• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    10 个月前

    Misleading headline.

    It also applies to electric vehicles over 2000kg, which is pretty much most of them.

    London’s ULEZ scheme is better than this.

    • schlump@feddit.de
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      10 个月前

      While it’s true that this is not only about cutting air pollution, there are many EVs that under 2000kg

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        10 个月前

        Yeah but the public doesn’t pearl clutch like they do when they “think of the children”.

    • badmemes@feddit.de
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      10 个月前

      Or do the same stuff on an EU-wide level? I bet there are a lot of other cities that could use her kind of changes.

      • Anekdoteles@feddit.de
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        10 个月前

        Problem is, that cities are politically gerry-mandered into entitities with SFH developed areas and countrysides. That’s why we don’t see urbanism as the powerful political force that it could and should be.

    • V0uges@jlai.lu
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      10 个月前

      Well send her with great pleasure, wherever you want and don’t feel as you need to ship her back. Just ensure that for once she pushes for policies that aren’t just intended to punish the people who live outside of her city while she maintains the status quo for her people and lets them do whatever they want.

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      10 个月前

      As usual. I work in Paris but decided to move way out of the city. Technically still Paris metro but it’s plain countryside, small villages, forest and all. Most people here drive regular cars. Farmers and people who work in the forest or manual jobs now tend to use Asian style pick-ups. But when I exit the subway on the days I’m at the office, I’m suddenly surrounded by people who live in Paris and barely exit it (the surburbs, can you imagine the infamy and the poverty?) who drive massive Land Rovers which have never ever seen mud since they were built. They just want to ensure that people from the suburb don’t go inside the city limits, and if they do that it’ll only those with pockets full of cash.

      As usual, Hidalgo is full of shit.

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    They allowed the US SUV and pickup fashion to swap over to Europe (20 years ago there was little to none of those on European roads) so that when people are buying them, they get punished for doing so!? My point is, why the majority is acting like it is the ordinary people’s fault?

        • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          10 个月前

          Obviously.

          Your choice of metaphors however clearly implies you see yourself as a victim, or at the very least a wronged party. I wanted to forcefully push back against that framing.

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            No I don’t see myself as a victim. Never owned an SUV and most likely never will because I don’t like them and also I don’t live in France so it’s pointless however.

            I wanted to forcefully push back against that framing

            By doing so you do demonstrate that you allowed yourself to be instrumentalized. Maybe one day you guys will understand but of course that’s up to you.

              • afrom@feddit.de
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                Nothing my friend …give everything you earn (if you do) to the govt. Have a good life without cars and flights. All is up to you, life is short.

                • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  give everything you earn (if you do) to the govt

                  First of all, we’re talking about parking fees in Paris. They are very very high, but not quite that expensive.

                  Second, you need to have some cash left over for the Illuminati, the NWO and the world economic forum man.

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      10 个月前

      If you buy a more expensive car that just consumes a lot more fuel and space without any benefit you shouldn’t complain about paying more or policy measures to minimise that

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        10 个月前

        In that case you pay much higher taxes already …at least in my country

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            A lot higher, double, triple or ever more. Depends on the CO2 emissions of the particular vehicle so bigger engine, more power, more weight, less aerodynamics, higher consumption means higher taxes. This is of course for combustion vehicles …don’t know about the EVs, never owned one

            “If you buy a more expensive car …”

            Oh and by the way, the vehicles price has nothing to do with emissions and so on.

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              SUVs are usually more expensive than a car the same size in a non-SUV-Version.

              The SUV Version of a vehicle of the same size is usually more expensive.

              Just curious, from which country are you from. And what’s the average price for vehicle tax?

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                10 个月前

                I’m from Romania but I actually have business in Germany so I’m resident in both countries. It’s pretty much the same for both, just a bit lower for RO. For example a 1.2L vehicle with about 80hp is something like ~90€ but a 2L vehicle with 300hp will be ~250€ and a 4L vehicle with 600hp will cost ~620€ so it’s ramping up a lot.

                Of course you are right, an SUV is usually more expensive. I don’t care to much about SUVs because I don’t like them, I don’t like the looks.

    • Domi@lemmy.secnd.me
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      why the majority is acting like it is the ordinary people’s fault?

      Because it is. The market produces what consumers buy.

      If nobody buys SUVs, nobody produces SUVs. It’s 100% on the consumer in the EU, there’s enough other cars available.

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        10 个月前

        Partly correct …market produces what consumers buy but here was no such things like SUVs and pickups so they needed to introduce them so ppl can buy. It’s basically marketing 1st. Marketing has a huge influence