Try asking those who believe Man has a significant effect on global warming a simple question. Tell me exactly and specifically what changes you propose. And then tell me exactly and specifically what results we will see and in what time period due solely to those changes. File this under makes you feel good about yourself but accomplishes nothing but higher energy prices.
Honest discussion means… you have to totally agree with my position. They are incapable of having a debate of facts and proven outcomes. You would think that if a person firmly believed in a policy that they would be glad to prove those who disagree wrong with facts.
It means a slowed increase in temperature which means safety for coastal areas, a slowed increase in extreme weather events - there are a lot of proposals out there and studies on their effect. You just seen to want to say fuck it, I don’t want to change or pay slightly more for energy or change your actions.
If our species cared about our species’ future, we would live with whatever energy generation our only habitat could environmentally tolerate/sustain, and we clearly wouldn’t have bred to the point the point that the planet is pushing back. Instead we STILL demand growth/metastasis. “growth or die!” Oh the delicious gallows irony. Homeostasis should have been our species’ business, but that ship has sailed.
Humans are so self-important that we don’t even seem to care about how fragile our situation is, and we all know at some level we’re going to be our own end.
I’ve been calling it human exceptionalism. If we found an organism that drives 150 other species extinct a day we would do our best to eradicate it permanently, but it’s us so we ignore it.
Humans have never cared for other humans. We are simply incapable of that. If we could, we wouldn’t be waging wars, committing genocide , fucking up our environment, all of which are detrimental to us first. Humans will be one of the first species to kill each other, once water shortage starts. By the time, avg temperature increase reaches 2 degree celsius, vast majority of humans will be dead, due to drought, storms and floods. Nature will adapt, it will not be easy, but nature always adapts. Humanity as a whole has forgotten how to adapt because in our arrogance we think we can adapt nature to our requirements by throwing money. But, that is a fallacy. Nature always wins, simply because nature can adapt.
Want a simple change? Stop using fossil fuels. We had 50 years to come up with a solution, but some rich assholes and their bootlickers (like you) decided we don’t deserve a solution because their bottom line is more important than the survival of the entire species. But, this is nothing new. This was previously done by Big Tobacco and Big Sugar, perhaps even more.
Stop burning fossil fuels and engage a massive tree planting program. No, you don’t deserve your vacations, consumer goods shipped from halfway across the planet, or any of the other modern convinces invented since the Industrial Revolution. We’ve had our chance to keep those things while shifting to green methods, but we always choose the cheapest method and now we’re in the Finding Out stage.
Try asking those who believe Man has a significant effect on global warming a simple question. Tell me exactly and specifically what changes you propose. And then tell me exactly and specifically what results we will see and in what time period due solely to those changes. File this under makes you feel good about yourself but accomplishes nothing but higher energy prices.
No more children allowed. The problem will solve itself in a hundred years and the earth can begin its millions-of-years recovery process.
Stopping people like you from using oxygen would be my first proposed measure :)
When they cannot debate with facts they threaten those who dare disagree with them
Who’s “they”, Mikey? Be clear, Mikey.
Your ilk doesn’t deserve a chance at discourse, because you don’t engage in honest discussion.
Honest discussion means… you have to totally agree with my position. They are incapable of having a debate of facts and proven outcomes. You would think that if a person firmly believed in a policy that they would be glad to prove those who disagree wrong with facts.
Regressivist scum says what?
Almost funny how the clueless and uninformed always are left with name calling. Just like in grammar school
It means a slowed increase in temperature which means safety for coastal areas, a slowed increase in extreme weather events - there are a lot of proposals out there and studies on their effect. You just seen to want to say fuck it, I don’t want to change or pay slightly more for energy or change your actions.
If our species cared about our species’ future, we would live with whatever energy generation our only habitat could environmentally tolerate/sustain, and we clearly wouldn’t have bred to the point the point that the planet is pushing back. Instead we STILL demand growth/metastasis. “growth or die!” Oh the delicious gallows irony. Homeostasis should have been our species’ business, but that ship has sailed.
Humans are so self-important that we don’t even seem to care about how fragile our situation is, and we all know at some level we’re going to be our own end.
I’ve been calling it human exceptionalism. If we found an organism that drives 150 other species extinct a day we would do our best to eradicate it permanently, but it’s us so we ignore it.
well put.
We’re like a bacterial infection on Earth. We won’t kill the host but it’s already permanently damaged.
Humans have never cared for other humans. We are simply incapable of that. If we could, we wouldn’t be waging wars, committing genocide , fucking up our environment, all of which are detrimental to us first. Humans will be one of the first species to kill each other, once water shortage starts. By the time, avg temperature increase reaches 2 degree celsius, vast majority of humans will be dead, due to drought, storms and floods. Nature will adapt, it will not be easy, but nature always adapts. Humanity as a whole has forgotten how to adapt because in our arrogance we think we can adapt nature to our requirements by throwing money. But, that is a fallacy. Nature always wins, simply because nature can adapt.
Cool. We deserve to pay out the nose to wreck this place. It fucking should cost us.
Want a simple change? Stop using fossil fuels. We had 50 years to come up with a solution, but some rich assholes and their bootlickers (like you) decided we don’t deserve a solution because their bottom line is more important than the survival of the entire species. But, this is nothing new. This was previously done by Big Tobacco and Big Sugar, perhaps even more.
Try asking those who copy-paste bullshit… why are you copy-pasting bullshit?
Stop burning fossil fuels and engage a massive tree planting program. No, you don’t deserve your vacations, consumer goods shipped from halfway across the planet, or any of the other modern convinces invented since the Industrial Revolution. We’ve had our chance to keep those things while shifting to green methods, but we always choose the cheapest method and now we’re in the Finding Out stage.