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A little reminder of who this fascist CIA asset was: he regularly participated in neo-nazi marches, advocated to strip non-ethnic Russians of their Russian citizenship, and called muslim Chechens “cockroaches”.
It was so bad that even western media was forced to report on it. In 2021, a BBC article reported even Amnesty International was forced to strip Navalny’s “prisoner of conscience” status for the violence and hate he unremorsefully promoted https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56181084
That same month, US government-funded Radio Free Europe likewise was forced to concede Navalny’s extremist background https://www.rferl.org/a/navalny-failure-to-renounce-nationalist-past-support/31122014.html
And now BBC is spamming articles about “opposition leader dying in arctic prison”
They do love their nazis.
If he had really conquered power libs would have been like “oh no how could this happen, no one could’ve ever forseen that he would be even worse than Putin 😭”
If he had opened Russian markets to exploitation by Wall Street they wouldn’t have cared.
Western libs still look back fondly on the Yeltsin years…
We have pretty conclusive proof they were trying to make him into the Russian Guaido. There’s a clip going around from 2013 claimed to be either Navalny himself or the director of his “anti-corruption” fund (either way makes no difference) that shows them asking a British MI6 agent for 10-20 million dollars in order to plan, in their own words “mass protests, civil initiatives, propaganda, establishing contacts with elites”.
My bet is that the West decided now that he was going to serve a decades long sentence for numerous crimes he was no longer worth anything as an asset and they burned him. They did it at an opportune enough moment to create distraction from unfavorable developments and try to use this along with the fearmongering story they ran about Russian space nukes to get the US Congress to give them the money for more weapons to Ukraine.
The libs of mastodon are having a field day with this one, crying about how he was such a hero despite knowing fuck-all about anything.
No figure better encapsulates Western liberal propaganda against Russia.
Notice the complete absence of discussion of any other oppositions figures or forces (controlled or otherwise) within Russia, along with the attendant impression that he is supposed to be far more popular than he actually is.
Note the conspiracy of silence regarding his past and actual political ideology.
That being said, whatever the circumstances of his death, it’s a nationalist government killing a fascist. Oh well.
it’s a nationalist government killing a fascist.
If they wanted the idiot dead, he’d be dead long before.
I don’t really think this is valid reasoning tbh. Governments can kill people at a whim, but frequently do not because they would rather they die over time through conditions such as prisons. There are other factors they consider apart from simply wanting him dead. They don’t need to have killed his directly. It could simply be the result of mental and physical health issues due to his imprisonment. Life expectancy in prisons is markedly lower for a reason.
I’ve seen takes that he was killed by the West to blame Putin, but I haven’t really seen any actual hard evidence for this
Western governments want Assange dead. So by that logic he’d be dead long before now. He’s not, but I’m not about to conclude that the US gov doesn’t want Assange in an anonymous ditch. There are plenty of revolutionaries being let to rot in US prisons from the previous decades. It’s just killing them in slow motion.
At the end of the day we don’t have objective info to allow us to conclude one way or another as to exactly why he’s dead, and both the West and Russia are obviously deeply biased sources.
Western media are really bad at this. Whenever they are dealing with political struggles in countries outside their Aryan garden, they immediately reduce everything down to a simple binary of pro-western/pro-democracy/anti-corruption Vs. pro-BadCountry/authoritarian/corrupt.
Yeah it’s also crazy when you realize instinctual it is. Like I don’t think all the dolts at the Guardian pumping out ink for the ink god really reflectively think ‘we have to craft this manichean narrative for the sake of liberalism’ given that’s not actually how ideology generally works. I have no doubt (actually, I know from personal experience) that it you push narrative which don’t conform you will sometimes get responses which straight-up make no reference to the truth of the matter but explicitly reject what youre saying because its politically inconvenient. That being said, it is fascinating and disturbing of reflexive and instinctual these kinds of responses are in general culture, and how little most people in liberal societies are either willing or capable of critically analyzing and evaluating this kind of stuff. Like they could just read what Putin says to get a more accurate account of the Russian state’s motivations for their actions.
World News having the expected meltdown. No early weekend for people working in Langley.
Shoutout to the people on reddit who ‘vividly remember the day he was poisoned’ and to those saying he would be the Russian Mandela, bringing peace and justice to Russia.
I still can’t believe he’s gone, he was such an inspiration for western media
Ukrainians celebrating lmao
rare ukrain w
Can we even say the one and only ukrain w?
no, we cant
Ukrainians aren’t wrong to celebrate. Navalny would’ve conducted total war against Ukraine if he somehow came into power.
Definitely and im sure it was intended.
The way i see it, the plan was to keep building the war capabilities of Ukraine while trying to destabilize Russia with fascists like Navalny, fascists are very easy to manipulate and predict. Having fascists factions in Russia would’ve inevitably led to an internal conflict because of the huge cultural diversity in Russia. A more armed Ukraine wouldve seized the chance with the backing of NATO.
Needless to say, the SMO caught the west by surprise and, with how its going, will end up ruining whatever they had planned in the region.
I was confused for a second, then remembered he allegedly supported the Crimea affair
All of the most popular subreddits are talking about Navalny’s death as if he was some kind of hero. It is impressive how propaganda can PR this dude’s image into a fantastical hero/human that liberals can look up to. Truly disgusting how libs fall for this
Trudeau being annoying about this, what else is new:
Hmm, three paragraphs of about that size is pretty typical for chatGPT.
Where was this outrage when Evo Morales or Lula were ousted? Oh that’s right, he supported the fascists.
Canadians and supporting fascism, what’s a more iconic North American Duo
Obviously the Biden administration and supporting fascism lmao
Unwavering advocate for Russian democracy and freedom
Freedom to do what, shoot the Caucasians?
Is there anyone taking him seriously after paying homage to a literal nazi collaborator?
We only take him seriously because he’s the leader of this country, nothing else. If he lacked executive powers people would probably care less. Then again, our local MPs are tweeting about Navalny too and stirring up trouble so…. Our entire government is a circus.
Why does it sound like he had chatGPT write this eulogy for him?
A lot of his tweets are written this way, at least in my opinion. Maybe that’s just how he is or he really does use ChatGPT.
Aren’t the sources for machine learning and ai things that already exist? If you feed liberal drivel into an AI, won’t it give you more liberal drivel?
Both your questions are correct, but to me it’s the manner of speech above all. “reports are [two adjectives]”, “let this be an important reminder”,
Maybe Putin killed him, maybe he didn’t. But wasn’t he in jail for 2 years? Why wait so long for a hit?
I believe he had issues throughout his captivity. Sickness, hunger strike, that kind of stuff. I don’t think he got a five star hotel treatment either and eventually your health becomes at several risk. Or maybe Putin just killed him.
It’s not just the ~300 days in prison. It’s not like it was hard to kill him at any point prior. Not to mention the dumb fuck did more to die himself with that “poisoning”(probably an OD).
Honestly, I don’t see a single reason why Putin would do it. The situation was perfect for him as it was - Navalny was largely forgotten and had no bearing on anything. If anything, he won’t appreciate a minor shitstorm on the Internet a month before the elections.
But hey, “great” people can’t just die of health issues, it’s always someone!
I think the simplest explanation is that Russian prisons, like most other prisons, are simply bad for your health in general, especially if it is weakened by an OD/poisoning/whatever. It would make more sense for the yanks to kill him than it would for Putin (who would have gained more from people simply forgetting about him), although it seems lightly implausible (but not impossible) that they infiltrated a Siberian penal colony just to kill a guy so he could be used as a martyr.
although it seems lightly implausible (but not impossible) that they infiltrated a Siberian penal colony just to kill a guy so he could be used as a martyr.
Well, they wouldn’t have to, really. It’s not that hard to pay a crooked prison guard these days. But yeah, my money’s on a prison beyond the polar circle being bad for you, especially when you’re not that healthy to begin with, as well.
I saw the lemmy thread for this and it was full of shit-for-brains liberals mourning his loss despite the fact they have zero idea who he was. At least they stopped once the comment explaining who he was got to the top.
At least they stopped once the comment explaining who he was got to the top
I’m surprised. Usually even when you do explain, it gets handwaved away with “lesser evilism”
Blairite labour are all posting their little eulogies about him, claiming that he was a hero of democracy. But, like, Navalny was a Neo-Nazi he wasn’t gonna democratise shit. Like, why hitch your wagon to one of the Russian politicians more reactionary than Putin, especially now he’s dead?
Because when they say “democratise”, they actually mean “privatise everything and start selling out to international financial capital”. Don’t forget: nazis were a tool of the bourgeoisie to clamp down on proletariat and ensure private profits
I understand why the liberals disingenuously label live Nazis as freedom fighters, like, they do it so often that at this point I wonder if it’s an involuntary reflex for them to cheer when they see a swastika.
I don’t understand why they’re still doing it now he’s dead and therefore no longer any use to them.
A dead martyr is more useful than a live one, sometimes
NATO monkey brain short circuits to pitting nazis against Russia. Any other logic or consideration is immediately hurled out of the window.
cool
I can’t be too hard on him. In hindsight I guess it’s easy to say he shouldn’t have died in prison, but I’m sure he had his reasons.
What a coincidence, just yesterday I saw some idiots in comments on r*ddit mentioning him, which was also posted here and just today we get yet another gender-neutral bathroom in Russia!
Looks like protests have erupted since this happened, with some protest signs are in english, and people are getting arrested too. Does anyone know what going on with that?
Sounds like a spontaneous opportunistic NED/CIA/western-billionaire-NGO colour revolution attempt to me.
That was my immediate thought too. The English signs threw me off the most, it’s not like they need to reach a wider audience so what gives? It’s very fishy…
Signs in English used to be quite widespread in such gatherings. Same with pro-EU “protests” in Georgia, Armenia and back in 2014 in Ukraine.
Yeah and the smell of money was always following them right to the Washington.
English signs can mean two things:
- They want “the international community” (
) to notice them and do something.
- It is a lot easier to get the guys in Langley to approve your slogans when you don’t try to make them read a foreign language.
I reckon that neither is going to convince any significant number of Russians of anything other than the fact that these libs are making fools of themselves.
- They want “the international community” (
Does anyone know what going on with that?
Not much. I found numbers from 55 to 400 arrested country-wide in two days. They’ll get 20 days and a fine at the very worst. I think you can surmise how widespread and consequential these protests are. As I saw someone say on TG Navalny’s hamsters remaining in the country can probably be caught on one camera shot from a drone if they were in one place.
So a small group going feral for Western propaganda? Very cool…