We should check with the dolphins known associates. Maybe this was a gang killing.
Or raping
Fuck James.
I would rather see an effort to do something about the nets
Why in the world is this being downvoted? An absurd number of dolphins are murdered as an accidental byproduct of commercial net fishing every single day. What the hell goes through the mind of a fool that downnvotes this comment?
The same types of people that support the genocide of Gaza. There is so much mental illness in the world these days.
Wut
Yeah but what would we do without disgusting fish in a can?
try better canned fish. don’t yuk my yum. go for line caught for tuna if dolphin death is an issue for you. wild planet is good and pretty widely available. safecatch is really tasty but even more expensive. sardines also range from the crap you buy for a buck to some really gourmet stuff at 15 bucks a tin.
Why not both?
Yeah, it would be great to catch that one psycho, but it would be way better to catch the psychos that do this all day every day. I think that’s the point they were trying to make.
It can be both. The reality is that this is likely one mentally ill person while there are thousands being killed by fishing nets but I didn’t see any articles or rewards posted for those killers.
The fuck is wrong with people
Wait till you hear what happens on the factory farms that nearly everyone’s meat and dairy comes from. Animals would be lining up for a chance to be treated as well as this dolphin that died at the hands of this bastard.
Downvoted for speaking the truth
It’s a livestock’s life that’s more inhumane, not its death. “Riddled with bullets” isn’t better than cutting open the superior vena cava.
That being said, what they did to the dolphin is horrible, and I hope they get caught.
If only they all got simply cut along the superior vena cava. I know it would be great if they all had wonderful happy deaths, but unfortunately they simply don’t. For example, anyone who eats factory farm eggs has the fact that countless baby chicks are thrown into blenders while still alive on their conscience. It is great when people show what they think happens on those farms because it gives opportunity for people to point what actually is happening. Hopefully, more interactions like this will help to end the hypocrisy of it all.
Look at all the downvotes I’m getting, people absolutely leach onto anything that makes them feel the bad people are the ones who point out how awful these farms are.
You haven’t gotten any downvotes, and your comment is eight hours old. You don’t need to be a martyr to make a point. You’re right that the farming industry is cruel.
Their comment shows -37 here
I wasn’t talking about the potential future downvotes from that comment. I was talking about all the past downvotes that I already got on my original comment.
As an aside, I’m pretty sure that not any amount of downvotes can grant someone martyrhood status.
You got down votes for shoehorning the same tired “but you eat meat!” argument that always gets brought up.
I guess using that logic we must think machine gunning dolphins is fine if we also eat chickens or something, what a dumb take.
That’s why you were down voted, you probably picked up a bunch more when you complained about them.
Imagine you go over to someone’s house, and as soon as you walk in, you get overwhelmed by the smell of feces. You walk into the living room, and there is a dog in a cage that it barely fits into. The cage is so tight around its body that it is unable to turn around. You realise there are inches of fecal sludge caked into the bottom of the entire cage. Upon close inspection, you realise that the teeth of the dog have been removed. You are told that by removing the teeth, it can’t bite. You ask how it doesn’t get so sick that it dies, and you are shown a handful of pills that it is given that fight off its infections and diseases.
You are absolutely disgusted, and you rightfully say so. The response of the owner is this, “This is the same tired argument of ‘Nobody can have pets!’ That always gets brought up.”
This is exactly what you just did.
I never said anything about anyone not being allowed to eat meat, but you have been so conditioned that whenever anyone points out how bad factory farms are, you immediately try to defend them by acting like the only possible way to eat meat is to do it that way. This is not because you are an idiot, it is just because of how clever and motivated the bastards that are doing this to animals are. They are able to convince good-meaning, kind people like yourself to fight on their defense whenever anyone tries to chalange them.
There are many people, now, and all throughout history, that eat meat in a way that is not deplorable, but that way doesn’t make large factory farms rich, it doesn’t put more money into the billionaires pockets. So, they recruited you, and many others to work for them. They are very smart, and they succeeded.
By the way, I have no idea how you’ve taken anything Isaid to mean that I think it is OK to machine gun dolphins if you also eat chickens. I never said anything remotely like that. I agree whole-heartedly that that is, indeed, a very dumb take.
Preach
…aka the dumbest take
There is a very good reason why you can’t even attempt to explain your justification for factory farms and all you can do it say “…aka the dumbest take”.
You have no moral justification, all you have is childish selfishness with no regard for anyone but yourself. Your entire life has lead up to the best you can do is try to tear down compationate people because you think it will give you a temporary feeling of not being disgusting.
You could do better, but first you need to at least want to develop will power and self control. I hope for your sake that you never have to experience the hell that you so giddily inflict on others.
…aka the dumbest take
I’m sorry you’ve been so hurt, I hope you get better.
…aka…
Or maybe don’t try to shoe horn the issue in as a non-sequitor and take umbrage when called out?
When people show outrage about the abuse of a single animal, it is in no way “shoe horning” or a “non-sequitor” to point out the massive animal abuse that many people are supporting. I understand that people hate hearing about, but it’s still true.
It is 100% you bringing your own agenda without regard or consideration for the discussion at hand. You’re not trying to add to the discussion by jumping in and championing your cause without reading the room.
I’m sorry it is so hard for you to make the connection between one abused animal and many abused animals. I don’t know what else to say. This is text book cognitive dissonance. Two things couldn’t be more related.
I have no idea why you’re being downvoted. The fishing industry is possibly the biggest monster in the world and people are just fine with what they can not see. I used to own a sailboat. I can tell say first hand it can be disgusting out there. Ya’ll need to watch some documentaries. Thousands of marine animals are being slaughtered right now while you’re reading this.
I have no idea why you’re being downvoted.
Probably because shooting a random dolphin isn’t great
Yeah taking “single dolphin shot repeatedly” to “but what about the fishing industry” isn’t a productive take, it’s whataboutism. They are independent issues, and trying to put focus on one removes the focus from the other
I think it’s good to make people connect their disdain for animal abuse to something they can actually do something about
Maybe check yourself before checking others Mr “other races are like different species”.
I doubt anybody in here is looking for diet or moral advice from a classic 1800’s slave owning racist mindset.
It is amazing to watch someone’s mind melt like this just because the truth of their food source is pointed out to them. This is a full-blown insane comment.
Huh? I am against slavery. Of any species.
It’s a one time incident. This is like when everyone lost their minds when a single turtle got a straw stuck in its nose. I’m not saying that wasn’t a bad thing. Just like I never said someone shooting a dolphin isn’t horrible.
But why offer a 20K reward for this while completely ignoring the mass slaughter taking place every day? Talk about unproductive.
I don’t think this is whataboutism in its most deflective form; I think it’s, “Why are we concerned about a one-off incident but not looking at the elephant in the room?”
I guess I don’t consider things whtaaboutism if it’s pointing to something that encapsulates the original issue. These issues are not mutually-exclusive and signal the same problem: It’s just asking why people are inconsistent with their outrage. In other words, whataboutism in this context can be effective when pointing out hypocrisy and double-standards.
To contrast, whataboutism as a deflection tends to be a substitute for, “You did it, too! Thus ignore what I did / what I did wrong is justified.” Again, this is not that.
Except one (shooting a dolphin repeatedly) is an act of sport or maliciousness, while the slaughter of marine mammals is an issue of the fishing industry. It’s like someone locking someone up in their basement vs the unjust imprisonment for many inmates that happens in the US. One is personal, and specific, one is systemic, happens all the time, and needs to be approached with a broader scope. They are all wrong, but you can’t lump them together because you are generally upset
I think we can absolutely say that industrialized slaughter is objectively worse in terms of the scale of suffering for the victims. We abstract the moral suffering in the fishing farm; but whoa, if someone individually shoots an animal — totally different! At the end of the day, scale is what matters.
Personally I couldn’t care less about the assailant’s state of mind; what matters is the victim
That reminds me, gotta make dinner, some nice juicy chicken should do fine!
Gotta pick up some ice cream as well!
Man, you showed him with your factory farmed bird flue
If there is a bird in your flue you should not light the fire until you clean it out.
If you immediately know the candlelight is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago.
… are you high?
“since you oppose racism im gonna tell you all about being racist”
“Racism is when you hate animals”
See we can all type stupid shit in quotes and pretend it’s what the other person said.
Since we’re criticizing each others diets, yall could do more for the planet by not having kids or eating anything at all.
Just saying.
Racism is a subset of speciesism (which is when you think it is okay to kill some species but not others) so I think the comparison is reasonable.
You think races are different like species are different?
Lmao, and where is this racist kettle, Pot?
Nah, I just added some semi relevant information, just like the comment before mine
I don’t know, but guns seem to enhance it.
Might have been self defense. They’re real rapey.
I get the sarcasm
No one wants to take a joke…
Just as the Founders intended.
What do the changelings care about sea mammals?
“Fuck the dolphins!” - Thomas Jefferson, probably
*Founders penning constitution beneath whale oil lanterns. Yea, probably?
Holy shit that’s evil.
I’m against the death penalty. But maybe whoever did this to the dolphin should also get to experience what it went through.
I’ve got news for you: you’re not against the death penalty.
Eh, I said what I said when my emotions were high on this. Still against the death penalty though.
If you are for the death penalty when your emotions are high, you are for the death penalty period. People who are against the death penalty don’t go on the record in support of the death penalty, because it’s a principle, not something that you only stand for when it is convenient for you.
If the death of an animal is enough to make you flip, you’re probably going to side with most death sentences since they relate to the murder of human beings.
Someone could murder members of my family, and I would still be against the death penalty, because that’s who I am. You’re not going to hear me calling for anyone’s death, regardless of my emotional state, because I know that doesn’t solve anything, and it is bad for our society as a whole.
Alright man, I guess I’m a shit human being that’s not perfect and my words don’t matter because it seems that you’ve made up your mind about me as a person from one comment on the Internet.
Unlike the person you’re haranguing, I’m all for the death penalty and I would be just fine if it was applied to annoying fucks like you.
I want to know what the dolphen was wearing, maybe a dark hoodie. Will they release the arrest record of the dulphin? What was the dolphin holding? Why is so much media attention going to this one dolphon? All sea creatures matter. I read the fisherman thought it was his taser and feared for his life, let’s see how you react in a dark alley with a young dofin.
If it was a dauphin that was shot, everyone in this corner of the Fediverse would be cheering.
“HE HAD A BLOWGUN I FEARED FOR MY SAFETY”
I hear he was buying skittles and a drink. Dolphin was clearly making lean.
That Dolphin was No Angel!!! Stand for are Cop’s and Kneel for are Cross!
Dofin is their word, we really shouldn’t be using it at all. Dolphin is the acceptable spelling and term.
I’d really prefer if you used “D***n” instead of typing out the word. It’s kind of jarring to see it out there even in an educational context.
No no, it’s okay, my nephew is half porpoise, I can say that.
Well I’m 1/8 dolphin, my great great grandmother was a dolphin princess.
Loooooool
I heard the dolphin has no currently active warrants, and may have been armed, although no weapon was located at the scene.
Couldn’t it have washed ashore and then someone used it as target practice? Artical says gunshots happened near the time of death.
Artical says gunshots happened near the time of death.
Well yeah… gunshot wounds and death tend to be highly correlated.
@BradleyUffner @ThePantser Correlation != Causation
You can just say you didn’t understand the joke. No need to misapply an overused truism.
I was also making a joke
The authorities likely checked the dolphin’s internal temperature to figure out time of death. And if the wounds had been hemorrhaging = the dolphin was alive when it was shot.
This is the same way authorities figure out when a person died and if injuries occured before of after death.
Bullets slow down exponentially in water. They caught a dolphin and then shot it to death on land.
Or shot a curious dolphin at the surface.
I wonder about that. Aren’t dolphins and whales non-buoyant, in the sense that they sink when they die?
Looking, I find https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-happens-when-whales-die.html
I guess the dolphin may have been at the floating stage?
Sucks for the dolphin but I’m not sure why everyone cares so much. There are real murders happening.
What is sad is you don’t understand that this is a real murder.
Its not that I don’t “understand” I just disagree. I do not value animal lives as much as human lives which is why I’m not referring to this as a real murder. This is sad of course and whoever did it deserves to be punished for it. Its just odd to me that this is such a big deal to so many people when so many human beings are being murdered on a daily basis. The reaction I’ve seen to this outweighs that of any human murder I’ve seen in recent memory.
When a cute and innocent individual get brutally murdered, people get sad. When it’s some guy in sub-Saharan Africa, that you hear similar reports of every day, it’s just not evoking much of a response. Probably that is what is going on.
Also, there are fewer dolphins than there are humans. From that perspective, it is even sadder.
I don’t agree that humans are special in any way, btw.
I agree this is probably caused by reports of human murder being so common. Eventually you get desensitized to tragedy when you see it enough. Maybe this was just different enough from the norm that it got that emotional response.
I don’t understand how you can think humans aren’t special in any way. They are the most special animal I can think of. I can understand if you value animal lives more than I do. That’s pretty subjective, although I think most people value human lives much more than animal lives.
I’ve never met a dolphin I didn’t like, not that I really got to know them. people on the other hand.…
I think that’s what this is.
There is this concept of ‘Us and them’, a in group and out group. In conflict it is often utilized to make your guys hate the other group and ‘dehumanize’ them so that you can prevent your guys directing sympathy towards the enemy. The other guys may have different language and culture and whatnot. Language is one of the best barriers for sympathy and is well recognized by the ones that use this to their advantage.
To a large extent, I think it is the same principles that prevent people from recognizing the suffering of individuals of other species.
We apply importance to the recognition of suffering so we can prevent it. I say we apply it to everyone.
Now, of course we can nit-pick and try to separate out who or what we apply sympathy to. You could designate some things as just automatons; such as ants, bacteria or even viruses. But I’m not gonna do that now.
I think the individual tragedy of every death that happens hitting you would be a tornado that ripped you from your sanity and sent your soaring. Some say that’s what happened to God. But we’re not gods, were small people with small lives, and it’s easy to connect the death of a dolphin by gunfire to the death of the world by overconsumption, even if only metaphorically. It’s a tragedy because of everything that it is, not because of the one cute dolphin. Although that is also sad.
I believe emotion is the basis for morality, and there is no objective morality. I have little emotional reaction to an ant dying. I have some emotional reaction to a dolphin dying. I have a great emotional reaction to a human dying. Your emotional reactions to these things are different from mine. That’s where the conversation ends for me.
I could make up an explanation like yours to explain why I feel this way, but the truth is that I just feel this way. I believe that’s also the real explanation for why you feel the way you do. I doubt you really logic and reasoned your way into caring for humans and animals equally.
Great point. It’s really too bad that humans evolved to only be able to consider one thing at a time, and therefore nobody can care about the murder of a dolphin AND the deaths of humans.
Fucking bummer. But I guess we’re limited by our biology.
The gave those coonasses guns. First mistake.
Less than a year for this site to turn into a shit hole. Well done buddy, you did it.
Just to re-state the comment I replied to for when it’s inevitably gone:
The gave those coonasses guns. First mistake.
Classy.
Coonass is the name for Cajuns, they call each other that
Isn’t “Coonass” what Cajun’s call themselves though? Or am I missing something?
No you’re not missing anything, I think people are missing that detail and down voted out of ignorance
Even got removed by a mod lol
I could tell it isn’t a slur because lemmy.ml didn’t remove it from my view, lol.
I let them know! Sure reads like a spicy comment initially. They can see what they think.
Huh, TIL. I honestly expected it to be related to a really old racist term and not to French
Coonass, or Coon-ass, is a term for a person of Cajun ethnicity. Some view it as derogatory, however many Cajuns embrace the name. The term is believed to originate from the French word conasse, meaning a fool.
Bad response, but not a racial slur - means idiot Cajun.
Restored, but take your downvotes
Near New Orleans, Louisiana if you’re wondering
Cameron Parish is near New Orleans in the same way that Delaware is near Virginia.
Folks not from the south treat it the same way a good hunk of Americans treat Europe, think it’s culturally homogeneous, can’t pronounce the name of most towns/cities properly, and believe that we get along and like one another.
As though I’d ever say anything positive about South Carolina or Florida
Now thats just damned well inaccurate, some of us dont think of the south at all except for when we see yous plates. Seriously the only part of the south I care to think about is Arkansas more specifically around little rock since ive got kin there.
yous plates
Not sure if yinzer that relocated or typo?
