• gmtom@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    It’s because safe tweets gets promoted more and people care about chasing clout.

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    I’ve recently joined Tumblr, and like this has been the best social media I’ve ever joined, just what I asked to be shown, no annoying recommendations that are the complete opposite of what i like or it’s just plain ragebait

    The amount of actually nice posts is really cool

    And from what I’ve heard their data collection is decent, not a personal data vacuum like other sites

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      Yeah… Um… I got Bluesky for that. Tumblr doesn’t allow for adult content. Plenty of artwork I make falls under adult content and is occasionally straight up porn. Many artists I follow also create a mix of SFW and NSFW content. Being on a place like Tumblr essentially means losing nearly half the art i can post or follow. So… No thank you.

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          Reddit also pigeonholed their pornographic content.

          I see far more poen on Lemmy, especially with how much AI content is posted here.

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            I don’t care about prn on platforms I’d actually like to use on a daily basis, you know why YouTube is the only big video sharing site? All the other ones either did something stupid or allowed prn on the site, and you don’t really want to use a site where there’s a chance of porn showing up in public, I like that p*rn is kind of restricted on lemmy too (all I know about is like one instance that allows it, all other don’t, or at least which I know of)

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            The day Lemmy has as much quality nsfw as Reddit or even oldschool Tumblr is the day I quit Reddit. Today is not that day :(

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              I’ve had a lot easier time finding new porn groups here, but you’re right that the content mill over there is faster.

              After reddit sold their user content to AI groups and the obvious use of AI for moderation, I’m not interested in reddit.

              Shit, my last account was banned for reporting violent content written by others. They said I was abusing the report system lmao.

              Literally submitted 5 reports over the lifespan of the account (maybe a year or two old account, not that old). 3 were acted on, and the 4th one was on r/worldnews. The mods of the sub banned me from the sub, then reported it to the admins and had me banned from reddit.

              That site sucks ass, I’m hoping to find a better maintained forum, but it’s a pain in the ass nowadays.

              Either pure corporate bullshit or some tyranny of lunacy.

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          I’d say the fact that they banned porn says about as much about tumblr as having the above poster’s enmity says about them, so I’d go with an even 50/50 on this one.

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              they banned porn because they were bought out by the owners of wordpress, and the kerfuffle with credit card companies suddenly refusing payments on pornhub had just happened. the stated reason was so they don’t step in some unseen controversy and get blackballed by mastercard, which is a bit prudish if you ask me.

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                The main problem with porn is moderating it. Especially having to watch something to determine whether or not it’s csam. It’s easier to just ban porn. It’s a big hassle whenever your site isn’t supposed to be a porn site.

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                  and therein lies the crux of the issue. lots of folks who were around before the porn ban would argue that the smut was integral to tumblr’s identity; that the tumblr we have today is just a shadow of what it once was.

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    Those are some really excellent points I agree with, and think the world, for humans included, would be a kinder place.

    I sometimes do forget to order people to shut several fucks up, what a bunch of dickish cunts all of them. Well, cuntish dicks too.

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    I think it has more to do with how not taking violent threats seriously enough has led to escalation into real world violence.

    Say cunt and whatever but this is a pretty tone deaf post in a world where the Myanmar Genocide, enabled significantly by Facebook’s lax moderation practices, is ongoing.

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      This may be because tumblr is more culturally homogenous and you can tell when someone is serious. There’s no way to tell with crackpots on Facebook

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      In case Im not the only one who’s heard of this for the first time:

      “In 2017, the Rohingya were killed, tortured, raped, and displaced in the thousands as part of the Myanmar security forces’ campaign of ethnic cleansing. In the months and years leading up to the atrocities, Facebook’s algorithms were intensifying a storm of hatred against the Rohingya which contributed to real-world violence,” said Agnès Callamard, Amnesty International’s Secretary General.

      From: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/

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        You’re not alone. It rung a bell somewhere in the back of my head, but I couldn’t remember pretty much anything about it and was about to search it up myself.

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      There’s a difference between moderation and censorship of “bad words”. I can call for the violent genocide of another people without a single “bad word”, but I can also praise humanity using nothing but curses.

      The underlying problem is, that moderation serves the interests of advertisers, not people. KFC will happily advertise between calls to genocide in a third world country- it’s finger chopping good. But if someone says fuck next to a coke bottle, the apocalypse is near.

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        I can also praise humanity using nothing but curses.

        I’m throwing down the challenge flag on this one.

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          Here’s ChatGPT’s take:

          “Holy shit, humanity, you foul-mouthed bunch of magnificent misfits! Against all the goddamn odds, you’ve managed to build wonders that would make even the universe blush with envy! You’ve taken the raw sewage of existence and spun it into the finest silk of civilization, you sons of bitches! Your resilience is tougher than a two-dollar steak, and your ingenuity is sharper than a box of goddamn razor blades! You’ve danced with death, spat in the face of despair, and flipped the bird to fate itself! You’re a bunch of crazy, chaotic, beautiful motherfuckers, and I wouldn’t have it any other way! Keep on raising hell and blazing trails, you magnificent bastards!”

          Kinda meh…

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        That doesn’t sound like an underlying problem that sounds like a coincidence and like greedy idjits doing the thing in the wrong way

        Like yeah, content that doesn’t call for genocide is also more advertiser friendly in addition to being safer for marginalized communities in the real world.

        I think the solution is a moderating format that involves more open source work, assign accounts a value that weighs their reports by how serious the accusation is, but also by how often they’ve turned up credible reports in the past, have the report come with three parts, the reported post or comment, the rule or rules the reporter think it violates, and a text box for them to give some explanation of why they think it breaks the rules in case it isn’t obvious.

        Once someone has a high enough rating and volume for reports, earmark them to become a paid moderator.

        Und voilà, you have home grown community moderators familiar with the rules and with sneaky ways bad actors try to get around them, along with a process to quickly get more whenever you launch in a new community.

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    Have to admit I would not like to perish on the floor groveling like an animal.

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    This website is already facing these kinds of issues.

    There is a super mod on lemmy.world (jordanlund) who is blatantly manipulating posts with moderation and banning people who call him out.

    The dude threatened me directly for calling him on it.

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        Apparently, disagreeing with him and his usage of moderation tools to spread propoganda is ban worthy.

        The dude just banned me from 4 different subs he moderates for commenting on his moderation.

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            https://lemm.ee/comment/10005304

            My first encounter with them. Where they are spreading misinformation and limiting input of others with moderation action. I start calling them on it there.

            https://lemm.ee/comment/10028496

            Here is the thread they start purging for calling their moderation actions out. Idk if there is a way to see deleted comments, but if so, do it. You won’t find anything except for me calling him on his moderation.

            Pretty sure one of the comments in there has me providing more links to actual moderation actions.

            Just go disagree with the dude on something and start seeing old unrelated comments getting deleted.

            Once you call him on it, he will start messing with your old comments in other subs.

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      Generally when you make these kind of accusations, its polite to provide some evidence of your claims. There is a pretty large gray area that exists when moderating subs like worldnews and politics, so such communities are almost constantly beset with accusations of some type of bias.

      Modlogs exist, if he has clearly been manipulating posts then it shouldn’t be hard to find the evidence.

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        I’ve already had this conversation yesterday and provided links. Check my comment history and the mod log, why rely on a biased source provided by me when you can just verify the truth for yourself?

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          I’m going to tell people a really unfair thing happened to me, then get shitty when concerned people ask for details.

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            Get shitty? I told them not to trust the narrative I’m painting and to self verify against my claims. I also told them the specific locations of where my sourced arguments could be found and rewrote most of it below in a different comment.

            Don’t inject your shitty attitude into my comment, please, and thank you.

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          Looks like you had a pointless, circular argument with another user 5 days ago and he nuked the thread because it was going nowhere. I’m okay with that. Then when you brought it up today, a different mod removed some of those comments.

          When you say he’s manipulating posts, it implies he has some kind of agenda. If his agenda is to remove unproductive and hostile discussion from the sub, then I support his agenda. You implied it’s some kind of political bias, but I don’t see any evidence of that.

          I think he probably just wants you to be more polite in your tone.

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            You are looking at the wrong purged threads. I’m implying he is abusing mod powers for 2 functions.

            1. Is to harrass people he disagrees with. That is the thread you are looking at. There was no rule breaking content, but he wanted to scrub comments from my history and that was 1 session he did it too. There are 3 other subreddits he took action like that against me.

            2. Is his political engagement. He scrubs comments that call out his misinformation as he did in the other thread shared.

            I called him on point 2 so he started doing point 1 to me.