Man, this comment section is something
I think the “late stage capitalism” subreddit was lib friendly, so they see this one and behave the way they did there.
100% That sub was always populated by fans of Bernie Sanders and not communists.
I’m used to everything pro-Ukraine on this instance being downvoted to hell. Everyone who supports Russia is being downvoted instead. What is going on?
Must have showed up on a bunch of people from other instances’ “all” feeds.
Lot of Nazi fans popping in from other instances I guess.
Or your echo chamber is leaking
Post Hog.
well, shes not wrong.
She’s not wrong, but I feel its the wrong decision and statement to make.
why?
Greta: Capitalism is to blame
Also Greta: meets up with volodymyr zelenśkyjRussia is not the alternative to capitalism, they are part of it.
But there is something worse than capitalism: imperialism
I don’t get it
Well, what do you think about Zelenśkyj?
I like him. Am I not supposed to?
No, actually.
- He is holding political prisoners (Kononovyč brothers)
- He has banned multiple opposition parties
- He is continuing the Majdanite ban on the KPU and communist symbols.
- He suspended elections “until the war is over” and also stated “the war won’t be over until he takes Krym” Krym is rather deep in Russia’s territory by now and Zelenśkyj has trouble with Donbass let alone Krym. This boils down to “Zelenśkyj suspended elections indefinitely.” The Majdan regime is a literal fascist regime, attacking Russians and communists. (I’m not saying to support Russia either, although a lot of people on LG would say to support Russia)
@SoLongSealion@lemmy.world is literally a sea lion.
If their communists are anything like the swedish ones they are just “tankies”. They’ll love russia and china with the reasoning that they are “not usa” and therefore automatically good. This has been a huge issue for the european “far”-left for ages.
Most of what you listed is just attributably to being at war. Elections are impossible to hold during war and the crimea-thing is just posturing at this point which mean very little.
Since I am a Swedish communist and know plenty of them, I feel it might fall on me to say that you are just being ignorant and judgmental. There has been a fair share of naivety in the ranks of the left wing parties in Sweden, but that was much more notable during the 1970’s than it is today. I don’t know any communist or socialist in Sweden that argues in such simplistic terms like “not USA is automatically good”, that’s just an insane claim to make. And while we’re at it, most of the western world seem to agree that “not-Russia is automatically good” with all the head-in-the-sand shit the west is pulling over Ukraine. I believe you are touting prejudice against communists, like so many before you have done. It doesn’t do anyone any good.
I agree that it had changed to the better in the last 15 years or so. It’s still an issue elsewhere though.
Yes it’s such an issue for the European left to have people with principles, who are right all the time and can think beyond elections to enact change.
Don’t make me laugh, social Democrats would sooner vote with the far right to prevent the actual left from winning elections.
Elections are impossible to hold during war.
Historically, no.
and the crimea-thing is just posturing at this point which mean very little.
You should go in the middle of Kiev and shout this. Pretty soon, some armed thugs will pull up, strip you, beat you up, throw green paint on you then tie you on a street lamp and piss on you. It’s not posturing.
Why does he have so much support from NATO countries considering these points?
Look who’s just figuring out that nato is just rebranded imperialism
I’m not arguing, I’m just honestly asking questions. Why is NATO imperialistic? From my perspective, they are trying to help an independent country defend itself from people who are trying to take it from them by force.
Because NATO is not “pro-democracy”. Portugal under the Salazar regime was one of the founders of NATO.
ad 1: You already know what would happen to Ukrainian spies in Russia. They can thank their lucky stars for still being alive and held in a country with actual morals. ad 2: You already know what would’ve happened to pro-Ukrainian parties in Russia long before 2014. ad 3: All the while Putler is trying to take his country back to that “romantic” era. Seems to me like what’s good for Putler can’t possibly be good for his sworn enemies. ad 4: That’s how fucking martial law works.
Seriously what do you expect national policy to look like when you’re being invaded? Just let others spy on you, meddle with your national politics in parliament, weaken your resolve? When war starts shit gets fucking real really fucking quick. Putler has declared Ukrainians sub-humans, inferior to the “actual Russian/Slav”, he is abducting their children. This is genocide and it’s just mindboggling how people in actual free countries manage to twist the narrative into such directions like “Ukraine should just sue for a ceasefire”.
Especially you with your Black-Red-and-Gold profile picture should know how well suing for peace worked with Hitler. Dictators just take what they can until they are dictators no more. Putin will take whatever he possibly can for as long as there is still a breath left in his body. He will rebuild his military, no matter how long it takes, he will model Russia’s economy after North Korea’s and you already know he absolutely will be back for more of the same.
Putler this, putler that, put some sense into your brain bro lmao. You’re just using buzzwords you see in the media, it’s incredible that you own a brain but seem incapable of using it.
Putler this, putler that, put some sense into your brain bro lmao.
Bold of you to assume they have a brain
Well, what do you think about Zelenśkyj?
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Lol
Good for her. She finally grew up and saw reality.
comrade, she is just aoc for zoomers
AOC is AOC for zoomers, Greta doesn’t have any power and there’s still some hope for her.
She just supported people that blown up Nordstream, Kakhovka dam (and a lot of other things), shelled nuclear plant, started and maintain that war and use depleted uranium shells. I would say that even from a strictly ecological point of view she fucked up incredibly.
She’s supporting the Ukrainians tho.
Are you actually saying that they did all this to themselves? That’s what the Russian state has been saying without credible proof.
Edit: I’d like to see where you got your info.
You’re right, it makes much more sense that Russia would destroy their own pipeline which took 10 years to build so that Europe would buy US gas instead. And it makes perfect sense that Russia would destroy a dam they control and flood the defenses they had spent a whole year building, especially considering the Ukrainian counter offensive didn’t pan out and most of their soldiers died before ever seeing the fortifications.
There’s no proof of that either, but as a good citizen, I believe everything my government tells me. They have my own personal best interests at heart, after all. Especially when they turn away refugees and let them drown in the Mediterranean, I don’t know how but I’m sure it protects me.
Maybe they did the pipeline, but none of that other stuff.
Either way you haven’t actually showed me where you got any of this info.
I used my brain, which unfortunately seems to be becoming a rarer resource.
Where’s your evidence for saying Russia blew up the dam they controlled?
To themselves??? None of those were theirs.
Nordstream is Russian-German, not Ukrainian. Sabotaged obviously by USA, though USA claim Ukraine did it. <- note this shit, how they are wriggling themselves as pretzels and Greta is standing between them, supporting both possible perpetrators of that huge multitiered ecological catastrophe.
Kakhovka dam is on territory annexed by Russia and is very important strategic asset for Russia since it protects mainly Russian side and supplies Crimea with water, which is huge problem and was one of the main reasons Russians taken it. Also Ukraine previously already attacked it and they were freely admitting to WaPo they have a plan to blowing it. Also it wouldn’t be even first dam blown up by them.
Power plant is also occupied by Russians which had to shut it down because Ukraine was shelling it. Unless you believe the UA info that Russian artilery shelled literally themselves.
Uranium shells are supplied to Ukraine by UK. They will use it in Ukraine, so i guess this is what they do to themselves, it’s their kids who gonna be born with plethora of problems. Alternatively, they might bombard Donetsk with it i guess, they are under no illusion this city is theirs and they are routineley showering civilian objests and infrastructure there with cluster mines, and other supposedly rare munitions (weird how they beg around the world for it and then use it on pointless attacks on civilians).
it seem it is you who argue that Russia don’t even need an enemy because for some reason they keep attacking and sabotaging themselves all the time.
What I’m hearing is a tonne of supposition without backed up facts and hard reporting.
I would love to see a link to a news story covering the evidence. Otherwise this sounds like a social media consensus built in a speculation-echo-chamber.
I’m learning that “speculation echo chamber” is exactly what this instance is. Although “Russian propaganda repeater” might be more accurate as they don’t invent these narratives on their own.
It’s funny you talk about speculation, because right now there are people in Washington making a ton of money when the government sells or gives equipment to Ukraine to prolong this war.
HAHAHAHA now that’s fucking rich of you, coming here from the imperialist social media consensus.
But ok, i will humor you, though note that one sealion got banned already in this thread.
Power plant, here, here, here
Donetsk bombings plenty here
Uranium shells effects are pretty obviously researched in Iraq and Serbia, about howm seding it to Ukraine here and here. They are even bragging about it ffs.
Nah, she is still deluded. Just meet with Ukrainian dictator, Zelensky
Admits? Acknowledging that destroying capitalism is key to addressing the climate catastrophe is like admitting the sky is blue (or orange and smoky, as the case may be).
It would be real weird if she did not conclude this
I’m sorry to use such harsh language, but anyone who doesn’t understand that the world cannot be saved under capitalism is a few eggs short of a dozen.
I love how some people hold her to much higher standards than the politicians they vote for.
I hope she has a good future. This is a good citizen of this world, something we lack dearly.
Not a good citizen. She meet with and promoted Zelensky. How would a good citizen promote a dictator?
Her body language in the pictures told a story of discomfort in my eyes. I would like to believe that she realised what a mistake she’d made when she met him.
I’ll believe that when she publicly states she shouldn’t have meet with him.
What can I say. Seems like a clever girl with internally consistent views if she got there from ecology. Who knows, maybe she’ll even stop supporting Ukraine at some point!
If she isn’t a media project.
overthrow capitalism
supports empire’s military adventures
internally consistent
hmmm
Show and prove; that’s all I have to say about that.
Exactly, she said one thing, did the opposite. Btw i think i seen the that tweet from OP few months ago, so we already know.
Yes, why are we still paying any attention to this autist?
Kind of weird given that last week she was just supporting Ukraine. I’m confused right now. Like, Wagner coup level confused.
Wdym, there are plenty of ultras that hate Russia and also capitalism in general
I kinda don’t think this is it. She is much more likely to be one of those westerns who “doesn’t like capitalism” but then only wants welfare capitalist states called socialism.
It sucks that Greta gets so much attention. The right uses her as a kind of straw man of climate change. She’s so dislikable.
She is part of the right
as far as I can tell she’s firmly ensconced in the shitlib territory… she speaks out of both sides of her mouth so easily as they’re wont to do
