- cross-posted to:
- technology@beehaw.org
- fediverse@kbin.social
- fediverse@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- technology@beehaw.org
- fediverse@kbin.social
- fediverse@lemmy.ml
Highlighting the recent report of users and admins being unable to delete images, and how Trust & Safety tooling is currently lacking.
Oh hey it’s the article that drove me to become a sponsor of the lemmy project, for every demand and complaint there are many of us who are in solidarity with Lemmy devs and I’m happy to provide material support. This isn’t a business and this is a website to use for fun. There is no way GDPR would ever apply to this, it would require a complaint with merit and the instance owners to refuse to cooperate. There are no enforcement actions on GDPR against private individuals that don’t also include criminal charges in the EU. You can literally look up every GDPR enforcement action.
Also it’s March not February
GDPR applies to any entity that processes personal data. That includes instance owners. In fact of you look up GDPR enforcements you can that it’s also enforced against private persons.
Maybe re-read what I said. I dare you to find an enforcement against a private person without a criminal charge and a refusal to cooperate. Legal regulations like this is a risk assessment, I’d take this risk. This is hobby software and if a GDPR regulator some how found me and talked to me I’d just cooperate and not get fined, additionally you can after the fact delete your instance. Lemmy isn’t business critical or in any way critical, its hobby software.
Maybe you should reread what you wrote? You said there’s no way GDPR would ever apply. I said it does. You said there are no enforceable actions, there are. the part you thought makes you right is the “criminal charges” part but that makes zero sense to begin with because GDPR, as an EU wide regulation, imposes only fines and no criminal charges.
Apply meaning being applied to you by a human regulator regulating a lemmy instance. This will never happen.
Again, look up the enforcement actions again the private individuals who got pinned for GDPR, they have all also been tried in Spanish and Portuguese courts for other criminal offenses that had the regulators take a look at them and what they are doing. There are actual GDPR offenses that never get regulated. The company I work for literally just ignores it and no one has ever found out. Why? Because we made the risk assessment of a EU citizen actually having a problem, suing us, then having a regulator contact us, and then actually begin investigating us to levy a fine is actually really low despite the fact you think EU regulators are somehow omniscient. The fact that you think they’re going to regulate a Lemmy instance is just not grounded in reality. It is concern trolling.
GDPR absolutely applies to Lemmy, it’s just that nobody has looked at it / there wasn’t a complaint. When that happens, lemmy will be in trouble.
It isn’t that it doesn’t “apply” it is that there won’t be any enforcement. These are different concepts. The world involves risk assessment and this is a risk I’d take.
There will be enforcement if one asshole reports instances. Are you certain nobody will get disgruntled and report it?
I’m certain that report would most likely not lead to an investigation. Again, you can only get fined if you refuse to cooperate, why wouldn’t the instance owner just cooperate? There is nothing at stake here, there is no money being made on this.
You don’t really know what you are talking about, these aren’t Youtube copyright strikes. These are auditors and regulators who are disorganized, understaffed and underfunded, like every government agency in the world, who deal mostly with huge enterprises. All audits and regulations are a risk assessment and anyone who understands the actual risks can make a decision if they want to host or not. As someone who deals with auditors and regulators a lot, and understands risk and risk assessments, I would totally feel extremely comfortable hosting a Lemmy instance despite the software having some limitations.
But you have a child’s understanding of the world and the law and are just a concern troll.
Yeah uh huh, I sure do suck mr random person on the internet. The only thing you are saying is “these people won’t audit lemmy because they don’t want to”. You think that in some magical way, lemmy will be immune. Guess what, it won’t. The fines aren’t simply because people aren’t cooperating (and the devs themselves said that they don’t care about GDPR outright). You don’t know how it works, all you do is wishful thinking and insulting others.