Denver police have arrested a 13-year-old boy accused of fatally shooting a man whose leg was blocking the aisle on a public bus.

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      It’s not just parenting. There are crap parents worldwide, yet this only regularly happens in one place.

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        I talk about how much America loves guns and it’s military and I get downvoted all the time. And I say that as a left-leaning armed American.

        Sorry that facts hurt people’s feelings. We literally had school shootings involving kindergartners a decade ago and nothing has changed. Nothing.

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          if you arent personally going into people’s houses and taking their weapons away from them, then preventing them from buying more weapons, then you cant expect anything to actually change.

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          Among the world’s economically developed democracies, it absolutely only happens in one nation. This is not up for debate; it’s an objective fact.

          How we choose to address this fact is up to us, but being in denial about it is not a sane option.

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          Yes it does. People under 18 getting hold of, and being irresponsible with, firearms is something that gets reported on frequently.

          But sure, name all these other places where this happens on a regular basis.

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                Why are only English-speaking countries relevant?

                But fine, Sudan. South Sudan. South Africa. Liberia. Sierra Leone. Ghana. Nigeria. Jamaica.

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                  Im saying that news that isn’t a “global scale” from smaller countries whose news isn’t in a language that a person can read generally never makes it to their eyes. Some people assume that if they haven’t read it, it hasn’t happened.

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              That’s absolutely not true. Data shows the only countries with higher gun deaths per capita than the US are all central and parts of South America. E.g., India’s per capita gun death rate is 0.56 vs 4.12 in the US.

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            You’re just clutching your pearls thinking “Children with guns in polite society? Good heavens!!!”

            Stop this nonsense. You only hear about the USA because you are on USA focused social media and you can’t speak any language used in Asia, Africa, or South America where they have 13 year olds with machine guns.

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              Really only South America (actually mostly central America and Brazil) and South Africa, Mali and Somalia fit into that stereotype. The rest of Africa and all of Asia (except Thailand, which is still significantly lower than the US) have very low rates of gun violence.

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                Some are higher, some are lower. I’m not trying to comment on stereotypes, I’m just saying the person pushing “USA is the only country with gun violence” (paraphrase) just can’t see past their nose.

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                What are their parameters though? Rwanda had a pretty violent genocide where 800k+ people died. I’m sure most of that was gun violence. Does that not count? Gaza is a hotbed for gun violence.

                Anyone can find statistics to argue their point.

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                  I can’t believe France’s gun homicide rate doesn’t even include all the shootings in WW1 😡😡😡

                  These stats are unamerican commie propaganda 😡😡😡

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                  We’re counting state violence now? Are you sure you want to include that statistic in defense of America? Our military has a 7-figure body count so far for the 21st century…

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              Lmao how America-brained do you have to be to say that thinking 13 year olds having guns is a bad thing is “pearl clutching”

              No. 13 year olds should not have guns.

              And I’m from Asia you nitwit. I speak a couple of Asian languages, as well as a couple of European ones, such as the one I’m speaking now.

              Asia does not have a gun problem. Africa does not have a gun problem. You made that up and tbh it just sounds like racist dog whistle - “those uncivilised darkies and slit-eyes are violent savages! Their children have machine guns! No I don’t have any proof, don’t ask!”

              South America yeah, particularly Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia. And so does the US. Forgive me for having higher expectations of the highest GDP country in the world than I do of fucking Venezuela.

              Children should not have tools designed expressly for quick and easy murder. If you think otherwise, cool. Have a good think about it next time you’re on the bus and a child shoots you when you do something to mildly inconvenience him.

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            Mexico? Except guess where Mexico gets most of their illegal firearms from…

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        It’s not guns, it never was done. It’s lack of good education, farming it out like it’s just some subscription thing. People aren’t learning practical information in schools. We don’t teach kids how to think, or how to deal with anger in their mind. And they get up and they grow up to be these idiot full grown adults who don’t know how to think past them not liking a person because of skin color, they go with their first wins because they’re idiots, they get a hold of guns because only idiots need guns. And then they do something stupid. Thinking it’s just guns is fucking stupid. Guns don’t hurt people people do blah blah blah, it’s true people suck now. They’re dumb they don’t read and they should shoot themselves in the head next time

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          It’s guns.

          People from other countries aren’t just intrinsically superior to Americans. We haven’t all trained our kids to be paragons of virtue. It’s that any American can trivially get a gun.

          It’s that simple. It’s guns.