• ForestOrca@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    From wikipedia: “On December 15, 2023, Perry’s death was revealed to have occurred due to “acute effects of ketamine”.[94][95] Other circumstances that contributed to his death included the effects of buprenorphine, drowning, and coronary artery disease.[94]”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Perry#Death
    I was all, “who’s Matthew Perry”?

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    Ketamine’s effects on respiratory shit is serious.

    I almost stopped breathing during an assisted experience because I didn’t realize mixing K with benzos was dangerous.

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      It’s how Elijah McClain died too. Young kid stopped by police for matching the description. They shot him full of ketamine and he died of respiratory failure.

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    Im fairly certain that what I’m about to say will be disliked by ketamine users and abstainers.

    Ketamine is garbage at everything besides temporarily lobotomizing people. It works for it’s many uses because it makes the user stupid. It’s often given to suicidal people, not because it’s a miracle drug, but because it incapacitates them in a safe manner.

    That said, it’s great at making people too stupid to be able to hurt themselves, most of the time. It’s great at numbing psychological pain because the user will be too stupid to conceptualize their own thoughts or realize where they are physically.

    It’s also hard on the urinary system and has a fleeting high.

    If you like ketamine then by all means, you do you. If you may be interested in trying ketamine, become a zombie safely, just don’t expect it to cure your depression, woes, or any of your other problems.

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      Yeah, I’m gonna take the peer reviewed studies results that show that ketamine is quite effective with relieving drug resistant depression over this post of yours…

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        I have no dog in this fight, but any studies done on brain chemistry and psychological effects need to be taken with a grain of salt. We know so little about the brain and consciousness that most of the stuff we’re trying and doing are educated guesses.

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          Ketamine is garbage at everything besides temporarily lobotomizing people. It works for it’s many uses because it makes the user stupid. It’s often given to suicidal people, not because it’s a miracle drug, but because it incapacitates them in a safe manner.

          This quote from you contradicts what you’ve just said.

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      Or, get this, everyone experiences drugs differently and your bad anecdote is irrelevant next to the mountains of evidence and peer reviewed studies.

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      I judge my desire to try drugs by how people act when they’re on them. Do they look like they’re having fun at least? Two drugs I’ve never had an interest in:

      Ketamine

      Nitrous

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        That’s unfortunate. The effects of many drugs can be entirely mental rather than visual, leaving the person looking like they’re just laying down with their eyes closed, or staring into space.

        Particularly, ketamine, as a dissociative, at higher doses, is entirely in your mind. What a person in that state looks like from the outside is zero indication of what they are experiencing.

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          It’s not unfortunate. To me drugs are entirely unnecessary to begin with. And if I choose to use them it’s to enhance an activity, not to replace an activity or be an activity on its own. I’ll be fine.

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    I had no idea about what ketamine actually is, It seemms most likely to me that it was administered via IV by a MD, no? Wasn’t this manslaughter by the doctor, then?

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    Takes note: Don’t do horse-tranquilizers alone in a bath, check. As a matter of fact don’t do any analgesic/anesthetic with additional drugs in a bath, also check.

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      Calling them horse tranquilizers is misleading. Ketamine was and still is used in medicine and is on the WHO list of essential medicines.

      My cat is prescribed gabapentin. Some even get tramadol. Warfarin literally was rat poison until we got all but the craziest SOBs with an abundance of vitamin K in they’re veins.

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        oh, I tried that last month ! Pretty sweet high, relaxing. Like a really soft mdma (really soft!)

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    When Friends was current I wasn’t a fan, the small bits I’d seen mostly annoyed me and - disaffected gothy teens/early twenties guy that I was - I dismissed it as one of those things everyone in the mainstream liked and was therefore obviously garbage.

    Nowadays I’m married to a Friends fan who has begun showing me the series. As we progress through the box set I’m realizing it’s actually pretty good, a couple of the characters actually still annoy me when they’re focused on but there’s a ton else going on that’s pretty entertaining. I’m particularly surprised to be enjoying Chandler so much.

    It’s very sad what Matthew Perry went through in life and how he died, but I’m now belatedly appreciating some of the work he did.

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        you can’t just do that mate, same with Seinfeld, they were filmed in front of a live audience, they had to stop for laughter otherwise you wouldn’t hear what they are saying.

        or are you gonna come out and say Seinfeld isn’t hilarious?

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    Damn, I did not know Ket could depress respiration like this! In fact Ket is used medicinally in place of opioids as it doesn’t depress respiration. But here is the TIL part: it should not be mixed with benzos or alcohol (or other depressants I would imagine). I don’t use bu I hope someone who does get to read this.

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      ketamine is anaesthetic and was used in the past in combat medicine and such, because it is quite safe when administered by untrained stuff. the fact it is used to treat depression is new to me, but getting in the pool while high on it is the most stupid idea ever :(.

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      He was in the bathtub and drowned. If you take enough ketamine, it will literally incapacitate you (for many, that’s the entire point). He did this in a bathtub.

      He did not die from overdosing on ketamine, because that’s nearly impossible. He was stupid and incapacitated himself in a bathtub and drowned. It sucks, and it’s easy to just blame a chemical.

      I’m sure there are people who die after having a couple drinks and getting into the tub, but do we then say that they “died due to the acute effects of alcohol”? No. We say they drowned.