As far as Internet discussions go, I’ve learned that you literally just have to grow a bit of a thicker skin and not take everything too seriously. Especially the abusive stuff.
The people responding to you do not know you personally, in fact they pretty much know nothing about you except what you posted. Something that’s harmless and inoffensive to one person or relatable to another can be off-putting and offensive to the next. The only way to achieve at least a little bit of clarity is to engage in an open discussion about it if it seems worth the time and effort.
Otherwise, my rule of thumb is that if someone just starts blasting insults at me they’ve already lost the argument and I’m just going to ignore them because that’s their own issue to figure out. It might be frustrating sometimes, especially if you think you’ve made a valid point and all you get is hate in return, but at least you’ll retain your sanity. And perhaps it’s a chance to rethink how to better communicate your point, but I don’t think going out there and wholesale accusing an entire gender is going to do anything to calm the waves.
Some women also have a way of doing things that are particularly off-putting to men, so it’s equally possible that the author THOUGHT she was saying something relatively innocuous while actually coming off aggressive or accusatory.
Either way, it’s a stupid comic because it does nothing to solve the issue — it just stereotypes men as being aggressive and brutish. This is certainly not going to help improve the situation in any way.
Yeah the comic is pretty dumb, it’s definitely an over simplification. Just recognize that dudes being aggressive is a thing, even if it’s not all dudes, because it certainly isn’t.
People online can be rather hostile sometimes, yes. But not only isn’t it always men doing it, men are also quite frequently on the receiving end of it.
if that was what u meant then there is not reason to say what u said, everyone knows everyone can be aggressive, according to u ur previous comment is basically u saying “the sky is blue”. be honest with urself u know what u meant.
Bruh, we’re in sma thread where someone denied the possibility of men being irrationally aggressive. I’m merely counting and saying that, no, that is a thing that happens sometimes. If they had also claimed women can’t be irrationally aggressive I would have addressed that, too.
no from the look of the modlog that is definitely a lie, again be honest with urself and me i like honesty too.
pretty sure op said that this is extremely rare and that there are 2 sides to a story.
also im not convinced that in the same context but with women switch in u would have said the same that sounds like bs, like if someone made a comic complaining about abuse from women and someone in the comment said something like “this is sexist and talking about this is a distraction from real sexism because the overwhelming majority of people who are abused are actually women so this is just a tactic and people who talk about it dont actually care” u would be the exact kinda person who would agree.
I didn’t say it’s impossible, I said that it’s rare enough to be considered a mental illness. Perhaps not so much on the Internet, but the fact that there are clearly two people physically having a discussion made me assume that this particular conversation happened IRL, not online.
And yes, I certainly have experienced similar — basically in any gender-based discussion on Lemmy there’ll be people trying to curse and attack you unless you always 100% take the female side of the issue, which I won’t do because men have a right to be men. It’s certainly true that there are a ton of things they can do to improve, but consider that every day, new people show up to the same old topics and they have to go through their own learning process as well.
In short, the basic rule of online discussion should be to never ever take anything personally because unless you know the other person IRL, it most certainly isn’t.
Yeah, I’m gonna disagree with you here. Lots of people are really comfortable being excessive shits online, especially when they have some sort of grievance. PizzaCake is like a fucking lodestone for disdain, so this has definitely happened. Worse has definitely happened.
Assuming, of course, that we’re both on the same page that this comic is an illustration of an online conversation and not, like, meant to be taken literally.
If this is supposed to be an illustration of an online conversation, I could certainly see that happening, but I due to the quite extensive use of body language I certainly did not assume that.
Either way, I’ve seen a few comics of hers and they were frankly all man-hating garbage. I’m sorry to say this but she is literally this meme:
That’s how it happened in her mind, perhaps.
I mean sure, I know men can be a little rough and abraisive at times, but this literally psychopath behavior (especially the last panel).
No man in their right mind would lay it on this thick without some serious provocation.
Well there’s definitely no literal psychopaths on the internet, at least we’re safe here…
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As far as Internet discussions go, I’ve learned that you literally just have to grow a bit of a thicker skin and not take everything too seriously. Especially the abusive stuff.
The people responding to you do not know you personally, in fact they pretty much know nothing about you except what you posted. Something that’s harmless and inoffensive to one person or relatable to another can be off-putting and offensive to the next. The only way to achieve at least a little bit of clarity is to engage in an open discussion about it if it seems worth the time and effort.
Otherwise, my rule of thumb is that if someone just starts blasting insults at me they’ve already lost the argument and I’m just going to ignore them because that’s their own issue to figure out. It might be frustrating sometimes, especially if you think you’ve made a valid point and all you get is hate in return, but at least you’ll retain your sanity. And perhaps it’s a chance to rethink how to better communicate your point, but I don’t think going out there and wholesale accusing an entire gender is going to do anything to calm the waves.
Some weirdos take correction or rejection as a personal attack, and subscribe to the ethos that the best defense is a good offense.
Some women also have a way of doing things that are particularly off-putting to men, so it’s equally possible that the author THOUGHT she was saying something relatively innocuous while actually coming off aggressive or accusatory.
Either way, it’s a stupid comic because it does nothing to solve the issue — it just stereotypes men as being aggressive and brutish. This is certainly not going to help improve the situation in any way.
Yeah the comic is pretty dumb, it’s definitely an over simplification. Just recognize that dudes being aggressive is a thing, even if it’s not all dudes, because it certainly isn’t.
People online can be rather hostile sometimes, yes. But not only isn’t it always men doing it, men are also quite frequently on the receiving end of it.
so true only men can be aggressive that is a uniquely male thing so its worth pointing it out over the reality that all people are aggressive at times
Aggressive men exist ≠ only men can be aggressive. This is why we teach a small amount of formal logic in school.
if that was what u meant then there is not reason to say what u said, everyone knows everyone can be aggressive, according to u ur previous comment is basically u saying “the sky is blue”. be honest with urself u know what u meant.
Bruh, we’re in sma thread where someone denied the possibility of men being irrationally aggressive. I’m merely counting and saying that, no, that is a thing that happens sometimes. If they had also claimed women can’t be irrationally aggressive I would have addressed that, too.
no from the look of the modlog that is definitely a lie, again be honest with urself and me i like honesty too.
pretty sure op said that this is extremely rare and that there are 2 sides to a story.
also im not convinced that in the same context but with women switch in u would have said the same that sounds like bs, like if someone made a comic complaining about abuse from women and someone in the comment said something like “this is sexist and talking about this is a distraction from real sexism because the overwhelming majority of people who are abused are actually women so this is just a tactic and people who talk about it dont actually care” u would be the exact kinda person who would agree.
The irony here is so thick, it’s absolutely incredible.
Unlike the guy in the OP, I have been quite civil and respectful, and I certainly haven’t called anyone slur words, much less without any provocation.
Avoiding slurs is good, but you’re still claiming that her experience is impossible because you’ve never experienced the same thing.
I didn’t say it’s impossible, I said that it’s rare enough to be considered a mental illness. Perhaps not so much on the Internet, but the fact that there are clearly two people physically having a discussion made me assume that this particular conversation happened IRL, not online.
And yes, I certainly have experienced similar — basically in any gender-based discussion on Lemmy there’ll be people trying to curse and attack you unless you always 100% take the female side of the issue, which I won’t do because men have a right to be men. It’s certainly true that there are a ton of things they can do to improve, but consider that every day, new people show up to the same old topics and they have to go through their own learning process as well.
In short, the basic rule of online discussion should be to never ever take anything personally because unless you know the other person IRL, it most certainly isn’t.
Yeah, I’m gonna disagree with you here. Lots of people are really comfortable being excessive shits online, especially when they have some sort of grievance. PizzaCake is like a fucking lodestone for disdain, so this has definitely happened. Worse has definitely happened.
Assuming, of course, that we’re both on the same page that this comic is an illustration of an online conversation and not, like, meant to be taken literally.
If this is supposed to be an illustration of an online conversation, I could certainly see that happening, but I due to the quite extensive use of body language I certainly did not assume that.
Either way, I’ve seen a few comics of hers and they were frankly all man-hating garbage. I’m sorry to say this but she is literally this meme: