• alvaro@social.graves.cl
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    @cameron_vale@lemm.ee people tried to explain the natural phenomena the best way they could. Now we know better (i.e., the rain or lack of it isn’t due to an anger man in the sky).

    We grow in understanding, we need fewer made up explanations from our asses.

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      7 months ago

      That’s just a longwinded way of saying “they were dumb”.

      Thousands of years of dumb people. Then suddenly us smart guys appear?

      That seems unlikely.

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        @cameron_vale@lemm.ee where did I say they were dumb? don’t put words in my mouth. Also, ignorance != dumb

        I said they tried to explain natural phenomeana the best way they could. I mean that. Most likely every modern person would have done the same.

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        7 months ago

        Those same people eventually thought the sun revolved around us and labeled scientists who theorized and eventually proved otherwise as heretics.

        And now some still believe the world is flat.

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            7 months ago

            Stick the examples I offered.

            No. You can accept my response as an example of groupthink being completely wrong.

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              Then you are strawmanning.

              Arguing the more easily defeated interpretation.

              Rather than steelmanning.

              Which means arguing the actual point.

              And to do that. Hmm. Why would anybody do that?

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                7 months ago

                Based on the contents of this thread, you aren’t aware enough of fallacy to speak like an authority on it.

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                Then you are strawmanning.

                That is not a straw man. The other user is simply not cooperating on the arbitrary restrictions that you’re imposing on his argument. A straw man would require him to misrepresent your position.

                You are however cherry picking.

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                  Arbitrary? It’s literally the examples I offered in the title.

                  Which also implies the class of “stuff they saw but we don’t see”. And he could have gone there too.

                  But no. He went for the caricature.

                  You people.