• njm1314@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    That fucker is making it a challenge I’ll give him that. Just shut up about it, that’s all he has to do. Shutting up about genocide is how we’ve ignore genocides across the world for the last 50 years. It works. Most people don’t even know Jimmy Carter health carry out a genocide. Jimmy fucking Carter. Just don’t talk about an Americans will immediately forget. So Biden please shut the fuck up. Join the fraternity of every president of the last well all of our history in committing genocide that isn’t well-publicized.

    • Krono@lemmy.today
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      Jimmy Carter was able to quietly support genocide because there were only 3 TV news stations at the time. None of them would mention Cambodia, you had to read the 14th page of the NYT to actually be informed.

      This level of broad-based ignorance is no longer possible in the internet era.

      And beside that, “just shut up and keep genociding” is a shocking and evil stance to take. Ignoring morality and hiding behind realpolitik is how we get figures like Kissinger, Netanyahu, and Hitler.

  • UsernameHere@lemmings.world
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    2 months ago

    Top text: “When you pretend you want Trump to lose”

    Bottom text: “But you really want Trump to win and it’s obvious”

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      Sigh… I am so tired of this gaslighting.

      Just because people criticize Biden does not mean they are a follower of the MAGA cult.

      Biden can do so much better then this. People want a reason to support him.

      Instead we are being blamed for Biden’s failures, because Biden chooses not to listen. While every time we try to change course we are being told we are anti-democratic. That we are trying to get Trump elected.

      Like the average voter has more power then the president.

      At this point, I am on no-body’s side, because no one is anti-genocide.

      • Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip
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        I’m Asian and every time I criticize biden the comment is down voted. Sometimes they also call me Trump supporter. It’s honestly sad looking at the state of Americans.

  • scarabine@lemmynsfw.com
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    2 months ago

    When all you want is for Trump to win, but your only winning strategy in the playbook is what Reagan did to fuck over Carter back in 1980. Gotta drive those social media vibes and it worked once, right?

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      Aiding genocide really isn’t a good look. It’d be nice if the current administration didn’t. Also, threatening the ICC with sanctions reflects rather poorly.

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      but your only winning strategy in the playbook is what Reagan did to fuck over Carter back in 1980

      Netanyahu 🤝Ayatollah Khomeini

      🤝 = helping US fascists win so their own brand of fascism can continue unopposed

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      Reagan? Hell, hEr EmAiLz and Pizza pedos is the same strategy. That was just yesterday, apparently.

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        I don’t need to sleuth through Biden’s emails to see he’s in complete willful denial of Israel’s genocide. Wait that’s not fair, I suppose there’s still a question about Israel’s intent… Complete willful denial of Isreal’s war crimes. That’s been well established, right?

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            Idk, how much information is enough to make a determination on whether Israel is committing war crimes? Certainly not much more, if the ICC is already pursuing arrest warrants

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              Let’s take it as a given. You’re saying you know all the reasons the US administration has to still support Israel. Don’t even need to look.

              You Do. Not. Know. I’m not saying I know, I’m not saying they’re good reasons. I’m saying it’s such a dense and complex political issue that people study it for their whole lives, entire consultancies exist to support it, and a server full of recent graduates who want to support trump saying they know it all are full of shit.

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                If only someone was pushing them to articulate their reasons for defending the war crimes that are objectively happening

                Not doing so is doing nothing to address the suspicion that they might be allowing them to happen because they have imperial interests in the region

                It’s only complicated if you think neocolonialism is a valid means to an imperialist end. If you reject those outright it gets pretty simple

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                  If only someone was pushing them to articulate their reasons for defending the war crimes that are objectively happening

                  You understand it’s not a good idea to do that for some of the reasons right? What reasons might those be? Can you think of any?

                  Not doing so is doing nothing to address the suspicion that they might be allowing them to happen because they have imperial interests in the region

                  “Address the suspicion”? To have a democratic western-friendly foothold in the heart of the oil countries? You need to hear that reason that is so public it’s a cliche? What other ‘imperial interests’ are there? Exploiting labor or something? Setting up cotton plantations in Israel? I’m not suspecting those, but hey surprise me.

                  It’s only complicated if you think neocolonialism is a valid means to an imperialist end. If you reject those outright it gets pretty simple

                  I think you know you’re reaching with this one but ok. Let’s use “1. The policy or practice of a wealthy or powerful nation in extending its influence into a less developed one, especially in exploiting that nation’s resources.” unless you want to argue some finer nuance with ‘neocolonialism’. Why do you think Israel is ‘less developed’? What resources is the US exploiting that isn’t the ‘democratic foothold in the middle east’?

                  An “imperialist end” huh boy that does sound bad, what end would that be? Preventing eternal war between eternally sworn enemies in a gas station the rest of the world uses? Probably not what you were going for - yours probably has the word genocide in it I bet.

                  So if it’s so simple - you write the check. What’s your simple solution? Lemme save you the time complaining about it; you’ll say cut off all aid to Israel, I’ll point out Bibi has specifically promised that won’t stop him and then I’ll point out that russia would love to buy some more Israel and you’ll either love that idea or pretend it doesn’t matter or - hey maybe you have the answer, you’re the super genius person the world has been waiting for to solve this problem. But I doubt it.

                  And as far as some “Fake nuance to arguments”, I’m not saying that’s not a thing, I’m saying prove it. Gimme the simple version you’ve got all printed up on colorful paper. What is it? Is it genius? Is it feasible? Is it even coherent?

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    Watch Biden supporters lash out at communists and muslims if Biden fails to get reelected, rather than looking at the horrendous position the Democrats have taken.

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    It’s literally not a genocide. If Hamas gave up the hostages and their leaders who committed Oct 7th the war would end. That’s how you know it’s not a genocide. With facts and logic and stuff.

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    It’s a good thing that most of the people that say they aren’t voting aren’t of voting age to begin with.

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    Condemning collective punishment to a lesser degree than many find adequate is not the same thing as “defending genocide”

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    When all you want is for Trump to lose, it means you have zero plan. Obviously if you don’t have a plan, other people are gonna carry out theirs instead.