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    If Joe Biden hasn’t done anything, then why does Trump have so many things to revoke and reverse?

    Feel like almost every day there’s a headline about something new that Trump promised to reverse (for the worse).

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        They’re against anything that the Democrats want. If the Democrats decided to fix the pothole out front, Republicans would rally in favor of potholes’ right to damage your car.

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      Biden hasn’t done well addressing the core issues driving the voters he needs–ie young voters and POC voters.

      Trump is doing his best to mobilize his supporters, as turnout is going to determine who wins in November. I’m not sure this was a wise move for him as it could energize his opposition as well. We shall see.

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      Not saying Biden has done nothing, but if you haven’t noticed yet, the GOP standard play is to take the most lukewarm democrat positions, pretend it’s the end of western civilization, and then promise things will be fixed once he’s elected.

      Ie, CRT, Wokeness, DEI, whatever “monster of the week” they pick as an enemy. They always swap it around.

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        whatever “monster of the week” they pick as an enemy

        Right wing outrage farmers have been doing exactly that for my enture life.

        D&D was the biggest evil ever, back in my teenage years.

        And before that it was the Satanic Panic.

        There’s always something they want us to be scared of.

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        CRT

        The liberals think they can push cathode ray tubes on the rest of us?? I’m fine with them using sinful processing components in their own homes, but this would be violating my rights as an american!

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        Because getting people riled up in culture wars gets their mind off of real issues. It’s the ol street magician trick of getting people to look at their right hand while the left hand is stealing your watch.

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      If Joe Biden hasn’t done anything, then why does Trump have so many things to revoke and reverse?

      A lot of it is posturing.

      Trump claims that Joe Biden made the military Woke and bimbofied all the generals. All the universities teach are the Perverted Arts. And the TikToks are turning your kids Chinese.

      But when he’s President, he promises to fix all of that on Day One.

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    He says a lot of things. A lot of it is verbal diarrhea to keep his crazy followers to keep following.

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    Great. Now he’s telling them trans people don’t count. They were already acting viciously. Now Dear Leader has officially endorsed them. Fucker.

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      And Caitlyn Jenner will STILL brag about how amazing he is and how much she loves him

      I really wish people would stop taking her seriously

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    My son is trans. Please vote for Joe Biden so he can have the protections he needs and I don’t have to stay up at night worrying about him.

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      I’ve been a trans woman for 10 years and an immigrant for much longer. This is one of the worst existential threats I’ve faced. I have had to sit down and discuss serious contingency plans with my partner if he wins because there is no chance I’m sticking around.

      I just want to exist dammit. I’m tired of being persecuted for simply existing.

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      I am very good friends with a trans women who I worked with for a number of years. She is seriously considering leaving the US because of this bullshit. So yes, please vote for Biden.

      Also, I hope you son is doing well! It’s a hell of a process.

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        Most people are unable to flee the U.S. Most countries will not simply accept someone without meeting specific criteria.

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        I want to leave the US but I honestly don’t know how. I have no idea if I have any skills that’d let me get hired by a non-us company, which is kinda what’s necessary to immigrate to another country, right?

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          there’s also the idea that you go to a college, possibly a community college, and then transfer to an out of country college for the degree, which I have heard is a great way to be able to live in a country, acclimate, and work from there

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        My best friend is trans and he’s considering doing the same. It’s so bullshit that he has to leave an entire life behind because the conservatwats are so hateful.

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          It’s slightly comforting to think that after they’ve forced every group out of the country with their hatred and vitriol, they’ll eventually start eating themselves.

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      Friendly reminder that everyone who believes in accelerationist BS is privileged af.

      Looking at you, Hexbear… and Lemmy.ml people who deleted my comments yesterday calling out Hexbear as tankies

      Sadly, the behavior isn’t limited to certain instances though

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          The idea that we cannot have real change without some for of revolution, so we should make things go to their extreme, and cause some kind of cultural revolution.

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            I see. I understand that as a path, but that seems like the “option of last resort” to me, and these guys want to make it the proposed one?

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              Fake communists. Hexbears. It’s just Anarchy, but the “fuck everything” type of anarchy.

              I understand the frustration and desire to burn everything down, but I just think that’s lazy and won’t end up working at all.

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                Those are just nihilist. Actual anarchist generally aren’t the fuck shit up kind. Those are generally angsty young teens with very little understanding.

                You are however 100% right about lemmy.ml. hexbear and Lemmygrad. They are all Marxist leninist. Which was an ill-conceived transitory authoritarian style anti communist government that was supposed to facilitate the build up to and transition to communism. But not communist itself. Which has failed everywhere it’s ever been tried. Much like capitalism if you go by it’s stated goals and ideals.

                They love to blather on and on and on about communism and how great and wonderful it would be. And it would be. But everything they do is actually in opposition to it so they are very much fake/ performatory communists.

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                  To be politely pedantic, while I agree generally, in the defense of nihilists, not all of them want to actively burn it down. They just don’t care and nothing matters. It’s the unique combination of anger and anti-establishment that makes the type of person we are talking about. And if they care enough to burn it down, I’d argue they can’t be a nihilist by definition.

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                  I hate that “Marxism-Leninism” refers to the brand of communism and socialism that Stalin practiced. It should be called “Stalinism”. From the little I know about Marx and Lenin is that Marx had some good ideas and while Lenin had some bad policies, he also had a genuine interest in trying to do what was best for Russia. Meanwhile Stalin let millions starve.

                  Also Marxist-Leninism is doomed to fail imo. I believe that in order for socialism to truly succeed, you must ensure that the world’s leading countries practice socialism; or at least ensure that your country is capable of fulfilling every step in the supply chain for any given good for now and the future, either by itself or via allies. Attempting to do it on your own like Marxist-Leninism suggests, is a road to failure because capitalism will attempt to starve you (and likely succeed at doing so).

                  Capitalism is inherently opposed to socialism because the true end game of capitalism is for an individual, or group of individuals, to own everything. However, they can’t own everything if a country’s culture is opposed to that form of selfishness. Additionally, the capitalist’s peasants might get funny ideas if they see a country based on mutual goodwill succeeding. Stalin played right into the hands of capitalists. He deserves to have the inherently flawed and doomed-to-fail ideology named after him.

                  Fuck, I barely got any sleep last night and I can’t tell if I’m being coherent or not. Additionally, now I have a conspiracy theory that this was all intentional. Tying a form of socialism that was oppressive and doomed to fail to Marx and Lenin was an intentional move by capitalists to conflate Stalin’s garbage with a legitimate desire and attempt to create a better world. By doing so, you create the belief that even Lenin and Marx supported oppression and that oppression is therefore inherently a part of socialism and communism. As such, by calling themselves Marxist-Leninists, they are falling into a trap created by capitalists to defame such ideologies like communism and socialism.

                  Also I wanted to make a comment about how capitalism is like economic heroin or something: extremely enticing and addictive; but I’ve got no clue where to put it.

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            No, it’s people who think accelerating the country into a hyper capitalist fascist hellhole will lead to the accelerated collapse of the capitalist system. Then revolution will bring the promised land to them. Of course they don’t realize that collapse isn’t necessarily guaranteed.

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          Someone who thinks we should have the worst right now and get it over with.

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        Hey not everyone from ml is a dipshit. Some of us just stumbled into ml because it was a stable and popular instance when we joined.

        Hexbear on the other hand? I don’t think you would just accidentally join that place, at least not without getting banned the first time you say something against their pro fascist hive mind.

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          I just had another comment on ml deleted today for saying some people on ml are bootlickers. Becoming less and less of a fan lately

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    There was a time when people just murdered people like this.

    Sure, they were decried and had their days in court—

    But you know what we didn’t have? Hitler presidents.

    Now look what we’ve got. No “corrective measures”, no fear, and fuckbags getting elected who think (quite by mistake) that they’re gods.

    It’s time to remind golden turd brain exactly how and why this country was founded, why it even e it’s in the first place.

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      Who exactly are you thinking of? Most presidents/candidates that got murdered were killed by reactionaries.

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        You asked and answered the question in the same sentence, proving that you are only here in bad faith, to troll.

        Are you getting paid for this?

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          That’s the beauty of it. The right has created an insatiable monster. They don’t pay them, they feed them fear and watch them grow fat. They wait for them to try to overthrow the government like they tried on January 6th and when the treason fails they disavow all knowledge. No money needs to change hands anymore, they just make sure they are well fed.

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          Wow, that’s a huge wall of text to show you didn’t understand what I was saying. There’s never been a case of left wing vigilantes successfully killing a fascist or fascist adjacent president.

          Lincoln got killed because he freed the slaves. Kennedy got killed by the CIA (probably) because he didn’t want to keep letting them do coups everywhere.

          Meanwhile nobody murdered Andrew Jackson or any of the other right wing bastards, and those that came close (like Hinckley) didn’t do it for ideology.

          So I’m asking, when was this mythical time in US history where you were killing fascists (domestically)?

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            I’m not talking about Lincoln here— but go ahead and make excuses for fascists

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          I can’t for the life of me figure out how that comment triggered such a bizarre response from you.

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            Yep, was tempted to continue the conversion but their other reply is even more unhinged. I was trying to figure out which event they were talking about, but I guess I’ll never find out.

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    I don’t get it. Well I do. But I’ve yet to have a satisfactory response to the following :

    Intersex people exist. That is, people born with both sexual organs. Therefore by their existence we know that there is a blurred line between genders and those people exist there. Even if I go along with them that transgender behavior is a mental illness (it’s not, this is just a thought experiment), what exactly do they propose we do about intersex individuals who are literally neither male nor female?

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      Well do I have exactly the brand new 1h37min queer video essay for you!

      TL;DW: The modern concept of gender as separate from sex was not (originally) a progressive move. It was conservatives’ reaction to the medical discoveries of the nebulous nature of biological sex, to justify imposing the gender binary on trans people and especially intersex children.

      Conservatives claim to care a lot about protecting trans kids from “radical decisions”, but the places that enact legislation to prevent teenagers from using puberty blockers are the same places that still allow and encourage mutilating surgeries on intersex babies.
      It is not an accident. It is ideologically consistent with conservatives’ drive to impose their religious and cultural vision of the binary gender as a completely fixed universal truth, and they’ll use extreme violence to ensure it remains binary, fixed and universal.

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      They just want yet another group to stick their boots into. The reasons don’t matter at all.

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        Exactly. Being able to blame their problems on ‘other people’ is the basis of their identity.

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        Yeah, that is scary. Chosen by whom? I’d imagine if anyone reading this paused and thought, “If I was that baby, who would I want to make that choice?” I think everyone would pick themselves. Men reading this would wanna pick male and women reading this would wanna pick female.

        Anyway it’s fun to think about. But I’m done thinking.

        I’m really stoned and ranty. Bed time.

        Thanks for the chat!

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      You’ll never get one, because it’s not a logical position. It’s just hateful.

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      They don’t actually care about “the children” or people in general and the concept of nuance is non-existent in their worldview.

      They literally don’t care how many folks are hurt by these laws. Ethics? They’ve never heard the word before. Its sad, scary and infuriating.

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      Oh, they include it in the bills that ban trans care: continue forcing “corrective” surgery on intersex people. That kind of surgery on the genitals of children is always exempted from the trans care bans.

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        Using conservative logic, should the babies, made by God, not be left as He made them?

        It also seems cruel to mutilate a child born between genders before they have the opportunity to come of age and know who they are. I’ve heard multiple accounts of intersex people, who the doctor removed one of their sexual organs then become suicidal when they reach adulthood because they essentially feel like a castrated man, or the female equivalent.

        Just imagine you were born and had your sexual organs removed as baby, how would you feel? Pause and imagine living life castrated. Does being conservative simply require a lack of imagination about these things? It seems so obvious.

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          Circumcisioning infants is pretty fucked up in my book too.

          Saw myself naked on DMT in a mirror. The nerves remember that shit.

          Imagine, first thing you coming to the world and your parents have part of you cut off. We treat infants this way everyday in the U.S.

          Yet, zero moral panic from the Right. Because this is about stoking the fires of prejudice. And not saving children or whatever other bullshit the latest demogogue uses to target transpeople.

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    But hey, CAiTLyn JeNner thinks Trump is the most LGBTQ friendly president. That’s settles any debate, y’all.

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    If you are against a child taking a puberty suppressing drug they want to take at age 10, but are ok with tearing off the genitals (not circumcision, the whole thing) of a day old baby, you aren’t against transition, you are against children’s autonomy.

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    Wow, what a man of the people… Truly a candidate who has the best interests of every American at heart.

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      Any time trump says ‘the American people’, what he actually means is himself.

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    So…I’m a Christian and still can’t for the life of me understand the appeal of these vicious, hateful positions.

    I’m even pretty direct-to-the-bible in my theology, thus the ideas that we are “fearfully and wonderfully made,” and that God doesn’t make mistakes, lead me to believe that choosing a different gender than you were born with is probably missing out on God’s best for us.

    Yes despite some common ground with the “religious right”, I’m still to this day completely at a loss as to how you would get from literally anything you find in the bible to encouraging or applauding the removal of protections for very at-risk persons.

    I promise, you can not read the Bible as a serious undertaking and arrive where these people have.

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      I’m sure as a result you do not wear glasses, refuse medical care, etc right? God doesn’t make mistakes, right???

      I have news for you, every bigot thinks their theology is direct to the Bible. They’re right, it’s a despicable book full of vile conduct, most of which is supported by the ugly nonexistent tetragrammaton tyrant you worship.

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      There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one…

      • Galatians 3:28

      This is one of the few sentiments that’s both in the earliest primary source documents of Jesus and the apocrypha:

      “…when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female…”

      • Gospel of Thomas 22

      When Salome inquired when the things concerning which she asked should be known, the Lord said: When ye have trampled on the garment of shame, and when the two become one and the male with the female is neither male nor female.

      • Lost Gospel of the Egyptians via Clement

      At the time Jesus was actually alive, the interpretation of Genesis 1:27’s “So God created humans in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them” was widely thought to mean that there was a hermaphroditic original ‘Adam.’ This was widely discussed just a few decades after the time of Jesus among the Egyptian Jews in Alexandria, particularly Philio, contemporary to Paul.

      As well, at the time he was alive there was a very brutal form of forced hormone alteration by castrating prepubescent boys to leave them more feminine. Only a few decades after Jesus’s crucifixion the emperor of Rome even married someone this was done to (just a few years before the extant gospel of Mark is finalized, talking about marriage only being between a man and a woman).

      The ways in which a historical Jesus would have been thinking about the notions of gender or sexuality may be different than you might think back then.

      In my mind, the historical people at the center of the tradition has always been more important than the echo of them leftover in books confirmably marred by edits, revisions, and omissions. For both the old book and the new.

      And I think the historical Jesus might have agreed.

      His disciples said to him, “Twenty-four prophets have spoken in Israel, and they all spoke of you.”

      He said to them, “You have disregarded the living one who is in your presence, and have spoken of the dead.” […]

      Jesus said, “Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him.”

      The people who had a version of Jesus saying this also thought he was talking about matter being made up of indivisible parts, something only proven to be true beyond any doubt around a century ago.

      It’s easy for false prophets to cast weeds among the wheat, but it’s very hard to plant seeds that mature well with the times. To do that takes true foresight. Eventually as the years drag on, what was wheat and what was weeds inevitably becomes clearer as each grows - it’s an inescapable separator between truth and fiction.

      The Old Testament is flat out wrong when Elihu claims in Job that “why it rains and where snow comes from is beyond human understanding.” This knowledge had even become known in Jesus’s time, in the same Roman book published just 50 years before he was born in the Roman empire which also talked about Greek atomism and survival of the fittest.

      The church, in an age where people were still peeing on their hands to clean them, appointed itself an arbiter of what was wheat and what was weeds and proceeded to uproot anything it declared a weed.

      TL;DR: Having blind faith in those who have even more blind faith sounds a bit like the blind leading the blind to me. Maybe one would be less in danger of blaspheming the holy spirit and the notion of divine revelation if avoiding declaring anything absolutely true or false for sure until having sufficient confirmable information to evaluate it.

      That “wait and watch” approach is even the methodology of how the aforementioned book 50 years before Jesus got all that other stuff right about evolution and atoms. A book sharing word for word similarities with one of Jesus’s most famous parables, about how only what survived to reproduce multiplied. Also the only parable in the earliest written canonized gospel which has a “secret explanation” for what was a clearly public telling of the parable itself to thousands.

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      If god doesn’t make mistakes then the existence of trans people is not a mistake but rather a test of basic regard and compassion or something of the sorts.

      There’s one word in what you said that’s the lynchpin: “choice”. Trans people don’t choose to be trans. Who the fuck would choose to be dysphoric.

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        Yeah exactly, trans people don’t choose to be trans; they choose to treat their dysphoria. When they don’t, they often die.

        The medically proven effective and successful ways to do that include transitioning, hormone treatment, etc…

        Medically proven ineffective ways are what republicans push for and is what’s happening all across the US: conversion therapy, denying gender dysphoria exists at all, public shame and ridicule, exclusion from society by eliminating housing, employment, and other non-discrimination protections, painting trans people as delusional/dangerous, denial of healthcare, having the state take trans children away from their parents, claiming “transness” is a social contagion, trying to criminalize being trans in schools and in public by banning dressing in a way that’s not stereotypical or traditional for one’s sex/gender, and mocking the 40% suicide rate among trans people that are denied care and lack social support.

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      I disagree with you about the bible stuff, but I have great respect for how you handle it.

      You might disagree with trans people’s interpretation of their bodies, but it sounds like you hold more highly their rights to be kept safe. Even if they may be doing something you may disagree with, we agree that vulnerable people should be protected, especially when they’re not harming others.

      It’s almost like there’s no asterisk after “Love thy neighbour”!

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      Yeah, doesn’t the bible say not to judge, and to leave judgement up to the all-knowing God who is infinitely more experienced than his followers? I assume you agree with that. I wish most Christians would put that into practice and focus on being good to one another. I’m glad that you recognize the anti-trans hate and cruelty when you see it.

      I’m so tired of cis people telling trans people that trans people are immoral, or that trans people don’t deserve equal rights, or don’t deserve to exist in society, or are lesser than cis people. And then cis people have the audacity to pass laws that vilify trans existence, restrict trans rights and strip them of their autonomy.

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      Deuteronomy 23:1: English Standard Version “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the LORD.

      Maybe let’s not base any ideas of morality or law on the bible full stop.

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      I’m sorry but this logic doesn’t make sense to me. If everyone is perfect the way they are, then Trump is also perfect the way he is, and he is a monster in disguise, far from remotely acceptable.

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      None of these people have read the bible, probably never even opened one. Their beliefs are the culmination of their echo chamber of ignorance - what their social peers have told them is ‘in the bible’.

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    He just has to say something all the time. Cant talk about anything real so he verbally fantasizes

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      I just had a disagreement with someone on Lemmy a couple days ago who said Biden did nothing for the LGBTQ+ community. Maybe we just need more Trump headlines to educate people? Y’know, since they don’t read headlines about Biden

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        It doesn’t matter. Cognitive dissonance is a lifestyle for these people. Which is why they’re the perfect tools for fascists

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          It’s like half of the general population supports him, and the other half supports Biden. Who would have thought different opinions on the topic would arise in a public forum.

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            It’s like half of the general population supports him, and the other half supports Biden.

            Less than a quarter support Trump.

            The bigger problem is that almost thalf of the population doesn’t vote at all.

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              How can the polls show trump ahead and only a quarter support Trump? Are you saying most democrats don’t vote and only Republicans do?

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                Yes, also polls call landlines. What demographic of people have landlines and will sit in the phone answering questions.

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                  Okay fine. I’ll accept that. How do you know that he has 25% of the vote? Is there some other method other than polls to determine support? Genuinely curious what your logic behind the numbers are and where 25% comes from. I just feel like both sides are so entrenched in their opinions on their party that they can’t possibly think there are people who would support the other.

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          They’re using the classic Republican move of encouraging abstaining from voting by highlighting Biden’s poor decisions. Trump’s supporters will vote him in if enough abstain. Inaction is action.

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          Nah, I think Republicans are so deranged that they would be convinced any shortcomings are some deep state, woke, FBI, Democrat sabotage.

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              I mean, I speak from experience. I personally know a lot of Republicans (all boomers) and they would genuinely believe that. At every opportunity they are talking about the deep state, some woke shit and how corrupt the FBI is, and how there’s this massive conspiracy to assassinate trump. They all have a nearly religious view of him saying that if he dies, he’d be a “martyr” for Republicans, so that the “silent majority” will finally take a stand.

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              When it comes to Trump it’s literally only naive, stupid or evil that are possible explanations. All are bad.

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        I think this is something I’ve come to realize about every candidate, even trump, when we get to the polls.Through 4 years - unless something specific stands out(like how Bush got to ride 9-11 sympathy 3 years later for reelection) most of their accomplishments and failures (especially the ones in the first 2 years) are hard to remember and require a primer before November.

        “What did turnip do that was so bad in his first 2 years? Shit can’t remember, but he fucked up covid real bad and that’s enough to vote biden”

        So yes its nice that he is refreshing us all on what actually had been accomplished to ensure we are all informed voting. Even if he is trying to be an ass about it.

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        Biden did a lot of good shit. People saying he’s the same or even worse than Trump have completely lost the plot or are just RuZZian bots / useful idiots parroting RuZZian propaganda.

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              I can translate you you need: the legislation that he passed has nice names but in reality each bill is filled with spending for corporations and special interests (colloquially known as ‘pork barrel spending’).

              For example his climate change bill has subsidies and payouts for the coal industry, his CHIPs Act had no oversight or specification about how the money should be spent etc. Biden has approved more oil and drilling contracts than even Trump.

              Many Democratic voters get their information from big corporate media outlets, who have a vested interest in protecting corporate interests themselves. These voters end up recieving very little factual information to base their decisions on, and instead end up thinking Biden has “Done a lot of good” because they were given a vague feeling that he has by the corporate media.

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                You are clearly not well informed. Are you not American?

                Presidents don’t make legislation. They don’t introduce bills and except in unusual circumstances are expected to sign them. They can’t modify them.

                Secondly, your claims that there is a bill that subsidizes the coal industry is without a source. Please provide a reference to this bill as “climate change bill” is to vague for me to know which you mean.

                Thirdly, your claim that the CHIPs Act has no oversight is incorrect. Here’s a helpful quote from a helpful FAQ provided by the Congressional Research Service:

                Congress may wish to exercise its oversight authority with respect to implementation of the programs and policies in the act and their effectiveness in addressing U.S. economic and national security concerns. Among other potential oversight issues: the allocation of incentive funding among various types of chip manufacturing (e.g., logic chips and memory chips, mature chips and leading-edge chips); the adequacy of funding to meet the act’s objectives; and the effectiveness of guardrails established in the act to prevent the use of incentive funding from enabling further investments in countries of concern or from being used for stock buybacks or dividends.

                My suggestion, for future reference, is that if you are going to make claims you source them. They will be much more forceful and factual and you won’t sound like you have vague feelings about something.

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                  The president does have the ability to block legislation, it’s why you often here it referred to the president signing various items into law.

                  My suggestion, for future reference, is that if you are going to make claims you source them. They will be much more forceful and factual and you won’t sound like you have vague feelings about something.

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                That has very little to do with my statement. I’m very much aware of Biden’s shortcomings, I’m just not as delusional to think that Trump would be the better, let alone a good option here. And if we look at it historically he’s still, for what it’s worth, one of the better US presidents too.

                The climate topic is just a mess anyway, because ultimately neither politicians, CEO’s, nor voters actually want actual climate action being taken, because of how it would affect them. It’s simply too late at this point to have sufficient climate action without major repercussions, so people rather live out their remaining comfy life and blend out what it means for younger people (who are, small minority aside, just as deluded on that topic) and future generations.

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        Yes it’s kind of mind-boggling. People pushed for decades and decades and decades for marriage equality. The Obama administration had no intention of tackling it at all. Until Joe Biden spoke. He’s literally one of the reasons we already have marriage equality. For however long we might keep it. Not to mention the nlrb union busting decision. Or the recent FTC abolishment of non-compete contracts for most people. There is no question that Biden is an outdated crusty old dumbass. Who may be far less Progressive or left-leaning than most of us would like. But he’s also ironically one of the most positively consequential presidents of the last 50 to 70 years since FDR.

        The reason most people have no idea about all this. Is because they were all victories against the ownership / capital class. The ones who own all the major media. They may make a low-key passing mention of these victories. Then never bring it up again ever. But they will harp for days months and years about how some policy hurts businesses or “wealthy” americans. Manufacturing consent for their owners. It’s all by design. No one should get their information from publicly traded companies.