• nothing@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      10 个月前

      Can’t name the incident, but this is an American Indian tribe vs police over a land dispute. I think it was about an oil pipeline crossing tribal lands.

      • Slowy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        edit-2
        10 个月前

        Probably the Dakota Access Pipeline protests at Standing Rock reserve?

      • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        10 个月前

        This is Police? They have fucking machineguns on cars?! If the 2A people would have any brains, they would dismantle the police now, because that is what a malicious governments supression force looks like.

        • GBU_28@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          10 个月前

          Police in many countries have these. They just rarely bring them out.

          Our cops go to the grocery with them.

            • tenacious_mucus@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              10 个月前

              Not the full military, per say- National Guard is controlled by each State’s Governor, but can still be called on and used on the Federal level. This was a State level issue. Not always for “defensive” issues either, usually humanitarian, etc.

              I’m not advocating one way or another on the WHY they are there, just pointing out that those armored vehicles are NOT police.

              • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                10 个月前

                thank you for the insight. In my country Germany it is prohibited to use the military in the interior, except for relief in natural catastrophes. Unfortunately this is something where the right wing nut jobs love to “open the debate” every decade or so.

                • lexihexi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  10 个月前

                  Don’t know if that is still holding up, but the German ministry of defence put terrorist attacks on the same list as natural disasters in their „Weißbuch“ around 2016. So theoretically we could have, what for historical reason we should never see again: The military enforcing inland. And while in Bavaria climate crisis protesters are held in detention under anti terror law, the picture discussed here could become reality in Germany faster than we might think.

                • GBU_28@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  10 个月前

                  Technically that’s true here too.

                  The national guard is normally used in disaster relief, like floods. But the Governor is like a tiny president, (sorta, kinda) and as such has some powers over the military force from their state (hand waving a lot here).

                  As such they can declare a protest or other interior event a “disaster” or public safety risk, and temporarily deploy national guard to support.

                  If I remember correctly, the guard have to abide by additional federal military rules, compared to state employees, so they are usually carefully used. and again I might be wrong but if the state deploys em, the state pays em,… Not the federal government

  • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    10 个月前

    Standing Rock is one of the key moments that totally eroded my faith in government.

    Here’s President Barack “Hope & Change” Obama in charge, with native peoples defending their home against a huge corporation wanting to pump toxic oil that we know is contributing to climate change, among many other problems.

    What does he do? Fuck all. He lets the bad guys win. He says his hands are tied.

    Fuck that. If a government can’t stop this kind of shit, what fucking good is it?

    Oh, and the best part is that that pipeline leaked and ruined their water just like they said it would.

    Oh, and Mr. Hopenchange’s buddy Grandpa Joe decided we should leave the pipeline open while we “research” the environmental impact.

    What a stupid world.

    • Jay@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      10 个月前

      n December 2016, under President Barack Obama’s administration, the Corps of Engineers denied an easement for construction of the pipeline under the Missouri River,[13][14][15] though this decision was reversed the following month by the incoming administration of President Donald Trump. The pipeline was completed by April 2017, and its first oil was delivered on May 14.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Access_Pipeline_protests

  • Sanctus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    10 个月前

    If you see a straight line of brown and tan uniforms, do you ever really think “theres the good guys?”

  • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    10 个月前

    Look how fucking fat all those assholes are. They don’t intimidate me in the slightest, because a light jog would be all you’d need to stay out of danger.

  • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    10 个月前

    Good thing that the police have turned up with a military humvee, I’m sure that will be needed

    • HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      10 个月前

      It was the national guard. But yea they shouldn’t be there either. The oil companies and the Republicans called them in smh. This was several years ago like when Trump was president