• afrom@feddit.de
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    10 months ago

    They allowed the US SUV and pickup fashion to swap over to Europe (20 years ago there was little to none of those on European roads) so that when people are buying them, they get punished for doing so!? My point is, why the majority is acting like it is the ordinary people’s fault?

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      10 months ago

      why the majority is acting like it is the ordinary people’s fault?

      Because it is. The market produces what consumers buy.

      If nobody buys SUVs, nobody produces SUVs. It’s 100% on the consumer in the EU, there’s enough other cars available.

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        10 months ago

        Partly correct …market produces what consumers buy but here was no such things like SUVs and pickups so they needed to introduce them so ppl can buy. It’s basically marketing 1st. Marketing has a huge influence

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      10 months ago

      If you buy a more expensive car that just consumes a lot more fuel and space without any benefit you shouldn’t complain about paying more or policy measures to minimise that

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        10 months ago

        In that case you pay much higher taxes already …at least in my country

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            A lot higher, double, triple or ever more. Depends on the CO2 emissions of the particular vehicle so bigger engine, more power, more weight, less aerodynamics, higher consumption means higher taxes. This is of course for combustion vehicles …don’t know about the EVs, never owned one

            “If you buy a more expensive car …”

            Oh and by the way, the vehicles price has nothing to do with emissions and so on.

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              10 months ago

              SUVs are usually more expensive than a car the same size in a non-SUV-Version.

              The SUV Version of a vehicle of the same size is usually more expensive.

              Just curious, from which country are you from. And what’s the average price for vehicle tax?

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                I’m from Romania but I actually have business in Germany so I’m resident in both countries. It’s pretty much the same for both, just a bit lower for RO. For example a 1.2L vehicle with about 80hp is something like ~90€ but a 2L vehicle with 300hp will be ~250€ and a 4L vehicle with 600hp will cost ~620€ so it’s ramping up a lot.

                Of course you are right, an SUV is usually more expensive. I don’t care to much about SUVs because I don’t like them, I don’t like the looks.

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          10 months ago

          Obviously.

          Your choice of metaphors however clearly implies you see yourself as a victim, or at the very least a wronged party. I wanted to forcefully push back against that framing.

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            No I don’t see myself as a victim. Never owned an SUV and most likely never will because I don’t like them and also I don’t live in France so it’s pointless however.

            I wanted to forcefully push back against that framing

            By doing so you do demonstrate that you allowed yourself to be instrumentalized. Maybe one day you guys will understand but of course that’s up to you.

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                10 months ago

                Nothing my friend …give everything you earn (if you do) to the govt. Have a good life without cars and flights. All is up to you, life is short.

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                  10 months ago

                  give everything you earn (if you do) to the govt

                  First of all, we’re talking about parking fees in Paris. They are very very high, but not quite that expensive.

                  Second, you need to have some cash left over for the Illuminati, the NWO and the world economic forum man.

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                    10 months ago

                    Who ist talking about those things!? TF is wrong with u? Why I’m even wasting my time