• jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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    7 months ago

    Time for the sartre quote again

    Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

    The right wing fundamentally do not care about facts and meaning. You can give as many stats and facts as you want that disprove their position and it doesn’t matter. They’re not arguing facts. They believe they’re right, and they’ll make whatever noises they want to justify that.

    They’re bad people.

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      7 months ago

      Perhaps the greater horror of fascism, from a philosophical perspective, is that it is essentially against the concept of meaning itself.

      Language is merely another tool to enforce domination and submission. All that really matters is being on the winning side.

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        7 months ago

        Definitely the most horrifying part to me (at this stage anyway, I imagine I’ll feel differently if they make it to camps phase later)

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          7 months ago

          I really hope it doesn’t get to the camps phase cause I’m know I’m at the top of thr list for an extended stay. (Or, very short stay depending on how extreme they wind up being)

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            7 months ago

            They’ve already got a better system than Hitler could have every hoped for: normal prison.

            The US has the largest prison population per capita, plus migrant holding facilities, plus juvenile holding facilities.

            All they need to do is capture the presidency and keep at least one chamber of Congress, and they can just expand the existing laws to target their enemies. The facilities are already in operation, they just need an excuse to grab the people they don’t like.

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      7 months ago

      Too bad I haven’t read Sartre, that quote is brilliant and I already have reinvented it poorly a few times.

      (Usually while analyzing verbal encounters with Turks\Azeris on Armenian issues, though, since open anti-Semites are hard to find, but them too.)

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        7 months ago

        They’re not that hard to find currently due to the ongoing situation in Gaza.

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          7 months ago

          Gently reminding everybody that condeming Israel’s actions in Gaza does not equate anti-Semitism. And blaming all the Jews for your troubles is anti-Semitism.