Donald Trump, the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, told his supporters on Saturday to "go into" Philadelphia and two other Democratic-run cities to "guard the vote" in 2024, repeating his unfounded claims of widespread election fraud in 2020 as justification for the call to action.

Speaking at a campaign event in Iowa, Trump said it was important to scrutinize the vote in the battleground states likely to determine the general election. He singled out the biggest cities in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia.

“So the most important part of what’s coming up is to guard the vote. And you should go into Detroit and you should go into Philadelphia and you should go into some of these places, Atlanta,” Trump said in Ankeny, a suburb of Des Moines.

Trump’s comments foreshadow what is likely to be a contentious election in November 2024. Despite the failure of dozens of lawsuits filed by Trump and his allies challenging the outcome in 2020, Trump continues to claim, without evidence, that he lost to U.S. President Joe Biden due to fraud.

  • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    People will be shot at polling places in 2024 because of this.

    The chatter in their group chats is already out of control. They want blood and they will have it.

    This isn’t just some dipshit spouting off without caring what his words mean. He sees the bloodthirsty calls for violence amongst his supporters, because it’s happening on his channels. This is an intentional, fascistic call for violence from a crowd he knows is willing and ready to do it. People really need to start believing him.

    I keep saying this, but if this was 1932 Germany and you knew what you know now, what would you do as a German citizen? That’s not hyperbole. Seriously, please think about it.

    • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
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      9 months ago

      I guarantee this, what will happen is people with guns will show up at polling places, they will threaten staff, and they will not be able to get police to get them to leave until it’s time for the polls to close. Kind of like how the police just stood there and did nothing when people got into the capital on January 6th, just like how the military was never deployed. The people who are trying to steal power for themselves, are the people who already have power, they just want more

      • Cranakis @lemmy.one
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        9 months ago

        In Atlanta? Detroit? Philly? No I don’t think so. Ppl with guns will show up and shit will go down. Hope those chucklefucks are ready.

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
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    9 months ago

    Well, we both know how this ends, with people with guns patrolling up and down polling places with firearms asking a whole bunch of questions, refusing to leave, and only being escorted out by police once the polls close.

    Why? Same reason why the police department is suspiciously empty during a klan meeting, the same reason why Bruce Wayne is never in his office during a Batman sighting.

  • June@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    All cities are democratic run.

    I think it’s ‘democrat run’ that you mean.

    • Neato@kbin.social
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      9 months ago

      Probably. But for every Trump fascist getting arrested or making a video “patrolling” a ballot box drop-off, for every fascist getting killed, those are huge news stories that will make voters reconsider if it’s even safe to vote. It’ll have a massive chilling effect on voters who aren’t obvious Trump supporters. Which is the point: fear.

      • Neato@kbin.social
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        9 months ago

        Yes, they should be. But it depends on the state.

        In California, it’s an issue of fairness to count ballots cast by people who then die before election day, Secretary of State Alex Padilla said. He said it’s just as conceivable that someone who votes early in person also dies before election day, and there is no way to identify and reject that ballot.

  • girlfreddy@lemmy.caOP
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    9 months ago

    Trump is setting the stage in Detroit, Philly and Atlanta to become round 2 of the Capitol riot.

    Jayzuz. :/

  • ArugulaZ@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Any kill-billy who tries to intimidate me to vote for Trump will be RETURNED to Trump, horizontally.

  • Vant@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    He’s basically asking for another Jan 6, but on a micro scale. Show up, disrupt the process, give them hell. If his dumbass followers take heed it won’t be pretty.

    What does “guarding the vote” even look like? Showing up with a gun and harassing minorities? If there is secret, insidious voter fraud occurring you’re not going to able to spot it by standing guard at the door (of course, there isn’t ). It would be happening behind the scenes. He is inciting political violence, just like he did in his speech before he set his mob loose on the capital.

  • Gargleblaster@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    If someone can sit outside Mar-A-Lago and identify who is coming and going, then we need people at polling stations doing the same when Trumplings show up to ‘guard’ the polls.

    No masks. No weapons. Put your ass on the line if you want to follow fascist orders.

  • IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    So is anyone planning to arm up and defend the voting stations against inevitable violent fascist redneck pieces of treasonous dog shit?

    EDIT: I see a couple of folks are.

      • sndmn@lemmy.ca
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        9 months ago

        Thank fuck they’re just as competent as they are intelligent.

        • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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          9 months ago

          If Republicans successfully cause voter intimidation in a Democratic stronghold then those individuals are charged with a federal crime and the election continues regardless of their stupidity. If Democrats enter armed conflict with those Republicans, people fucking die for no good reason.

                • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
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                  9 months ago

                  “War is when overweight, middle aged men with no training, coordination or chain of command, parade around with small arms while the other side does a mass shooting”.

              • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
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                9 months ago

                I think the fantasy is probably “far-right extremist kills an expendable minority, granting me a free murder with my cool guns”.

                • KeriKitty (They(/It))@pawb.socialEnglish
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                  9 months ago

                  I think the fantasy is “I go to vote and some far-right extremist, intent on gunning me down for being trans, gets an argument against doing that promptly offered or constantly visible in opposition instead of simply killing me.” At the very least, people willing to put themselves “out there” as willing to fight/kill/die could then be the ones to do so rather than your method of just watching us die. “Expendable minority” you say, offering nothing for any of us.

                  Seriously, am I supposed to want you watching me get murdered saying “at least no centrists got hurt” over IHadTwoCows keeping me from getting murdered or, hell, shooting the person who did it? I really don’t understand how you think “instead of shooting people for doing murder or trying to stop them from it, just quietly let it happen” will help anyone. I wasn’t going to post, even, but this baffles the hell out of me especially since you’re suggesting that minorities dying is what you expect, difference being the reaction will be either “shoot the killer [before they make a mass shooting of it?]” or… what? Thoughts & prayers to the family of the deceased?

                  tl;dr: What are you gonna do for your “expendable minority” other than just watch them die? Seems like you’re the one happy to throw people’s lives away for nothing.

            • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
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              9 months ago

              How many have you killed so far then? Don’t be coy.

              Is the answer “zero” despite your “really good reason”?

              • IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee
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                9 months ago

                Is this supposed to be some sort of “gotcha”? The question makes no sense in the context of this conversation.

          • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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            9 months ago

            If Republicans successfully cause voter intimidation in a Democratic stronghold then those individuals are charged with a federal crime

            Oh good, I’m sure the Republicans wouldn’t do something illegal like try to alter the outcome of an election!

            and the election continues regardless

            So if Republican civilians successfully cause voter intimidation, those civilians go to jail. Meanwhile the election continues regardless, and those intimidated voters would still help Republican politicians win their seats. And you say that like that’s okay.

            • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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              9 months ago

              I’m not sure if there has ever been a case in the last several decades where a voter intimidation attempt altered an election outcome, it’s kind of difficult to search for. Probably because all such attempts are inevitably ineffective under a system of laws.

              Please correct me if I’m wrong. Plenty of people convicted of the crime all the time, but almost no information on what happens afterwards if the impact were significant: would it go into special election?

        • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
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          9 months ago

          You going to shoot the ballots too? All those guns and the best you can offer is pagentry.

          You haven’t stopped a fascist running. You haven’t stopped the gerrymandering. You haven’t stopped corporate lobbying. You haven’t stopped far-right mass shootings.

          But apparently we’re supposed to line up to suck your dick because you’re going to puff out your chest and also fail to prevent voter intimidation?

          You’re the same problem in a blue shirt.