The video shows Officer Ryan Westlake speaking to Tavion Koonce-Williams through his car window and seconds later firing his weapon toward the teen, whose arms were raised.
Tavion Koonce-Williams was shot in the wrist on April 1 in Akron by Officer Ryan Westlake, a nine-year department veteran, who was responding to a call about a person pointing a gun at houses. Akron police said the gun Tavion had been carrying was a “facsimile.”
This is clickbait. Dude had a fake gun, walking around pointing it at people. Fuck that shit.
… You do realize that by this analogy closing the box just traps hope (whatever its analog would be) in the box with all the negatives already escaped right? That’s like the whole point of Pandora’s Box. Argue a different analogy if you think this one inapplicable, but within the framework of the analogy the consequences of the “close the container after the evils have escaped” plan is well established
We played with toy guns when I was 6-8. I was pretty done with that by the time I was 10. I can’t really picture walking down the street with a plastic auto when I was 16 and people think “oh look, it’s just a child with a toy gun! How cute and harmless!”
Anyway, if you want to criticize the cop, the main issue is the victim had already thrown the gun down, had his hands up, and was 15 feet away from it. But apparently you want to give the cop the death penalty for shooting someone in the hand, which I think most people wouldn’t support.
But apparently you want to give the cop the death penalty for shooting someone in the hand, which I think most people wouldn’t support.
I’d love for you to point to where I (as a person very open about my opposition to the death penalty) said this. I’d like to edit my post so that other people don’t have the same misunderstanding.
Okay, I guess I misunderstood it. Thanks for clarifying. You mean for the cop, open and shit case, shoot the teen. I interpreted it as open and shut case, shoot the cop.
Also it’s sort of (not really) funny how seriously Lemmings take everything. Sort of worse than reddit at this point. My statement was meant to be sort of dry, not that I thought you seriously were advocating for literal execution.
It’s kinda crazy to think about, as a kid twenty some years ago I used to run around with friends up and down the street with you guns in our hands and we never got the cops called on us. We were white, of course.
We had bb guns. They launched actual projectiles and looked almost exactly like small caliber lever action rifles. I don’t think you could kill much (maybe mice?) with them but they’d send varmints running. When I got a little older, airsoft became a big thing. Some of those were super realistic and they were definitely more powerful than the old Daisy at the time. We never had the cops called, but we were white in a very rural white place.
Now I feel like Grandpa Simpson rambling with a story that isn’t going anywhere.
This is clickbait. Dude had a fake gun, walking around pointing it at people. Fuck that shit.
You know that you dont have any rights to a fireman if the police are allowed to shoot you on site for possessing one, right?
Guns should not exist in the first place.
Hate to break it to you, but Pandora opened that box centuries ago.
Close the box
… You do realize that by this analogy closing the box just traps hope (whatever its analog would be) in the box with all the negatives already escaped right? That’s like the whole point of Pandora’s Box. Argue a different analogy if you think this one inapplicable, but within the framework of the analogy the consequences of the “close the container after the evils have escaped” plan is well established
I guess there is no solution then.
I need to know where I get my Constitutional carry fireman :D
fireman’s open carry?
Oh so that means you should be shot immediately, got it.
Only if not white. Have you seen how patient they are with white people compared to people of color.
White mass shooters get handcuffed and treated with baby gloves but a brown kid with a toy gets shot within seconds.
You mean the child had a toy gun? What was he even doing outside acting like a kid, anyway?
Open and shut case, shoot the mofo.
We played with toy guns when I was 6-8. I was pretty done with that by the time I was 10. I can’t really picture walking down the street with a plastic auto when I was 16 and people think “oh look, it’s just a child with a toy gun! How cute and harmless!”
Anyway, if you want to criticize the cop, the main issue is the victim had already thrown the gun down, had his hands up, and was 15 feet away from it. But apparently you want to give the cop the death penalty for shooting someone in the hand, which I think most people wouldn’t support.
I’d love for you to point to where I (as a person very open about my opposition to the death penalty) said this. I’d like to edit my post so that other people don’t have the same misunderstanding.
Okay, I guess I misunderstood it. Thanks for clarifying. You mean for the cop, open and shit case, shoot the teen. I interpreted it as open and shut case, shoot the cop.
Also it’s sort of (not really) funny how seriously Lemmings take everything. Sort of worse than reddit at this point. My statement was meant to be sort of dry, not that I thought you seriously were advocating for literal execution.
Yo I’m gonna need a citation on this one fam
It’s kinda crazy to think about, as a kid twenty some years ago I used to run around with friends up and down the street with you guns in our hands and we never got the cops called on us. We were white, of course.
Same.
I had a toy uzi that looked just like the real thing.
I wouldn’t buy my kids a similar toy these days for a number of reasons, but I don’t think I deserved to be shot on sight.
We had bb guns. They launched actual projectiles and looked almost exactly like small caliber lever action rifles. I don’t think you could kill much (maybe mice?) with them but they’d send varmints running. When I got a little older, airsoft became a big thing. Some of those were super realistic and they were definitely more powerful than the old Daisy at the time. We never had the cops called, but we were white in a very rural white place.
Now I feel like Grandpa Simpson rambling with a story that isn’t going anywhere.