• Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca
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      9 个月前

      While I agree, Ranked is a solid improvement over FPTP.

      EDIT: After some reading, I retract my statement, Ranked has a bunch of glaring flaws and can be worse sometimes. Still good that people are talking about it though.

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        The biggest advantage of ranked choice is that it allows third (… tenth) party votes

        It’s also more fun television, watching as candidates come last and their votes flow

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          Among other things discussed ITT, ranking your second candidate higher can result in your first candidate loosing in basically a spoiler effect.

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            I assume you mean ranking your second choice lower can make your first choice win? I would say that’s actually a great advantage of RCV, it means moderates have more chance to win. Someone who’s liked by everyone but is nobody’s favorite can win.

            • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca
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              No, ranking your second higher can make your first (and second) loose. The spoiler effect still exists, except it punishes moderates instead of extremists. If the orange party gets larger than the yellow party, it becomes an election between the greens and oranges, despite most people being okay with yellow. The compromise is unlikely to win.

              I though FPTP was so aweful that basically anything is better, but a few variants of ranked voting are nearly as bad for selecting prefered candidates, and encourage extremism, while being more complex (difficult to trust) and possibly a fraud risk (because all votes need to be processed together, double checking and anti-tampering is more difficult).

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        9 个月前

        That’s what is frustrating it is very marginally better yet consuming all the discourse, probably bc it would not dramatically change election results.

    • aliceblossom@lemmy.world
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      So, I understand what approval voting is, but I’m not sure I follow with “fiver member districts”. Is this referring to something like congressional districts, but instead of electing one person they elect five? Or maybe it means breaking a constituency into a huge number of tiny 5 voter districts?

      EDIT: Seems like maybe combining districts that only have 1 representative into larger districts that elect 5 representatives?

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        9 个月前

        Yeah 5 member districts is just saying that every legislative district elects 5 members at the same time instead of just 1. You assign winners using a proportional method so that the winners parties/opinions totals look like the general population. In a simple example, if a district has voters that are 40% blue, 40% red, and 20% yellow, 2 winning candidates should be blue, 2 should be red, and 1 yellow.

        Having multiple winners and assigning seats proportionally gets rid of the winner-take-all problem, which encourages a two party system regardless of what voting system you use.

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            The only thing that makes a parliamentary system such is that the head of state is elected by the legislature. Single-seat districts can and do exist under parliaments.