• Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        9 months ago

        Glad to know the IDF propaganda is working so well.

        Next we should spin up bots that comment silly things like “bad people on both sides.” Genius /s

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        This is a simple oppressed people fighting back against Zionist settler colonialists.

        Staying in a fascist ethnostate is a choice that Israelis make, and it’s fucked up that the children’s parents do so.

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          The “simple oppressed people” kinda loses its touch when they daily fire dozens of rockets indiscriminately at Israel. They don’t even have targets, just trying to cause as much destruction as possible.

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          Taking hostages and bombing civillians is not fighting back against the settlers. If the actually did it they would attack the settlers and no innocents. The IDF and israel government are committing a genocide against palestinians but at the same time Hamas is attempting one against israelitea. They are the same level of monsters, just one is stronger than the other.

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            Their attacks were extremely targeted at IDF soldiers. Hamas civilian casualty rate is far lower than the avarage American rate. Let alone the israeli rate

            Only 29 of the 1200 killed were children. It’s very clear they avoided killing them.

            Meanwhile israel has genocided 6000 children already.

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              Are you willfully ignorant or just sticking to false reports?

        • chakan2@lemmy.world
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          Simple people is correct. You might want to look up Hamas’s approval rating.

          Both sides here are evil. We’re just debating which circle of hell they’re going to.

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            The brave Palestinians aren’t going to allow themselves to get ethnically cleansed without a fight. Both sides are not evil only the israelis are.

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          Gaza is literally a fascist ethnostate while Israel is the most ethnically diverse country within thousands of miles. And Hamas’s method of “fighting back” is murdering thousands of innocents and rejecting any form of peace. You explicitly support terrorism?

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            gaza doesn’t have the autonomy that comes with being a state - the borders and ports are completely controlled by the IDF. Its also about half children by population. Its essentially more similar to a concentration camp for ethnic minorities than it is a state.

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            Gaza has all kinds of ethnicities and doesn’t discriminate between religions. There are plenty of Christians living there.

            Meanwhile israel is a Zionist apartheids ethno-state where people of one religion have more rights than others.

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    9 months ago

    How is it a war if one side can cut off the electricity, fuel and drinking water used by the other side ?

  • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    bad headline. this should read “Israel resumes executing child inmates in the worlds largest prison camp.”

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    9 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The seven-day pause, which began on Nov. 24 and was extended twice, had allowed for the exchange of dozens of hostages held in Gaza for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners and facilitated the entry of humanitarian aid into the shattered coastal strip.

    At an emergency meeting in Amman, Jordan’s King Abdullah on Thursday urged U.N. officials and international groups to pressure Israel to allow more aid into the beleaguered enclave, according to delegates.

    When the ceasefire first came into effect a week ago, Israel was preparing to turn the focus of its operation to southern Gaza after its seven-week assault to the north.

    U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, in Israel during his third visit to the Middle East since the war began, did not comment on the resumption of fighting as he headed for Dubai.

    On Thursday, Blinken said he told Netanyahu Israel cannot repeat in south Gaza the massive civilian casualties and displacement of residents it inflicted in the north.

    “We discussed the details of Israel’s ongoing planning and I underscored the imperative for the United States that the massive loss of civilian life and displacement of the scale that we saw in northern Gaza not be repeated in the south,” Blinken told reporters in Tel Aviv, adding the Israeli government had agreed.


    The original article contains 811 words, the summary contains 214 words. Saved 74%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • GiddyGap@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    I get Israel’s anxiety, literally being surrounded by nations that want to obliterate it from the face of the earth. Still, that doesn’t justify war crimes.

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      Replace “Israel” with “Russia” in your comment. Oh, wow, now suddenly neighboring nations have reasons to want them obliterated from the earth?

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        Russia is not surrounded. They have friends along most of their borders or a sea in between.

  • pan_troglodytes@programming.dev
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    9 months ago

    a truce is a pause in warfare - peace is only achieved via surrender. in this particular war, it’ll be only unconditional surrender - and it’s obvious who’s going to be surrendering to whom.

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      Reminder that there was a 56 year occupation and a 75 year ethnic cleansing before the 7th of October attacks

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        Some more reminders to add:

        • Reminder that a majority of Palestinian deaths since October 7th were not members of Hamas

        • Reminder that hundreds have been murdered in the West Bank since October 7th even though “war” was only declared against Hamas who has no administration over the West Bank

        • Reminder that a large swath of civilian deaths were children who had no say in the 2006 “election” of Hamas to administer the Gaza strip

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          • Reminder that multiple Palestinian villages have been ethnically cleansed in the West Bank during the assault on Gaza, by settler militias supported by the IOF.

          • Reminder that Israel rejected early proposals for hostage exchanges opting instead for carnage on the Palestinian civilians.

          • Reminder that Israel KNEW of the October 7 attack ahead of time and failed to do anything to stop it.

          • Reminder that Israel is by all accounts a setler-colonial ethnostate imposing apartheid on the Palestinian people.

        • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
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          Do you have a citation for hundreds of murders in the West Bank? All I can find are articles about individual incidents, and one that mentioned 34 children.

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          Reminder that a large swath of civilian deaths were children who had no say in the 2006 “election” of Hamas to administer the Gaza strip

          Gazan checklist: Elect a terrorist government, support Intifada (70% support,) have lots of kids in miserable conditions while in what critics call an “open air prison,” teach your kids to hate and become militants, allow Hamas to hide among your children while starting an unwinnable war, then blame Israel for the inevitable and predictable consequences.

          Why do none of you seem to consider Gazan parents responsible for the circumstances of their children?

          • Eldritch@lemmy.world
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            Maybe when you admit your parents raised you poorly, others might as well. You should lead by example.

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              Maybe when you admit your parents raised you poorly, others might as well. You should lead by example.

              Seems like you’re trying to violate rule 5 without addressing the substance of my comment.

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                Your post was basically a blood libel against Palestinians. Is that enough addressing of the substance for you?

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                  Your post was basically a blood libel against Palestinians.

                  I’d love to hear you make this obviously absurd comparison. Tell me more about how personal responsibility for one’s offspring is the same as baseless accusation of murdering and using the blood of Christians for rituals. I’ll wait.

                  Blood libel or ritual murder libel (also blood accusation) is an antisemitic canard which falsely accuses Jews of murdering Christians in order to use their blood in the performance of religious rituals.

          • samokosik@lemmynsfw.com
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            You are literally considering existing on an undisputed land as “occupation” and self-defense as ethnic cleansing. Just look at numbers of Palestinian population and the whole ethnic cleansing shit I see on the internet falls apart.

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                Yes, it is undisputed land. How else would you call it? Had Palestinians accepted one of the 14 offers Israel gave them, it could have been Palestinian land but now it is an undisputed land.

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      Reminder that hundreds of Palestinians were murdered during the 9-year “truce” from 2014-2023. Not to mention the land stolen and the homes, farms, and crops destroyed in the West Bank during that period.

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            You didn’t answer them. Why don’t unsuccessful attempts to blindly and indiscriminately murder Israelis count?

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              Did I ever say they don’t count? The point is that both Israel and Hamas violated the “truce”, making it a stretch to say there was an actual truce prior to October 7th.

              Israeli civilians and Palestinian civilians suffer as a result of the exchanges between the IDF and Hamas.

              Both the IDF and Hamas do not care about their civilians.

              Both the IDF and Hamas do not care about killing civilians to achieve their goal.

              But the IDF has been doing this for far longer than Hamas and helped to create them in the first place.

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          This is as terrible an argument as when republicans point to maps showing huge swathes of land colored red as if it’s land that votes instead of the smaller blue areas of land filled with way more people (i.e. actual voters) and claiming that republicans are underrepresented. Lives are what matter and it’s clear who is doing more killing.

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      No there wasn’t. Israel has never stopped committing acts of war against Gaza. There was a blockade in place and they never stopped doing strikes. To say there was a truce is fucking farcical.

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    There’s a reason that “don’t negotiate with terrorists” is a good rule to follow

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      That’s just code for supporting genocide and totalitarianism. The only way to stop a terrorist movement is in fact to engage with it and deal with their grievances in good faith. You only fight them where it is necessary because every fight makes more recruits for their cause.

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        Too bad the grievances of these specific terrorists is that if you don’t become muslim they’ll kill you.

        This isn’t some fucking oppressed minority group just trying to be a good lil’ bean and live their lives. They’re radicals that want to genocide people and convert the world to islam by force and threat of death of you don’t.

        Do you think you should engage with domestic right wing US terrorism? To ask the christo-fascists why they are doing what they’re doing and to please stop it? No, they’re insidious because they will die believing they’re 100% in the right and that you trying to prevent them from a full takeover is being “intolerant.”

        Fucking insane you people sit here defending the middle east’s version of conservative Christian nationalism. Fuck all religious nutter butters, they’re the crabs in a bucket trying to revert us to the middle ages so they can have their way with society.

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          That’s funny. They sure seem to leave the Christians in Gaza alone for having forcible conversion as a policy.

          Oh right, I forgot. You’re full of shit. These guys aren’t Al Qaida. In fact they’ve consistently shut down any attempt at AQ coming into Gaza.

          They aren’t even saying they want Israel to be a Muslim sharia government. They just want Israel to leave Palestine alone.

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            The Christian population in Gaza has declined by 2/3 since 2009, when there were about 3,000 total. Today there are fewer than 1000.

            Hamas has made a huge push to either get them to convert or leave, and have killed dozens.

            And why compare them to al Qaeda? Why not the Taliban?

            They have a formal alliance with the Taliban, and both are the governments of their state. Both have pretty much the same platform as well, and both are officially opposed to AQ because AQ competes with them for power.

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              You just can’t stop can you? Two seconds of googling reveals the Christians that left after the blockade blame the Israelis, not Hamas.