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You were downvoted by the Tesla fanboys.
I already knew I wasn’t going to get a Tesla because I refuse to drive anything with a gigantic iPad instead of a proper dashboard with physical controls. The Musk bullshit just cemented that decision.
We’re making our last payment on our EV this month, and a few weeks ago I brought up the idea of maybe trading it in for a newer EV, since our current one was starting to show signs of possible battery degradation and it’s a Leaf that’s stuck with CHAdeMO charging instead of CCS/NACS charging. My husband asked me what car we’d consider replacing it with, and the instant I floated maybe looking at a used Tesla, my husband barked back “Absolutely NOT!” And the thing was, I couldn’t find myself disagreeing, either.
I know that my husband and I are far from the only ones who think the same way.
A year ago it was a joke at my (IS) office how much I dislike Musk. Now his dickery is part of the zeitgeist and it is such a weight off my shoulders that I can stop being the only local champion of this cause.
Seems like he is smelling his own fart and really enjoying it in the photo
“Ahhhhh, this is what god must be smelling like”
A friend bought a Tesla that came with a defective rear window from the factory, they found out when opening the door at home. A tech came out and sealed the door shut so the car could be used. It took 10 months before the car was repaired and the door was usable.
Their next purchase was not a Tesla, future purchases will not be a Tesla ever again. Just by the quality of their product.
Regardless, Musk is a douche nozzle.
He’s damaging the company’s finances in other ways now too.
He sold a bunch of Tesla stock (admittedly his right to do so) to buy Twitter. However, now he’s demanding the board give him more stock so he’ll have more control back. Uh, Mr. Musk, you HAD the stock and control, but you traded it away to buy a social media platform. No one made you do that. Further, why should the company give you more stock when another social media platform may catch your eye and you sell all your stock again. You just can’t be trusted with it after your past behavior with it.
No thank you. No more Tesla control for you Mr. Musk.
How does the board “give” him stock? Isn’t all of the stock owned by individuals? The board are a bunch of high-tier investors right?
Isn’t all of the stock owned by individuals?
Not usually. A company can issue stock, but never sell it. This is called “Treasury Stock”. Further if the company doesn’t have any Treasury Stock, they can choose to issue new rounds of stock diluting the per share value of existing shares. The good reasons to do this is to raise capital needed for new investments by the company. Alternatively the company could issue a “stock split” which creates double amount of shares as a way to intentionally cut the value per share in half (doubling the amount of share in the company).
However, none of these are a good thing to do for an employee (Musk) because they sold too much of their own pile of stock to buy a failing social media company.
Not really a stock guy, so sorry for a potentially ignorant question, but wouldnt that basically reduce the % of ownership every stockholder has? I understand how that works with splitting stock, since you dont actually loose any % you just have twice the amount of stock with half %. but couldnt a company just “steal itself away” from its stockholders that way?
To be fair, while they didn’t “make” him buy Twitter, they did twist his arm pretty good when presenting his options. Either it was a major federal financial crime, or he actually meant it and he was totally gonna follow through with it.
He wasn’t forced to go down the waterslide until he tried to stop halfway down.
To be fair, while they didn’t “make” him buy Twitter,
The “they” in your sentence was the SEC, not Tesla Inc.
Why should Tesla Inc be forced to part with more stock given to Mr. Musk to compensate for consequences of Mr. Musk’s own actions wholly separate from his duties and responsibilities at Tesla Inc?
You mean he said a bunch of stupid shit that got him an a legal bind? Yeah still his fault.
He thought he could pull a fast one, fucked around and found out.
Then made it Tesla shareholders problem by cashing out tens of billions of Tesla stock.
I bought my first electric car in December 2023. I ruled Tesla out because of Elon Musk.
Nice. What’d’ya get?
Went with the Ioniq 5. 5k miles in and I love it.
Bought mine back in October. Tesla was permanently off the table, first because of Elon, then second from all of the QA issues, shoddy quality, and months long waits to fix anything needing parts.
I went for a Hyundai Ioniq 6 instead. Absolutely love it.
Hey that’s our train of thought! Shopping now and it seems like a great contender.
I was also considering buying an electric car and immediately ruled it out because of him. Why should I line his pockets? Also I read a lot of bad coverage on their cars in general. I think people are starting to see through the fog that they are not good cars.
There are plenty of non-Tesla electrics on the market now. And they’re much better cars to boot. You might look into one of those.
Unfortunately, some areas have standardized on Tesla charging stations for all electric cars, so you’re giving him money no matter what.
Yeah, it’s basically the US standard at this point, I know. But at least you don’t have to drive his car.
All charging stations in the US will about the NACS connector, but it uses the CCS communication standard. They don’t pay musk royalties for them as it’s now a standard.
Same. I’m looking at everything but Tesla. I just couldn’t live with myself…
People are avoiding Tesla’s?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/502208/tesla-quarterly-vehicle-deliveries/
That’s delivery of vehicles. Aren’t they famously way behind with long wait times? Actual sales figures would be a better gauge.
You’re a quarter behind. Big drop 2024Q1, but you’re right that the story has been growth - just slower growth than Tesla has promised, even with massive price cuts, and now we have a contraction. A lot of people dislike Elon because he’s a fucking tool and this has to be a partial factor, we just don’t really know how much.
According to CNBC, deliveries have dropped 8.5% compared to Q1 2023. That’s awesome! I would love to see their sales continue to plummet.
Its kind of hard to find recent data but if you look at all car companies it’s pretty much par
https://www.marklines.com/en/statistics/flash_sales/automotive-sales-in-usa-by-month
You may have facts but there are like 10 people here saying they won’t buy a Tesla so…
But the survey and my confirmation bias say that people don’t like Teslas anymore…
I’m another one in this camp. Had a Model 3 for five years and loved the car, but moved internationally and had to sell it. Looking at EVs again of course but uninterested in Tesla because of this guy - that and his staunch refusal to add CarPlay. What kind of a moron refuses to add phone support to a $60,000 car?
I feel so smug in the fact that I never liked the guy, never bought into the hype…
I don’t know what’s going to save the human race folks, but it’s not going to be a billionaire in a cock measure contest.
I see a lot of anti-musk sentiment but didn’t really know why. What happened to piss everyone off? My guess is some autistic ranting on Twitter but that didn’t seem enough
The charging infrastructure isn’t where it should be if people were really serious about EV.
Yep, and the quality of quite suspect
Even from a purely financial perspective people are starting to realize that Teslas are a bad purchase. They are notoriously expensive to repair with little to no spare parts support. Even fender benders that would have been considered minor on other vehicles result in totalling the car. Because of this insurance premiums for Teslas are going through the roof. The battery pack also has a limited lifespan and replacements are prohibitively expensive.
Teslas used to keep their value because rarity, demand and Elon’s teademark overhype. But their depreciation curve has begun to catch up with reality. As more and more Teslas end up prematurely in the landfill depreciation and insurance costs are going to overshadow fuel savings.
Had Elon Musk ever really cared about saving the planet he would have used his company’s resources and energy in reducing the cost of ownership of his vehicles by creating an affordable repair parts supply. But instead he decided to waste it all on the moronic waste that is the cybertruck.
How about avoid buing car?
