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Does Lemmy need to grow for some reason? Sometimes I swear I can feel the Reddit community toxicity seeping in and its really disappointing. Honestly, for me personally if Lemmy continued on exactly as it is today, I’d be perfectly content.
That said, if there are benefits to growth beyond the wide scope of mass adoption fucking over the proprietary social medias I’m all ears.
I’d like some niche communities to be more active, and realistically speaking that’s only going to happen with a bigger userbase.
Well it’s not really just about making you happy, the project is about displacing corporate controlled media so that community projects and social movements can flourish allowing us up create a better world for all.
I myself have very elitist and isolationist tendencies but I think it’s important to set them aside somewhat for the common good.
We can always crawl further in to hide from scary normal people, but the normal people need this type of platform too. We can just subscribe to our nerdy communities and stop browsing all or everything once there is too much stuff to browse that way anyway.
I understand what are you saying but forget about overall size of the community for a second, what lemmy would really benefit from is more niche subreddits with active users. That will only come from more people on lemmy and that is the real reason to desire lemmy growth besides a basic wish for other people to not be stuck in a shitty corporate silo.
Lemmy doesn’t have the niche communities that Reddit did, and those come with a larger user base.
Lemmy has plenty of memes, politics, Linux, and anime, but there are many small communities which do not (yet) have active equivalents here.
Here are a few of my own examples, but everyone will have their own unique list: r/wheresthebeef, r/Penderwicks, r/twistypuzzles, r/Cubers, r/fusion, r/legoRockets, r/HarryPotteronHBO, r/anarchycubing, r/deextinction, r/cubinggore.
I would welcome more users if it means more niche communities.
There’s still a ton of niche subreddits that there’s no viable replacement for here.
I come after the great reddit API purge. Haven’t looked back and I’m happy for it.
I’ve gotten part of my life back as a result.
It’s surprising the psychological difference of “net seventeen people think you’re an asshole” vs “twenty people think you’re an asshole, but three people get you”.
FYI, a browser plugin called Reddit Enhancement Suite (RES) exposed the vote breakdown on Reddit as well, although like all scores on reddit, it was fuzzed to confound cheaters.
Me as well. I occasionally peak back to some niche subreddits, but don’t contribute anymore. I’m hoping some pop up here over time.
What are some you’d like to see?
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I feel like the sports communities are lacking critical mass and for some reason I just don’t see content from some of the small communities (specifically magic the gathering for me) pop up on my feed. Like it’d be nice the algo pushed them more since I am subbed and want to participate.
for some reason I just don’t see content from some of the small communities
That’s odd. Do they at least show up in your home feed if you sort by new?
Hmmm yeah that seems to do the trick. mtg isn’t that active but I see some other the other niche coms when I sort that way.
You could also try the Scaled algorithm, which was recently added with the new update. It’s supposed to adjust for the size of the community so that the posts from large communities don’t overwhelm your feed
That worked! Thanks for the tip.
I miss a lot of the niche hobby subs, the non-image sex related subs, justrolledintotheshop, *swap subs, and some of the *sales subs. I have other forums where I can fulfill some of these and it was nice to have them all in one place.
I’d like there to be an active beer money community and also one for foster parents myself. Those were quite useful on Reddit.
According to: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=270 the monthly active users are still in decline… even if we take into account the new way of counting active users, the previous bump comes from v0.19 being added to other servers
Part of it could be that people post less during the holidays and there is a significant portion of people who browse sites like reddit/Lemmy during their downtime at work.
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I remember people winning that lemmy is on its decline already. We are back and here to stay
I don’t think that initial peak was ever “real” anyway. I think it was due to people creating multiple accounts on different instances (or maybe even claiming multiple usernames on the same instance) before settling down with the one account they were actually going to consistently use.
Definitely at least part of it was people who came to try it out and left (back to Reddit or wherever).
And your case too. I also did it. But we’d be 100% speculating if either of us guessed which was more common and how much.
Yeah that’s me. I signed up for and used beehaw for a month before switching to my current lemmy.ca. My old account would definitely be counted the same way as someone who signed up, got bored and left
I shortly used lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works before settling on lemmy.ca as well
There are definitely people that bounced off Lemmy for whatever reason. No idea how many though, I myself had 4 accounts on various instances before I settled on this one.
Don’t wanna do the ‘ackshually’ thing but it’s a little confusing so, I think you meant whining?
Thanks. I edited it because I sea it’s confusing (different from the typo in this comment)
Ehhhhhhhhhh… Considering activity was on a slow decline Sept-Dec (not counting August->Sept due to i-think bot-spam issues in the count)
The numbers didn’t really grow until the method to count active users was modified. We won’t know the impacts of growth/decline for another 2-3 months at least.
Yeah it’s weird to act like people were being unreasonable for pointing out that Lemmy was on a decline when the numbers quite literally showed a decline.
doesn’t feel as active as the numbers suggest, that’s still an issue.
worth noting to those people who will read this and go: “I should browse
/Alland post nonsense everywhere to boost activity!”, please don’t. A community with a bunch of uninformed discussion is just as dead as a community with no comments.
How many are bots
Everyone except you is a bot.
I’m not even sure about you tbh.
User name checks out 😄
Barely any since fedidb excludes botted instances
The increase here though is cause lemmy.world upgraded to 0.19 and 0.19 includes voters as active users
If you were in reality a bot, are you confident that you would know?
“The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t. Not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that?”
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Someone has to make the Good Bot bot, I dont have the knowhow sadly
I assume this latest bump is due to lemmy.world updating and now counting lurkers when assessing active users.
Its still only voters, lurkers that dont do any actions arent counted
Don’t forget that Reddit was made up of 90% lurkers, and less than 1% of active posters, the rest would comment but rarely post themselves. These numbers are great if we keep those statistics in mind
Commenters were already counted, though, so this bump is really just the vote-only population getting added. Which is still important to maintaining a healthy and varied front-page, mind you.
Why are they not separated out in any way? There should be separate bins for “active posters” “active commenters” and “active voters”. Otherwise you’re going to get some wacky data problems like this.
I think of a lurker as someone who doesn’t post - I guess your definition is someone who doesn’t interact at all (besides making an account and subscribing, I assume). But yes, I mean users who only vote are now counted (it’s not using views afaik).
Pretty sure it’s the jean/bean memes
Probably a lot more to do with people being pissed about reddit going public and selling their data to ai companies for profits.
I’d like to think that too but I still go to Reddit and browsed a lot of those threads. In almost all of them, people were making the claim that there was nowhere to go, with maybe the occasional person chiming in to name-drop Lemmy, followed by a couple more comments from people bad-mouthing it.
People are definitely mad at Reddit but there does seem to still be this overall sense that Lenny is not good enough yet
Lemmy is more work to get on and then find an apk to use. There needs to just be a simple and clear instruction set to get people over. Like a link to an instance they can easily join and here’s a good app to use. Sort by /all and top from last 24 hours.
Right now there are waaaay less users, so content is low compared to reddit, and you can’t just create your own sub at the drop of a hat.
Encouraging everyone onto a single instance kinda defeats the purpose, and I feel it’s not as much of an issue with the new join-lemmy.com redesign, which recommends an instance based on your interests.
I wrote up this post for anyone to reference to help onboard people to lemmy.
I guess, but I haven’t noticed a whole lot of point in picking an instance of interest, since a small amount of content comes from them all right now. I added a ton of instances to my feed so I’ve never noticed tchncs prioritized or specific to myself.
If everyone dogpiles into a single generic instance, it could push that instance into unsustainable territory financially (especially with a mass exodus), unless the user base is willing to donate to support the instance. Spreading the load out over many instances would ease the load on any one server admin.
Maybe make an auto sorting pool that instances sign up for and just evenly assign new users an instance, so they don’t even have to “try hard” to choose one, then?
Definitely.
For a daily view: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats
My internet experience has been slower since switching to Mastodon and Lemmy/Kbin. And it’s so nice. The things I see are more interesting. The conversations are usually more well thought out. And lowest common denominator dopamine content isn’t being driven into my eyeballs by Algorithms. I’ve legitimately been happier since the Reddit API debacle.
Long live the Old Internet.
Seriously, it feels like 1999 internet. And I’m loving it!
Now give us EverQuest for that proper 1999 experience!
Ever try Project 1999?
Seriously, it feels like 1999 internet. And I’m loving it!
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Super, super impressive.
Most web apps, especially social media - get that peak and then have this huge falloff (see Threads for a particularly grisly example). Lemmy seems really good at keeping its user base.
It reminds me that I need to contribute posts more often myself. I’m think the only reason I ever go back to reddit is that it has some specialized subs we just don’t have here yet. But sometimes you have to start posting to an audience of 0 to get things going.
the only reason I ever go back to reddit is that it has some specialized subs we just don’t have here yet. But sometimes you have to start posting to an audience of 0 to get things going.
Same. I’ve had some success with starting or reviving communities just by posting and commenting regularly, interspersed with a few cross-posts to related communities. Be the change you want to see in the world, and I hope more users will come!
I feel like a big hurdle is the way you have to type out cross posts. There was just something elegant about Reddits solution: /r/subreddit.
I feel like a big hurdle is the way you have to type out cross posts.
What typing are you referring to? I just click the cross-post button, which seems to do most of the work of filling in the title and URL fields, quoting the body text, etc.
I do wish that cross-posts were more embedded though, like Reddit cross-posts. It currently seems that if the original post is edited, these changes to not propagate to any cross-posts.
I’m pretty sure that 130 million monthly users was the absolute peak, which lasted for all of about 5 days.
See:
https://www.similarweb.com/amp/blog/insights/social-media-news/threads-first-month/
That’s old data. Threads suffered for a month but was fine. This is more recent. 141 million MAU https://famewall.io/statistics/threads-stats/
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