In a statement, Northvolt says its validated cell is more safe, cost-effective, and sustainable than conventional nickel, manganese and cobalt (NMC) or iron phosphate (LFP) chemistries and is produced with minerals such as iron and sodium that are abundant on global markets.
It is based on a hard carbon anode and a Prussian White-based cathode, and is free from lithium, nickel, cobalt and graphite. Leveraging a breakthrough in battery design and manufacturing, Northvolt plans to be the first to industrialize Prussian White-based batteries and bring them to commercial markets.
Reports across the web also say the technology enables the supply chain to become ecologically more sustainable, cheaper, abd less dependent on China.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
This isn’t some technology being researched, it’s an actual product in development. I’d certainly take their numbers with a pinch of salt but the premise is solid.
This isn’t some futuristic technology. Na-ion was originally researched at the same time as Li-ion but didn’t show enough commercial promise in the 1990s.
Sodium-ion batteries have already been deployed in a few locations. The energy density is only 160 Wh/kg (compared to 100-220 for Li-ion) so you won’t see it in personal devices, but for applications where space isn’t at a premium, this technology is already in market.
I believe you mean mass, not space if you cite the energy density per kg.
Technically correct (best kind) but in reality, to get the same capacity, you’ll need more mass, which uses more space as well.
Well, it is a big difference when we are talking about applications like air or space travel where space might be a lot easier to increase than the capacity to carry extra mass.
What’s the use case for these batteries? Comments below indicate that they have a lower energy density and use a cyanide compound, which means that they won’t be for personal devices (form factor and safety!). Is the intent for grid scale storage from renewables? Would safety still be an issue (is there any way the cyanide could be evolved off as a gas due to over heating, over charging, etc?)
yes. grid scale storage is always what I heard from these where inexpensive beats density because volume difference is of little concern. In addition it keeps it from using up lithium that is necessary for other uses.
I’d like to read this comment from hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36834046
It seems there’s news of a battery breakthrough every week. I’ve learned to temper expectations, because so many “breakthroughs” turn out to be dead ends. Because it’s not enough for a battery to be incredibly light, or made of abundant materials, or last for ten thousand cycles. It needs to be good at many things and at least okay at most things. E.g.— • How much capacity per dollar? • How much capacity per kilogram? • How much capacity per litre? • How quickly can it be charged? • How quickly can it be discharged? • How much energy is lost between charging and discharging? • How predisposed is it to catching fire? • How available are the materials needed to manufacture it? • How available are the tools/skills required to manufacture it? • How resilient is it to mechanical stress, e.g. vibration? • How much does performance degrade per cycle? • How much does performance degrade when stored at a high state of charge? • How much does performance degrade when stored at a low state of charge? • How much does performance drop at high temperatures? • How much does performance drop at low temperatures? • How well can it be recycled at end-of-life? A sufficiently bad answer for any one of these could utterly exclude it from contention as an EV battery. A battery which scores well on everything except mechanical resilience is a non-starter, for example. Though it might be great for stationary storage. I’m only a layperson and this list is what I came up with just a few minutes of layperson thought. I’m sure someone with more familiarity with battery technology could double the length of this list. But the point is, when you daydream about some hypothetical future battery tech, you need to appreciate just how well today’s lithium chemistries score in so many areas
