• spspamam@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Am I crazy or does this situation feel incredibly overblown? At the end of the day, it was two players talking shit, and it seems like people are making it out like some incredibly violent interaction occurred.

    Also, maybe people in this sub haven’t gotten over the Messi vs Ronaldo bullshit, but it was Rodrygo talking shit after the Argentinian national team to their credit tried deescalating the situation. Then they lost the fucking game to Argentina. I fail to see how this situation is embarrassing to Messi in any way. Unless you think Messi is some morally-just angel with the temperament of a preschool teacher, his response seems pretty normal in comparison to other players

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      10 months ago

      Tbf I do think that anyone not named messi would have gotten a straight red for putting their hands around another player’s neck like that

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      10 months ago

      Definitely overblown, but definitely overlooking the full context of the situation. Rodrygo got racially abused, which has been the hot topic of football, especially since he plays along side Vinicius, so people will focus on that more. Dont get me wrong, under no circumstances does Rodrygo deserve to get racial abused, however, he made himself out to be a target to the Argentine racists considering he was being completely insensitive towards the Argentina fans that were experiencing police brutality in the stands.

      Not saying it justifies racism, because it doesnt, however that was the reason he was targeted. Rodrygo was being a complete idiot in his remarks towards Messi and co.

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      10 months ago

      The game was bad, they lose, brasilian police repressing argentians, rodrygo calling coward a team that tried to deescalate the situation and defend the safety of the public… They have to shift the conversation somehow

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          10 months ago

          And none of them see how cringey it is that a player’s father posts shit like this on Instagram like a wittle baby.

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            10 months ago

            This is literally just regular beef between two footballers from rival countries. They are acting like Messi racially abused Rodrygo himself.

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      10 months ago

      Oh yeah rodrygo suffered racism from half the argentinian population and it is just overblown

      cmon just because it is messi you guys are going to ignore what is happening here?

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          10 months ago

          he is conivent, he never speaks agains racism, even when his country always does this shit

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        10 months ago

        Did you visit the Real Madrid sub recently? Rodrigo getting racial comments has nothing to do with Messi yet everyone is talking shit about messi there, it’s like they couldn’t care less about Rodrigo they just got a reason to hate on messi again. Racism - bad. Rodrigo calling the argentine team “cowards” because they refused to play while the police were beating their fans in the stands - also bad. Both can be bad, no one is justifying racism nor is anyone saying he deserves it

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      10 months ago

      Please explain for me what actually happened. I have seen reports about crowd trouble also, is this connected?

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        10 months ago

        It’s very connected. The Brazilian FA and/or the stadium messed up and placed the away fans right in the middle of the home crowd. A fight broke out in the stands. The Rio police went in there and started beating the Argentines bloody, even with women and kids in the line of fire. The Argentine players decided to postpone the match until the violence stopped. Rodrygo accused Messi of being a chickenshit for the delay. Messi reminded him that the last time he played in the Maracaná, Argentina won and the world champions are not afraid of anyone.

        They played, and Brazil lost. Now Rodrygo is getting hate from the usual human trash on Twitter because he turned a blind eye to police brutality and called someone else a coward for not doing so. (I think Marquinhos was the only Brazilian who tried to help, so props to him).

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          10 months ago

          Thanks for your reply, much appreciated! I assume you are Argentinian? Is there an alternative perspective or is this the general feeling?

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      10 months ago

      Unless you think Messi is some morally-just angel with the temperament of a preschool teacher

      I think most people do treat Messi that way though.

      • refusestonamethyself@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Yeah, this infantilization of Leo Messi never sat right with me. Just because he is introverted doesn’t mean he won’t get into squabbles with opposition players at all.

        As a general statement, Rodrygo’s dad is right. It’s just that context doesn’t make the statement look great.

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          10 months ago

          Lol Rodrygos dad is right ??? He literally posted this cuz his son is involved…and you wouldn’t believe me…why is son is involved… Apparently he called the captain of the opposition team coward for not playing a football match cuz people from his country were getting beat up with batons… I mean who even priorities stupid lives of people over a football match… Definitely right dad…

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        10 months ago

        The issue is that people just glorify these athletes. Messi is a reserved guy, not very outspoken guy, but when provoked he will attack back. Should not be shunned for it, he is still a human who is going to defend himself. Just cause the guy is quite and not assertive, doesn’t mean he isn’t spineless.

        Like any person, even if they are calm and relaxed nature, they will attack back at a certain point.