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      Imo its fine if they open source it when they decide to end support. The fact that app has a pristine privacy record is good enough

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              You don’t know what DNS is, do you?

              Basically your device (for example your phone) needs to know the ip adress of any service it wants to connect to. As you may know these services usually use addresses like Lemmy.org or google.com or whatever.

              To know what IP adres is behind these addresses, you device needs to ask a dns server, in a local network (like your own WiFi) this is usually your router, but you can set it to any arbitrary device you want. This way you can see what addresses are being asked for by your device.

              So if the app want to send data to some server, it usually needs to resolve the adress first. And you can see that.

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            I mean if you’re using something like Firebase on Android, the network calls get bundled with Google Play Services and you have no idea what that’s sending up

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      They should also have a wired option. But I guess that they removed the headphone jack from their latest phone for a reason.

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    Please, just give us back the headphone jacks!

    Or let us amputate the legs of techbros (they’re obsolete in the world of cars and electric wheelchairs).

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      (Downvotes incomming) People still use wired headphones? It’s a very small market these days and Lemmy users are simply bubbled power users

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        I mean for working out and on the go I use Bluetooth ear buds.

        But damn do I sometimes wish I still had a headphone jack on my phone. Like just grabbing my nice pair of open ear headphones, throwing down on the couch and listening to music for example.

        And of course I always had backup wired ear buds with me, just in case the battery ran out.

        But eh, I can live without the headphone jack, now I just wish they would have used the space for a bigger battery.

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        Nowadays there is an earbuds with USB C wireless adapter like Anker Soundcore P10 or JBL Quantum. that is good and no pairing

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        There’s no way I’m spending a lot on a headphone I need to toss in the garbage when the battery becomes useless.

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        Pretty sure the market would be bigger if manufacturers didn’t remove the feature in order to push to wireless.

        What I like about them is not having a battery, meaning they have a lot less impact on the climate. And it isn’t needed when they are always connected to an other device with a battery that is less than 1m away.

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        As a DJ and audiophile in general, yeah I’m not thrilled on headphones using batteries and Bluetooth. I’ll give up my hard-line when I’m dead.

        Sure, some wireless for exercise or casual use is fine. Full deal breaker if I’m performing though.

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            Towards the end of my DJ’ing career, I was to the point of showing up to a venue (that had an existing sound system) on my motorcycle with my controller, headphones, microphone (that didn’t smell like beer breath) and laptop in a backpack. I’d just plug in and go. But even then the idea of DJ’ing from just a phone or tablet seemed weird to me. I understood the appeal of it but…

            The sticking point for most people is stereo. When you throw on AC/DC, you expect to hear the guitar out of the just one speaker but when DJ’ing a large room that doesn’t work. Half the room hears the guitar and the other half just hears high hat. So you end up flipping the mono switch, ya know, just for that one song. Then eventually you’ve done three gigs in a row and realize that it’s been mono the whole time and no-one noticed, not even you.

            Headphones jacks have two audio out channels. We typically think of them as left and right, but they aren’t, that’s just how most people use them. Once you get past the mono idea, you realize you have two distinct audio outputs on your phone or tablet. If the music software can do the mono summing instead of the mixer, then then you can hook the “left” output cable to mixer ch 1, and the “right” to ch 2. Make sure the same output of the mixer goes to both speakers and you’re in business. You just need dj’ing software that can play two different songs at the same time on your phone and interface with a controller, probably via bluetooth.

            Now you can show up to a party with just your phone that you were already carrying anyway, plug in to their controller, and make a surprise appearance.

            It still weirds me out, but modern phones have the horsepower to do this. They certainly don’t have the disk space for a terabyte library, so you aren’t going to work a six hour wedding with an iphone, but there are TB SD cards so certain Androids could certainly do this.

            There’s probably also software that will do everything over bluetooth so a completely wireless phone could work.

            I’ve been out of the game for over a decade. I can’t imagine how far the controllers and software have come and don’t want to find out because I’m sure my poor wallet can’t handle it.

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              I agree modern phones have the horsepower to do a full on audio production; how does a 3.5mm jack help in this setup that a multi-bus USB-C DAC or mixer can’t do a better job than a driver that’s confined to 5mm of space?

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              Excellent points, appreciate the write up. Better said than I could myself.

              I will also note that in my personal experience phone was more of a hail mary when I’d be doing like a wedding reception or private party and needed a tune for client that wasn’t already in my USBs. When the tip depends on it, yes, I absolutely DJ with the phone.

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            I’m not a DJ, but I can listen to high end audio from 3.5mm, even a phone, and you just can’t over Bluetooth. Its lossy janky and barely a standard.

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        I still have 200 euro wired in ear headphones that are my favorite pair so I need to 3,5mm port. But I never got the loud commotion over the disappearance of the port, because you can easily use a 3,5mm to USB-c cable. Having said that,I do still appreciate such a port in my phone because sometimes I forget to take the cable with me or I lose it.

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        Nobody knows what they’re missing out on after the early mp3 era conditioned people to be used to shitty audio quality.

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        Some devices cannot use Bluetooth audio devices, or it’s buggy or laggy af. I don’t mind wireless buds for the gym, but they sound worse and die before a flight across the US is complete. Wired headsets so don’t have to be charged, or if they do have ANC, its usually a replacable battery instead of a rechargeable battery.

        I dunno if it’s just my Fold 4, but when I ride the train or visit an apartment, I get bombarded by pairing requests from Bose headphones and other bluetooth devices like home speakers. It’s probably some setting that Samsung quietly flipped on in a recent patch, but it’s really annoying. Fuck off, 𝙳𝚊𝚟𝚎’𝚜 𝙱𝚘𝚜𝚎 𝚀𝚞𝚒𝚎𝚝𝙲𝚘𝚖𝚏𝚘𝚛𝚝 𝟺𝟻 𝙷𝚎𝚊𝚍𝚙𝚑𝚘𝚗𝚎𝚜, I don’t need pairing notifications every 10 seconds.

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          Exactly how I bought mine. Only pair I could find in my house were insufferably cheap and hurt to use. Realized I could get a very decent wired pair for like $20. Love those things now

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            The low-end Chinese IEMs from the likes of MOONDROP, TRUTHEAR, etc. in that $20 range are surprisingly good if anyone is interested in picking up a spare.

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              I ended up getting a CCA CRA pair, and they’re surprisingly good too. Currently $22 for a pair with a mic. It was either those, or MOONDROP, but I think either of them would be well worth the 20 bucks

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        I use both wireless and wired, depending on what I’m doing. The earbuds fall out when I’m exercising, but have better call-quality because of the noise canceling.

        And I use wired for chatting, when playing games with friends on playstation. And I still have an ipod I use occasionally… so I just kinda have both.

        I prefer to have a headphone jack on my phone, but I have a dongle adapter for usb-c, if I want to use my wired ones. I would just prefer not to use the adapter if I didn’t need to, because I’ve already had issues with my phone’s charging port trying to crap-out on me. The charging port isn’t as robust, and you do lose some quality with the dongle. I deal with it just fine; but a headphone jack on a phone might tip me towards purchasing that one, if I were looking to buy a new phone. It depends for me, but it’s not the end of the world, just an inconvenience that could easily be avoided

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        I imagine phones no longer having headphone jacks isn’t helping the wired headphones market. I’d gladly use wired headphones if it meant I didn’t need to charge mine or worry about them dying on me. Aside from working out, it’s not like the wire is exactly in the way…

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        Nah I like em because I’m paranoid. I had paranoiac family who weren’t power users who behaved similarly at the dawn of this shit.

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    Wired 3.5mm jack.

    Hear me out. I don’t use Bluetooth headphones. They don’t last the commute and work day.

    With a jack you can listen and charge you phone at the same time and never worry about charging your headphones/iem.

    If I need to use Bluetooth for connection I still can but overall better battery life

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      If you add a 3,5mm jack to those small earbuds, there definitely won’t be any space for a battery. It’s one or the other.

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      One thing sibling comments miss is how you can offer a jack & them, as a user, can still use whatever style you want & disregard the jack. It’s a cheap part that takes up some volume but not enough to force an entire redesign. But when manufacturers remove the jack, you are forced users into consuming either the wireless earbuds (that they all ‘conveniently’ sell branded) or cosuming a dongle which takes up the one charging port, are unruly in a way that puts additional stress on the port & make the wires hang awkwardly. Almost all other gear with audio that isn’t a modern smartphone includes the jack which means you can’t bring your existing gear—or it starts prompting every apparatus to start adding Bluetooth capabilities which includes the latency, flakiness, slow pairing but also the security & fingerprinting issues of keeping devices with Bluetooth always on in the first place. Even with replaceable batteries, you still need microcontrollers & firmware delivery.

      That is to say, if Fairphone cared about sustainability, they can offer a better earbud on repairability (pressing doubt on the frequency-response curve tho), but they should still be offering a jack on their phones since wired headphones/IEMs are a more sustainable (& private & secure) personal audio option.

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      Which ones are you referring to? What’s is your actual use time, like 8+ hours a day without charging? I use cheap generic MPOW ones I got for $40 and they easily last me at least 2 days

      fun edit:

      With a jack you can listen and charge you phone at the same time

      With wireless headphones you can also charge your phone and listen at the same time

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        But any reason to prefer wireless is sort of moot because having a 3.5mm jack doesn’t preclude a wireless headphone feature.

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        So… I was more referring to a 3.5mm jack on the phone.

        Commute time is a little over 2hours each way. Office use is 6-8 hours. Listening + calls and needing a microphone.

        Would rather not to have to do the dance for multiple devices and chargers vs just one and a single usb input.

        Some of the bushes and trains have a usb but you have to get lucky and then decide what needs charging more…the phone or the buds.

        Give me a wired option any day. Also used less battery power and sounds better.

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          Unrelated, but how do you tolerate that length of commute every day? I’d last 3 days before either looking for a new job or a new house.

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            Well… It’s not a commute that I need to do every day. Also I can (to some extent) work on that commute as the majority of it is on an inter-urban train. Timeboxing tasks to 30 mins or an hour can be quite productive. That said, having decent music and or noise blocking configured for your environment helps a lot. I highly recommend these guys - I have their full app and being able to dial just the right frequencies to deal with whatever is bugging you is amazing…

            https://mynoise.net

            That said, without my device and quality headphones/iem I wouldn’t be able to tolerate it.

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        With wireless headphones you can also charge your phone and listen at the same time

        Yes, but that’s not the point. The point is that if I want to use wired headphones, I can’t charge my phone. Something I was able to do before, and now it’s a “privilege” for wireless users. It’s bullshit.

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          What phone do you have where you can’t charge it and use wired headphones?!

          I might be out of the loop lol. Is that an iPhone thing? I use android.

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            I don’t own one. I had to buy one without a phone jack out of necessity (needed a phone right that second), but that’s what I’ve been hearing. You need a dongle to connect your wired earbuds, and while you’re using the dongle, you can’t charge your phone.

            Has this changed?

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              You can buy a USB-C splitter or replace your current dongle with one that gives you the exact ports you want.

              For example, the Belkin Rockstar is USB-C to USB-C+3.5mm jack. It’s $40 but there are a ton of cheaper options - JSAUX has a few for $15 or so on Amazon, and there are other no-name branded versions out there for around $10ish.

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          Problem solving: 2 in 1 Samsung USB Type C to 3.5mm Headphone and Charger Adapter for Galaxy S23/S22/S21/S24,60W PD USB C to Aux Audio Jack Dongle Cable Android Phone Fast Charging Cord for iPhone 15,Google Pixel 8/7a https://a.co/d/6dewjjB

          JFC y’all are dumb. Just get a goddamn splitter. It’s not “privilege” that you get to keep using lead paint in your house, when you can do the same thing without the drawbacks or the lead.

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            It’s not “privilege” that you get to keep using lead paint in your house, when you can do the same thing without the drawbacks or the lead.

            What a weak ass analogy. A mini-jack doesn’t harm anybody.

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              How can you say that! It harms the shareholders of wireless earphones manufacturers!

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    Bluetooth is okay. But, I wish they offer USB c dongle connection like JBL or Anker. I hate pairing

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      ASUS removed the ability to unlock or root their most recent phones. Not letting users run what they want on the device they own is a hard pass from me.

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          At least the 10 never had the ability. The 9’s ability was yanked in the middle of its lifecycle. I was 🤏 close to buying a 9 on the 10’s release for a discount & I am so glad I opened a second tab to check what the unlock process would be like before a purchase only remembering not long after release the was an OmniROM version. Additionally I was wise enough to see thru the bullshit department (PR) that the feature would “soon return after maintenance” after the unlock servers had already been down for a couple months. Unsurprisingly they were never brought back online & the unlock app was revoked from the downloads page for the device.

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    Cool. Their first gen Fair buds were kinda pointless. The headphones though, the Fair buds XL are excellent. I bought a pair recently and I love them.

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      First thing I looked at as well. Shame. I’ll buy them when my AirPods die if they offer shipping to the us.

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    The comments on this post are entirelly missing the point. Jesus christ lemmy. Yes, we know you like 3.5 mm jacks. That is not the point. The point is that FairPhone launched earphones with ANC with replaceable batteries. This is good!

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      Counterpoints:

      1. Good IEM-s don’t really need ANC. If the silicone tip doesn’t isolate enough you can use foam tips that basically function like hearing protection earplugs.
      2. No battery is even better than replaceable battery.
      3. Wired IEM-s never get obsolete. At worst you’ll need to replace the silicone tips from time to time, or the cable and today even 20€ Chinese IEM-s have replaceable cables. With good care wired IEM-s can last decades.
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        So you basically said there’s no need for fair wired headphones because cheap 20€ chinese wired ones perfectly serve that market?

        Even better that fairphone builds true wireless earbuds with all those fair features, because there is no alternative there already.

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        If you don’t think you need ANC you’ve never experienced good ANC, even the best passive noise isolation won’t quiet down the sound of a full cafeteria or bus.

        No wired iems will never be obsolete, but I will just be leaving them at my desk where the downsides over wireless are less.

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          I’ve used passive noise isolation earbuds that work better than any ANC. This one time I took them off after a long flight, only to realize that a toddler was crying behind me.

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      Well, my point is that we wouldn’t need wireless headphones if Fairphone still had a headphone jack

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    that’s cool, ill never buy silicon tips again tho. why is apple the only one making real ear buds?

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      Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. I’m a person with ears that do not work with silicone tips either. I love the fit of AirPods. Tried AirPods Pro, and for my ears, they suck. Doesn’t matter what size tips I use, they seal poorly and fall out constantly. Regular AirPods fit great.

      Edit: grammar

      Edit 2: that being said, I want to try these because I really want replaceable batteries for my earbuds. It may be moot for me though as I live in the US and currently they aren’t shipping to the US.

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        yah, luckily airpods 1:1 clones are like $20.

        i have downvotes completely hidden so i wouldn’t have noticed.

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          I haven’t used the clones yet, but I’ll likely go with something like that when these die.

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    here’s hoping the next Fairphone finally launches new in the US.

    Really would love to finally use one.

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        they sell the fairphone 4 not the 5. And while I’m not against e/os/, that’s kind of neat for me I think it’d be awesome if they sold the original model with android with all of Google Spyware lol

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          The bootloader is open so you could throw Fairphone’s Android on there no problem. I think they provide the files for that (didn’t check so don’t know for sure)

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          This is true. Hopefully they will soon sell the 5! I tossed lineageOS on mine, and have felt pleased with it.

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            Did you buy it from fairphone or are you saying you got the fairphone 4 with e/os/ from Mureno?

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                I’m curious what made you not like e/os/. I’m interested to try it if they do the fairphone 5

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                  I didn’t have strong feelings about it, and had extensive experience with LineageOS. I just stuck with what I knew.

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        The US market has three big gatekeepers named Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile. They charge huge money to certify devices to work on their networks. No certification and phones won’t work properly for mission-critical stuff like VoLTE, VoWiFi, and in some cases 5G. Without these features, no-one will buy the phones.

        You also need to be selling a big number of those phones to eat the cost of all that certification. And what do you know, the telcos operate the stores that sell the lion’s share of phones in the US market.

        All that adds up to niche handsets only working on 1 or 2 of the telcos, or only partially, and only selling direct to consumer or on Amazon or Best Buy or wherever in negligible numbers.

        And that’s why you can’t buy a Fairphone at retail in the US.

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          Ok i never understood this. But can i ask wtf is there a certification required for using volte or vowifi ( particulary VoLTE )?

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            It’s easy to forget that our pocket computers are also telephones, and thus emergency calling devices. These are regulated with good reason. The operator/their partners have to test the device on their network to ensure it is compliant and emergency calls can be made as expected; they also need to build the VoLTE/VoWiFi/IMS settings for that specific network into the handset’s software before it will work - VoLTE has many complications, it is not one size fits all. Accordingly, some operators allow BYOD, while others will only whitelist the specific hardware and software combination they have tested and signed off on.

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              So why exatcly 3g or 2g never had this problem. Also why is that then that i can use 4g internet but somewhow making a phone call on the same network is not allowed?

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                Over 2G and 3G, voice calls are circuit switched. VoLTE and VoNR are packet switched, over IP, VoIP. Totally different. VoLTE is not as standardised as it may seem from the outside whereas 2G and 3G voice calls were.

                Internet access is not regulated as an emergency service.

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                  Does the 5g have the same problems or did they improved it . Because right now that may be a collosal problem if my country ever wanted to turn off 2g ( which to be fair likely wont happen for a long time ).

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        I’m not sure, I assume due to the lock in to carrier stores in the US? Or just expenses of doing business. I can’t even order those earbuds to the US.

        there is the fairphone 4 on Murena with e/os/ but they don’t even have fairphone 5 😭

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    wireless charging is not supported

    This is 2024, right? Heckling aside, I’ll look for the next release.

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      I never understood why people care so much for wireless charging. It’s less efficient, therefore you heat your device more which shortens the longevity of the battery, you charge slower, and if you move the device slightly, it won’t charge, therefore it’s less reliable (unless there is a magnet array like apple). Sure, it’s useful in a pinch, but is it really a make or break feature?

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        I never understood wireless charging either, you still can’t move your device around (well if we ignore the fact you can move it around somewhat with a cable). It requires a charging pad too, so it also takes up more space.

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          for earbuds it’s useful as many modern phones can share their battery to wirelessly charge another device, so you can top up your earbuds off of your phone while you’re out somewhere and not need to lug around a charger and cable.

          For wirelessly charging phones, I agree the pad style chargers defeat a lot of the point, but I am a fan of the dock-style wireless chargers. I have one at my desk and can just glance at my phone to see notifications, and I have to set my phone somewhere anyways, so this lets me top up my phone without really thinking about it.

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            That’s the only benefit I can think of, the reverse charging on phones (which is very slow). They could add that feature to the usb port though. I mean the dock thing sounds alright I guess, but I just plug my phone in, then it’s charging on desk and in hand and it only needs to be in for like 30 mins and it’s full charged.

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      You may like Shokz. Their headsets are wireless and bone-conducting. The drivers get pressed to your temples with a flexible wire connecting them and you hear the sound conducting through your head instead of your ear canal. The only downside I’ve experienced with them is that they can only drown out so much noise, so if you’re planning on using them in a noisy environment, probably go with another choice.

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        A friend of mine has a set of them at work and they work well in our noisy environment - machine shop.

        The rule for earbuds is that you can only have one in so the bone conduction are gaining popularity at work.

        I wish they fit in my motorcycle helmet. My earbuds fall out all the time when I take my helmet off.

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      All of these honestly ought to just come with a small hole and bring your own ‘lanyard’/‘string’. I can’t imagine it would require much in terms of design to put a hole in a corner.

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        Because if you do any kind of outside activity including uh work? Once it falls out - it’s gone forever. That’s a pricey accident.

        I know we are all made different but Earbuds do not stay in my ear for shit. That’s why I just use headband headphones.

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          I guess the experience varies wildly based on ear shape but I never lost a bud. I think there are better ways to address this than to add a whole ass cable though. That’s not very creative.

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          I really wish earbuds would stay in for me. But anything other than sitting down and listening, and they start slipping. I’ve tried so many different shapes/sized ones, but it’s the same problem. At least if my wireless slip, it’s still hooked around my ear

          And I literally just started looking at some Shockz headphones the other day! Will probably try them out, I just hope it doesn’t make my head feel uncomfortable or cause headaches/vertigo. I doubt it, but they’re a little pricier than my wired ones, and it would suck if I ended up not liking them after a while

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            Beware they are bone conduction headphones so they are not audiophile quality. I think they sound fine but my wife says I’m half deaf anyways.

            I use them for Audiobooks and they are fantastic for situational awareness. I can hear everything all around me even while doing other tasks.

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              I really appreciate the heads up! But I actually pretty much want them for the “situational awareness”. I feel like I understand the expectations for audio quality. I’m not very much an audiophile, especially for what I’m trying to get out of them.

              I work in a pretty quiet environment that only gets really noisy if there’s a situation that needs to be handled. So I wanna be able to hear the alarms and would be pausing my podcast/whatever if I need to respond. And I also like the way it seems to fit and stay in place. It seems like a great fit for what I’m after, I just hope I’m not unlucky enough to be too sensitive to the vibrations. I kinda doubt it would be an issue, but that’s my (small) main concern… would I stop using them 6 months later because I can’t get used to it

              Should I get the “pro” version for better quality, or stay away because it could be too much bass/vibration (even at lower volume)

              But I’ve seen a few people at work with them, and they love them… and a few others have tried, but can’t deal with the vibrations

              So I’ve been torn. I’m probably gonna try them cause they check almost every box for what I’m looking for. But should I get the pro version? Would it be too much? Idk, and I could maybe try them from a co-worker, but I feel like I would have to spend time with them before knowing what I like. Just kinda wanna buy the right kind, if I’ma throw the money at it

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      The thing about wired earbuds and headphones is that they’re already pretty sustainable. A good pair can last you decades, while wireless buds are usually throwaway products. So I think it’s pretty cool that they’re doing something about that for those that want wireless earbuds.

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        Ugh? I used to burn through wired earbuds at a pace of maybe one pair per month. You basically have to sit and not move if you don’t want to damage the wire IME

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          How much are you paying for your headphones? Nicer ones that don’t break as easily are probably a cost effective option for you.

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          Some of the better ones have removable cables. You’ll usually just yank them out or worst case if the cable is damaged you can easily replace it.

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        I think you misunderstood, I want wireless headphones that have the two earbuds connected via a wire so you know, one doesn’t just pop out if your ear and drop on the street.

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          They are called “Wireless” headphones when there is a wire connecting them. “True Wireless” means two separate earbuds.

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          I think JBL and some other brands do carry such earbuds, but maybe it might not be thz kind of wire you’d fancy. There are also cheaper options that have a wire linking the two ear buds, but as I said those are usually cheap and might not be up to your standards.