Why do conservatives hate free speech and freedom so much?
No no, why do PROGRESSIVES hate freedom so much whilst conservatives work so hard to make sure everyone has the freedom to own a gun and debt?
“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary” - Karl Marx
What?
I think it’s supposed to be sarcasm?
No. It’s not. It’s close. They’re mocking the person who took any side. There no side to not commit xenocide and the democrats will knot not do it. We don’t have much time left. Their might be one “president” left after this one. I assure you it don’t matter who because everyone will die on this planet.
Yeah no. Whatever craziness you are talking about, I was sarcastic
They clearly are not being serious
I don’t understand this meme. Is this really what USA republicans are pushing? That’s surprisingly reasonable and progressive
what are you smoking
I think it’s sarcasm Maybe
man this reminds me of that post i commented on that was on the hexbear instance…
it got removed and im pretty sure i was banned, idk what the fuck those guys are smoking over there lmao.
probably just drinking bleach
smells like it with how aggressively they prune things.
getting banned from hexbear is the lemmy equivalent to getting banned from r/conspiracy
it really is. I posted one comment, woke up the next day being called a genocide supporter, having my comment removed (don’t know why, didn’t read the rules, nor will i) and being banned.
Truly only the most hexbear of interactions.
If the term Abortion isn’t allowed to exist in any possible law then does that make it legal?
“Delete and prevent the use of these terms to protect
freedom of speechmy fragile and extremely traumatised psyche”Fixed that for them
Here… read through the Socialist Rifle Association’s website.
Hey USA,
good luck…
We’re gonna need it
Merriam-Webster
There is no good conservative alive today. Conservatism is a plague long overdue for a cure.
They call the good ones Liberals now
It will always trip me out how Mitt Romney went from being the GOP nominee for president in 2012 to a reviled RINO in less than a decade by not moving. He’s the same guy with the same positions and the party shot far to the right.
“This shit has to be fake…”
2016 Trump flashbacks
Ah shit. It’s not fake. Please vote.
Please vote.
Hey, listen, go for it. But when we’ve got cops storming school yards and beating up professors, I gotta say. This probably isn’t going to be the freest or fairest election of my lifetime.
Probably won’t be. Might be the most free election you have going forward though
Ohhhh taking away my gender and rights was a transgender American protects my rights, I see I see.
Yeah if you keep throwing uno reverses at the uno reverses you can create a black hole to stow your rights in for safe keeping!
No it protects their rights. Gotta remember we aren’t real Americans
They want to protect free speech, by creating an enforced list of banned words?
Ever heard of the great lie?
No
It was the lie created by the Nazis, and they obviously knew it was a lie.
Ya wanna elaborate there buddy? Nazis lie all the time
It was an invention by Adolph Hitler himself, coined the big lie (grosse lüge), a lie so big that people wouldn’t believe someone would/could make such a big lie, hence they’d believe it.
I’m probably not explaining it very well, here us a Wikipedia link to get you going:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie
Cheers and fuck all fascists, btw!
If this were reddit, you would be flagged for inciting violence against political groups.
But this isn’t Reddit, this is Lemmy where we’re allowed to have functioning fucking brain stems and don’t need to coddle people literally trying to murder half the population.
Thanks! Big help, reading material and historical facts like this are the innoculation against falling for Far Right Ideology! Keep fighting the good fight!
Ha ha yes guess who would flag it.
All the extremists/fascish/religious extremism/… have had lots of their power taken away (history before for example 1900 is wild if you read between the lines. Just Horrible.), so they try to make smart talk where like 90% makes sense.
And thank you, I’ll try keeping fighting!
Well, they want to ban these words from appearing in laws, not from being used by anyone. So I guess it only deprives the government from free speech.
Is this project 2025? Like policies for the voter minorities that mentally liven in the 1950s.
Nah, they wanna take us even farther back to the likes of the Spanish Inquisition.
The Spanish Inquisition is too Catholic and Papist for the fundamentalist Protestant nutjobs here in the states.
So’s most of SCOTUS, but that doesn’t seem to bother them as long as they get their way.
These aren’t reasonable people bothered by such details as glaring hypocrisy…
Now, the question is, which is the “right” type of Protestant?
Prosperity Gospel sounds about their speed
On point.
I hope the Catholics in the US never have to face the day that they reap what they sowed. The unholy alliance they have with the evangelicals won’t last. And historically has always been the case. I hope they never experience it because I give a shit about people.
Only a secular government can have minorities, and most secular governments aren’t even that good at that.
At least the Spanish Inquisition stopped witch-hunts. I’m not so sure Republicans don’t want to start witch-hunts themselves.
To the likes of the Chinese Communist Revolution
I have a feeling that the 50s were far more progressive than the plan outlines.
Yeah, this is more of an “Iran 1979” kind of plan.
Consider that in 1965, someone wrote a book about how great it would be if cars had seat belts, and then everyone agreed and cars got seat belts. That’s what happens in a government that at least tries to care (about white people, anyway). Conservatives have spent the last half century making sure that nightmare never happens again.
Gotta keep the cogs (workers) oiled (safe) to prevent premature wear (worker deaths) so you don’t have to replace cogs so often because oil is cheaper than getting a new cog. That seems more akin to the Scandinavian model to me. Our system of “make more money than the previous year at all costs” means that the oil can get thinner and thinner every single year because planned obsolescence puts cogs out of service around the end of their natural life (so they have to work until they die) or even prior to their natural life (workplace deaths/disability), there are a ton of cogs to choose from, so replacing is less of a financial detriment, and the healthcare/pharmaceutical machine greatly benefits from the cogs that are hurt from the capitalism machine. This is the reason why republicans can easily do shitty things (that push capitalism to its limits) and why democrats have such difficulty doing what people want them to do (that goes against capitalism).
If we’re sure about being steadfast in this economic system, RCV has to be pushed as a ballot measure to calm things down a bit. A few states are getting RCV, but it’s not nearly enough. And while people wait for the next election and the one after that and the one after that for things to possibly get better, their friends and family are dying from this system. So expect protests, police forces, and prison systems to get bigger and bigger.
The listed excerpts are actually quite tame compared to what the actual plan is.
slashing U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) funding, dismantling the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security
invoking the Insurrection Act of 1807 to deploy the military for domestic law enforcement and directing the DOJ to pursue Trump adversaries
create a federally funded “American Academy” that would deliver online courses and grant free degrees that excluded “wokeness or jihadism”. The plan would also be funded by taxing the endowments of major universities
every state report exactly how many abortions take place within its borders, at what gestational age of the child, for what reason, the mother’s state of residence, and by what method
I stopped looking, not because there was any shortage of further crazy shit. There’s plenty more.
It’s a very ambitious list. The executive branch will be a smoldering wreck before they even get started. Let’s hope we get a 2028 election because 2032 and 2036 will be all about rebuilding.
create a federally funded “American Academy” that would deliver online courses and grant free degrees that excluded “wokeness or jihadism”.
I gotta say, this is hilarious both in how it delivers lip service to a popular idea (free public higher education) and outright mangles the implementation so its guaranteed to fail (why the fuck would any serious employer value an anti-wokeness degree?)
every state report exactly how many abortions take place within its borders
Government small enough to fit in your vagina.
Also like I was radicalized in college without my courses including any of that shit. Nothing drove me to the labor left harder than having it drilled into be how I’ll need to explain human suffering in dollars in my ergonomics class. And like the teacher wasn’t wrong and he was very conservative.
The public: “We want free public higher education!”
Fascists: “Okay, we’ll use tax money to shove PraegerU down everyone’s throat.”
The public: “Wait, no, not like that!”
Yeah, and there’s a fair amount of money behind this push…which like…I’m not American, don’t live in the States, but my sister and her wife do…and I’ve gotta figure out how to get them the fuck out if things go Trump again…
The UK gets whatever the US gets, it just sometimes lags by a few years depending on how long it takes for the US to excrete it over here.
As seen with all the decisions made by the Tories over the last decade.
While that’s partly true, Boris was your own fault. Let’s just blame the Australians.
Rupert Murdoch and his consequences have been a disaster for the anglosphere
also, living in the UK
Yeah, I’ve been following UK politics by way of TrashFuture podcast and I gotta say… your immigration plan is to deport people to Rwanda and your government just endorsed a Trans-Panic Committee to decide whether teenagers can consent to gender-affirming care.
And these are the moderate Labour Party positions. Liz Truss wants to do worse.
God damn, dude. Finding the worst people to run the country is not a competition. You can just let the Yanks have this one.
The Rwanda asylum scheme is and has been a Tory plan from its inception, and has never been endorsed by Labour. I’m not familiar with the TrashFuture podcast, but can recommend Pod Save the UK if you’re in the market for UK politics pods.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/24/labour-could-keep-sunaks-rwanda-policy-successful/
Baroness Jenny Chapman, a frontbencher who was Sir Keir’s political secretary, was asked whether Labour would axe the scheme if 10,000 migrants had been flown to Rwanda by the time of the election.
The peer, who was a member of the shadow cabinet, replied: “If it did, as a major major leap with a thought experiment, then we might be having a different conversation but there is absolutely no evidence this is going to work.”
Pretty big stretch to call that any kind of endorsement, don’t you think?
It’s cowardly triangulation intended to straddle the issue, rather than denounce the policy.
It was explicitly a hypothetical thought experiment. Starmer has already said they wouldn’t go through with the Rwanda plan, even if it did somehow prove effective. That’s all stated plainly in the article you linked (from the Telegraph!). It really seems like you’re just doubling down in the face of the evidence, rather than admitting to having made an incorrect statement.
They look at our right wing propaganda machine to see what “works.” They also get the added “benefit” of our toxic sludge that is online political discourse to feed off of. They don’t need new issues as they have a repository of shit to pick from…
Why does Americas #2 export need to be toxic right wing bullshit…
Wait, what’s #1? It’s freedom, right?
It’s “the news”.
Its how we get our hooks into you, so we can dissolve your NHS and replace it with our vastly more profitable private health care system.
Finding the worst people to run the country is not a competition.
I’m only here on a marriage visa, I’m not a P.R or citizen yet, so I’m not allowed to vote against having these bigots and con-men in power. Also, while labour is somewhat moderate, the Tories are in power, and they’re a bunch of fucking nut jobs. Labour can’t decide what they stand for anymore, which means they will stand for nothing, and the rest of the available parties will never get to power again. The available options are shit, just like in the States. And the Yanks think they invented having a shit government, but lemme tell you, the Brits have been fucking up their own government and foreign governments for a lot longer the the US has been a thing.
As a yank who’s followed British politics for a while, I wouldn’t blame labour’s bullshit on the tories. They seem to have done the same thing in response to thatcher that the Dems did to Reagan “ok sure we can be the neutral centrist party, we’ll be conservative while you be regressive”. When I see actual left wing ideas coming out of the UK it’s either from your queer folks, a small and vulnerable actual left wing, or from the SNP. Even now with the tories wildly unpopular Labour seems to be taking the attitude of “we should reach across the aisle and offer to do what they propose”.
But you are right we learned how to govern from two sources, you and the Iroquois confederacy, and the Iroquois functioned (they still do, but they did then too).
you and the Iroquois
Yeah, I’m Canadian buddy.
Edit: I’m not disagreeing with anything you said, just to tired to formulate a proper response, might come back to this tomorrow.
In a similar situation here in NZ. On a perm resident visa through partnership, can’t vote, keenly interested in being on my best behaviour here. Labour wasn’t amazeballs, but the current coalition is like watching a pack of dogs with diarrhoea tear through a quiet town. You just know it’ll be on someone else to clean up after them.
Yeah we’ll take the uk and Canada down with us. Honestly probably the EU and we’ll try for Russia as well
I doubt even Trump can fuck the UK harder than its fucking itself rn.
I mean, the FBI SHOULD be reviewed, audited, and have all their nazis purged, but good luck getting that done under either party.
I mean, the FBI SHOULD be reviewed, audited, and have all their nazis purged, but good luck getting that done under either party.
House Republicans All Vote Against Neo-Nazi Probe of Military, Police
Their plan doesnt call for a “nazi purge.” it calls to end any investigation of crime that involves a Republican.
Why make up a completely different scenario just to “both sides” and give the GOP cover for their actual plan that dismants the rule of law as long as youre on their team?
Their plan doesnt call for a “nazi purge.”
Why, sure it does! It’s just that it’s a purging by Nazis, not of them.
