UK is a police state?
Just take the L and move on.
To be criminally charged for this is absolutely insane. The fact everyone knows he’s a lowlife and his name is out there is enough.
Yeah for me the world has gone too soft. I don’t see a crime to be honest there worth going to court for. It was utterly stupid and disgusting what he did but I feel like going to court was too far for it.
Let the club ban him and the media report on it but it feels excessive as he’s already lost his job and any future employer will see what he’s done with any background check.
People should be allowed to make mistakes and learn from them, I’m sure he’s not a bad person at all just did a stupid thing and now will pay for the rest of his life.
He got a suspended sentence basically just saying don’t do it again
Not really, a suspended sentence still counts as a prison sentence in terms of his criminal record
I’m sure he’s not a bad person
Good people don’t tend to mock children who died from cancer, just saying.
Am I gonna cry for this moron? Not one tear.
Is this punishment reasonable? Fuck, I just don’t know man…
100% suspended sentence is correct. What he did is bad but he shouldn’t be taking up a cell in overflowing prisons.
Suspended essentially means no more public order offences so hopefully behaves
What I don’t know is does he have a criminal record now?
It seems every week I see the UK criminally charging people for disgusting and offensive chants, gestures etc.
They are disgusting acts but to criminally charge for this is insanity and a slippery slope to the Government deciding what you can and can’t say.
Slippery slope? These laws have existed for longer than both of us have been alive.
Why is insanity when it’s a breach of the Public Order Act 1986? This is nothing new. I’m not sure I understand how anyone is complaining.
We think we’re American.
Yeah, in a country constantly being americanised with its media, sport, etc. the biggest one is that everyone seems to think we have free speech laws like the USA all of a sudden
While I don’t feel like he should have been criminally charged, I don’t feel bad for him it’s a dickhead thing to do and I don’t even know how you could make a funny joke from that
The idea of him potentially doing jail time for this is a bit silly but I’m definitely not opposed to the unpaid work/community service part of the punishment.
I feel like community service and just compensation for the victim is good, jail time for speech just isnt a good idea unless it actively puts someone or a group of people in danger
I’ve never understood this. Why should harm be ignored in law? Would you really feel free in a country where you just had to allow someone to say what they wanted whenever they wanted?
While what the dude did is terrible. And the football team banning him from their stadium fair. I really can’t get behind it being illegal. This may be my American sensibilities but he should not face criminal charges for speaking. The team can ban him sure but jail? Seriously?
Being a total knobhead shouldn’t get you charged as a criminal.
it’s an actual joke what western society has become - not for one second are his actions fine, they’re disgusting and vile.
but where do u draw the line between that and making a 9/11 meme on the internet?
Heard and seen way worse in COD lobbies back in the day.
Except he wasn’t in CDD lobbies, he was on the terraces next to the away fans laughing with a picture of a dead child who was well known for supporting Sunderland.
Yeah, which is vile, granted. Not sure what the actual *crime* here is though given you’d be hard pushed to find somebody that hasn’t made/laughed at a 9/11 joke, AIDS joke, cancer joke, dead celebrity joke, Jimmy Saville jokes, in their lifetime.
Difference is none of that was televised.
……televised next to the away fans. Like 9/11jokes in the NY Fire Department, AIDS/cancer joke to a dying victim and their family, Saville joke to one of his victims? Plus there is no ‘joke’ here, just an attempt to cause as much crass offence as possible. Context.