• calmdragoon@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Oh yeah we get hit with racism every time we play against this unicivilized country but because they have messi they are the good guys

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    10 months ago

    Damn I remember when Brazil used to shit on us, and we would shit on them, the matchs were pure violence, and for 2 hours we would hate each other, and the day after neither the Argentinian nor Brazilian people would be crying about that

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        Yeah, but both sides became like that, Olé starts crying whenever a Brazilian player mocks us, they started a war with Richarlison (?), with that Gabriel Jesus gesture a lot of people started crying, I mean, of course Brazilians became waaaaaay more used to cry and complain these last years, but we haven’t been that much better TBH

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        10 months ago

        Diz o torcedor do Boca Jrs kkkkkkkkkkkkkk a gente ganhou espelho em 1500 e vocês até hoje não, impressionante, patéticos.

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            10 months ago

            Perdona pa, no hablo ni un poco tu idioma

            1 real = 73,18 pesos.

            5 > 3.

            Putinha do Fluminense.

            Hope you understand this. Hugs.

            • ThatSmilingDude@alien.topB
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              Ay gordi hablan de economia en un sub de fútbol, los hicieron mierda Messi, Di Maria y Scaloni. Que bajo cayeron.

              Buenísimos los dvds del 2002, yo vi a Lio dar la vuelta en tu casa y en Qatar en 4K

              Felicidades al Flu por ganar su primera copa, cuando estén por la sexta mandame un mensajito.

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      10 months ago

      People are too soft nowdays bro.

      The Brazilians and the Argentinian who care about Messi and Rodrygo trash talking are probably not even football fans.

      That’s what’s Brasil vs Argentina supposed to be.

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        10 months ago

        Are you sure? Like, I have seen countless times brazillians with Argentina’s jersey in here, no matter the season, but the other way around is a type of thing that would get you beaten to shit. I don’t know, this rivalry seems a bit one sided to me. The recent events makes me be seen wrong I know, but the burning rage was due to Argentina being WC champions.

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    10 months ago

    Messi is the goat but it’s true people overplay how nice he is and portray him as some sort of kind and pacifist saint when throughout his career he’s shown he’s definitely not above some dirtiness and feistiness in his play and conduct.

    Not saying he’s particularly terrible but let’s get it straight the guy isn’t squeaky clean like Kante or someone like that

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    10 months ago

    Lol the Messi cockriding on here is insane.

    He’s the best player of all time. He’s not a saint as much as some of you act like it.

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      10 months ago

      What should he have done when the police started beating Argentine fans and the Brazilian players not only didn’t help the Argentine players try to calm down the police but mocked them for it?

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        10 months ago

        He could do the same thing he does when Argentinians are racist towards Brazilians and other nations, nothing lol

        Cry me a river, Argentinians are the worst fans of all in SA, they were fighting brazilians before the cops came in.

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          Rich coming from a Brazilian huh, away fans can’t even place a foot in Rio without getting beaten or robbed lmao

          Rodrygo and co could do the same thing btw

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            The city is dangerous and your fans are racist and agressive, both can be true.

            Your argument means nothing, at least I know Rio is dangerous, but people dont rob you beacuse of your nationality, they just rob lol

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              I am sure targeting those who speak Spanish or wear a specific football shirt was just coincidence lol. Your fans are prominently violent too, the city may be dangerous but i remind you attacks in Copacabana were lead by fans (if u want to call them that btw).

              Also Brazilians on twitter celebrating the stolen stuff as if they were “trophies” or justifying police brutality… no seas caradura jaja

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      10 months ago

      Rodrygo called Messi a “coward” for standing up to his people. Yet calling him out for being wrong means cockriding Messi? Are you really that fucking dumb?

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      10 months ago

      How the post is formulated is funny. Rodrygo’s father ATTACKS Messi. ATTACKS if this is an attack what Messi has done last few games is a crime. Messi dickriding is real here.

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      10 months ago

      What do u mean by saint? Rodrygo called them cowards because didnt want to play because of brazilian power abuse… u wanted messi to shut up? lol

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        10 months ago

        I mean he consistently shuts up and plays when Argentina racially abuses him…. It’s not right to defend the Brazilian police but idk how people are overlooking that important fact in whatever this mess is.

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    10 months ago

    Regadless of the context this is right lol Messi reminds me of Federer. Extremely carefully curated image on the court and on the outside but likely an unlikeable asshole irl. They both have let it slip a couple of times when angry. But they are PR creations. It must be tiring living like that.

    At least Djokovic and Ronaldo own up who they are.

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    10 months ago

    Good old times when Brazil vs Argentina used to be full of brawls and nobody would cry over it.

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    10 months ago

    What people fail to mention here is that (non surprisingly) argentinians are harassing Rodrygo with racism ever since the game.

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    10 months ago

    Why is it any time Messi or Ronald are involved in even the tiniest of scenarios it has to get overblown and turned into some massive controversy with everything getting overanalysed with microscopes. It’s so annoying.

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    10 months ago

    Am I crazy or does this situation feel incredibly overblown? At the end of the day, it was two players talking shit, and it seems like people are making it out like some incredibly violent interaction occurred.

    Also, maybe people in this sub haven’t gotten over the Messi vs Ronaldo bullshit, but it was Rodrygo talking shit after the Argentinian national team to their credit tried deescalating the situation. Then they lost the fucking game to Argentina. I fail to see how this situation is embarrassing to Messi in any way. Unless you think Messi is some morally-just angel with the temperament of a preschool teacher, his response seems pretty normal in comparison to other players

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      10 months ago

      Unless you think Messi is some morally-just angel with the temperament of a preschool teacher

      I think most people do treat Messi that way though.

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        The issue is that people just glorify these athletes. Messi is a reserved guy, not very outspoken guy, but when provoked he will attack back. Should not be shunned for it, he is still a human who is going to defend himself. Just cause the guy is quite and not assertive, doesn’t mean he isn’t spineless.

        Like any person, even if they are calm and relaxed nature, they will attack back at a certain point.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah, this infantilization of Leo Messi never sat right with me. Just because he is introverted doesn’t mean he won’t get into squabbles with opposition players at all.

        As a general statement, Rodrygo’s dad is right. It’s just that context doesn’t make the statement look great.

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          Lol Rodrygos dad is right ??? He literally posted this cuz his son is involved…and you wouldn’t believe me…why is son is involved… Apparently he called the captain of the opposition team coward for not playing a football match cuz people from his country were getting beat up with batons… I mean who even priorities stupid lives of people over a football match… Definitely right dad…

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      10 months ago

      Tbf I do think that anyone not named messi would have gotten a straight red for putting their hands around another player’s neck like that

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      Definitely overblown, but definitely overlooking the full context of the situation. Rodrygo got racially abused, which has been the hot topic of football, especially since he plays along side Vinicius, so people will focus on that more. Dont get me wrong, under no circumstances does Rodrygo deserve to get racial abused, however, he made himself out to be a target to the Argentine racists considering he was being completely insensitive towards the Argentina fans that were experiencing police brutality in the stands.

      Not saying it justifies racism, because it doesnt, however that was the reason he was targeted. Rodrygo was being a complete idiot in his remarks towards Messi and co.

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      The game was bad, they lose, brasilian police repressing argentians, rodrygo calling coward a team that tried to deescalate the situation and defend the safety of the public… They have to shift the conversation somehow

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          And none of them see how cringey it is that a player’s father posts shit like this on Instagram like a wittle baby.

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            This is literally just regular beef between two footballers from rival countries. They are acting like Messi racially abused Rodrygo himself.

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      10 months ago

      Please explain for me what actually happened. I have seen reports about crowd trouble also, is this connected?

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        It’s very connected. The Brazilian FA and/or the stadium messed up and placed the away fans right in the middle of the home crowd. A fight broke out in the stands. The Rio police went in there and started beating the Argentines bloody, even with women and kids in the line of fire. The Argentine players decided to postpone the match until the violence stopped. Rodrygo accused Messi of being a chickenshit for the delay. Messi reminded him that the last time he played in the Maracaná, Argentina won and the world champions are not afraid of anyone.

        They played, and Brazil lost. Now Rodrygo is getting hate from the usual human trash on Twitter because he turned a blind eye to police brutality and called someone else a coward for not doing so. (I think Marquinhos was the only Brazilian who tried to help, so props to him).

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          Thanks for your reply, much appreciated! I assume you are Argentinian? Is there an alternative perspective or is this the general feeling?

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      Oh yeah rodrygo suffered racism from half the argentinian population and it is just overblown

      cmon just because it is messi you guys are going to ignore what is happening here?

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          10 months ago

          he is conivent, he never speaks agains racism, even when his country always does this shit

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        Did you visit the Real Madrid sub recently? Rodrigo getting racial comments has nothing to do with Messi yet everyone is talking shit about messi there, it’s like they couldn’t care less about Rodrigo they just got a reason to hate on messi again. Racism - bad. Rodrigo calling the argentine team “cowards” because they refused to play while the police were beating their fans in the stands - also bad. Both can be bad, no one is justifying racism nor is anyone saying he deserves it

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    Rodrygo’s father can go eat shit and teach his son some values, he had no rights to call Argentinian cowards for defending their people.

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    Yet he was wanting his son to go to Barcelona just to play with Messi. Maybe Rodrygo should watch his mouth next time

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        What more do I need to understand? His son called Messi and co. ‘cowards’ for wanting to protect the away fans. So why is he getting pissy on Instagram about Messi’s confrontation?

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    From what I understand, Messi refused to play until police stopped beating Argentinian fans with batons and Rodrygo got pissy and started calling him a coward for it?

    Not sure what his dad’s upset about. Maybe he should teach his son to keep his mouth shut instead of needlessly talking nonsense.

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      10 months ago

      he is upset because messi fans are racially harassing rodrygo, and messi is staying quiet so he is conivent

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      Tangentially related, this is thought to be one of the reasons Suarez bit someone in the WC. He’d had his issues, obviously, but it was reported that seeing a sports psychologist was an FSG-mandated condition of his returning to play after his suspension. The counseling, anecdotally, seemed to improve his anger management abilities. His intensity on the pitch never wavered, but (iirc) his proclivity to pick up yellows for dumb shit like kicking balls away, went down significantly.

      Then, the World Cup happens, he’s whisked away from Liverpool, his psychologist, and his support structure, and is told in so many words that the fate of the Uruguayan national team is on his shoulders. In that context, while in no way excusing his actions, it’s not necessarily that difficult to see why he relapsed.