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    Genocide deniers and enablers also happen to be in the pocket of the regime that wants us all wasting our lives in traffic when we are not working to make them rich.

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    First New York Times came for the Palestinians. And I didn’t speak out because I was not a Palestinian.

    Then they came for my e-bike and there was no one left to speak for me.

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      Compared to? Cars? Yes, absolutely.

      To e-bikes? Hard to tell, but it’s easier to roll out e-bikes and repaint traffic lines then it is to install new track and e-bikes aren’t tied to a schedule.

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        How many charging stations will be available? At what cost? And if they are fought against by cities fully invested in.mass transit, who covers the costs to clear that up?

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          How many charging stations will be available? At what cost?

          The fuck are those questions? You want a detailed roll out plan for a hypothetical city? No know I can’t answer that question with any useful details. It’s going to be different for every city, but as many as necessary.

          And if they are fought against by cities fully invested in.mass transit

          Why would a city that already has mass transit plans need a full on e-bike plan? But even with busses and trains, limited e-bikes can still be useful for people who can’t work on a schedule, the mass transit path is inconvenient, or live far enough away from the bus/train stations and want to e-bike to them.

          who covers the costs to clear that up?

          The fuck is this? E-bikes aren’t forever. The bikes and charging stations require maintenance and repair. If you want to discontinue them, just come up with a sunsetting plan. Who pays for them? Either the state via taxes or a private entity. Citibike is already planning e-bike rollout. Just follow that model.

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    Dude fuck e-bikes too, one of my closest friends was killed on one of those things, I hate cars too (especially the panel van that killed him), but let’s not pretend e-bikes are in anyway safe

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    I wonder if it has anything g to do with all the advertisements for luxury cars in every edition of the paper… :-/ Cheers for the post.

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    Having an ebike in New York is what having a car in any other major American city is supposed to work like (but can’t because car-centric infrastructure is terrible city design)

    Nothing is more than 30 minutes from me. There’s parking everywhere. Only requires low cost infrastructure to be usable. Traffic jams are infrequent and short-lived. Ownership and fuel costs are low. Environmentally friendly. Quiet. Great for recreation. Is very safe for the user and pedestrians.

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        You can actually buy bike insurance if you are particularly worried. And some home/renters insurance includes protection against bike theft.

        Whether the yearly cost of it plus the deductible ends up being higher than just replacing it is the gamble you always take with insurance, however.

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      I live in São Paulo and have everything on a 30-40 minutes ride, but because my bike insurance demands a proper bike rack or the policy is null, I have a lot of problems with the parking part. Like supermarkets, bakeries, pharmacies and others always have 2-5 cars parking space, but is extremely rare finding one of those with a proper bike rack.

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    With ICE, you control the population by controlling the oil. Like rest of the world has to eat up price raise without much retaliation, what else you’re going to do, you have to work and you depend on oil. But since China is the major producer of batteries and EVs, the nations that dictate the policies are losing that control.

    So US does what it does best, propagandize the masses. Mass produced solar panels are bad, EVs are unreliable, e-bikes are a menace.

    The world powers will turn the world to ruins if it serves their interests.

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        A lot of people are able to recognize the shit side of the world and be strong enough to not fall apart because of it.

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            If you don’t think major media outlets run propaganda to protect the interests of the countries they work in, and the people they work for, I have bad news for you.

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              Of course they do, but that doesn’t mean that every bat shit crazy conspiracy theory has any credibility.

              In this case, ebikes and scooters are controversial. Controversy generates engagement. Engagement sells ads. End of.

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                And choosing selling ads vs being a decent news company and having good, balanced, reporting they nefariously choose to take profit by manufacturing controversy. They, as in the the news in general, also have a history of coming to the defense of the oil industry, and shitting on anything in competition to it, because it is a vital venue for US imperialism, or economic influence, as they might say. It has proven so intentional that they call everything they say on this subject into question. You are free to feel that these economic interests don’t play a significant factor in the broader operations of why they release the articles they do, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t that way.

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                @fine_sandy_bottom @Jiggle_Physics there is a tiny bit of truth to the above conspiracy theory. It is the forces that have fed the “e-bikes are controversial” narrative. But it doesn’t need governments involved, just corporate pressure to fight change.

                (Arguements about how integrated big companies and governments are clouds the distinction)

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        America held the printing press invention dear to the heart. It was the best way to manufacture and distribute propaganda.

        News is a profit driven industry and it’s written by the sponsors. This is as true for NYT as it is for Alex Jones. The sooner people realize this the sooner we can dig ourselves out of this whole mess.

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            Yes, this is why all news should be treated as “Trust but verify”. And if that verification consistently turns up as bunk, that’s a bad news.

            Problem is nearly everybody is bad news. It’s always either lying through omission, single-sided story telling, assumed guilt, or just straight up misinformation.

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        They really aren’t that much better for the planet compared to ICE and when compared to transit or active transport they really are the least effecient “green” option.

        Its not just about reducing carbon, we should be trying to reduce overall energy usage and focus on effecient systems.

        Everyone driving their electric SUV to park in a sea of pavement is not effecient land or energy use.

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          There are select instances where they are a greener option that transit. If you live in rural areas with really low density it is often cheaper and greener to not build mass transit systems there. But I’m really just splitting hairs here.

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            You mean using same road cars would use for buses, while optionally removing extra lanes, is less green and cheap than building and maintaining 18-lane monstrosities in the middle of nowhere?

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              18 lane monstrosities are connections between the dense cities/burbs. We’re talking two lane highways here, nobody builds an 18 lane freeway to a town with 50 people in the middle of nowhere. At best they will build a freeway THROUGH the middle of nowhere but the nowhere wasn’t the purpose of the freeway, the connection to another major city was.

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                18 lane monstrosities are connections between the dense cities/burbs.

                All those 18 lanes are built ONLY because of cars.

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                  And there are fewer cars per km in rural areas. Do you think the dirt owns cars?

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    what i’ve learned is that I’d much rather live in this echo chamber with windows to the outside than in another echo chamber

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      I don’t know what this is about, but it reminds me of the constant ev-bashing in most major newspapers over the last two decades (since the beginning). I believe it’s oil money in the press, and definitely had effect on the overall conversation, especially discouraging small evs, but not clear effect on policy. It just keeps consumers from adopting.

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        Those articles pulled a lot of weight because my province over the last few years have removed all purchase incentives for EVs. The gov used to give up to $10k CAD rebates for electric vehicles. They recently got rid of it and after the election next year, they’ll fully get rid of all remaining incentives.

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          Incentives are great for a few years but then they just become part of the price. Most provinces will eventually remove their incentives towards EV as they become mainstream or at least transition to a subset of EVs maybe leaving out those considered luxury.

          What they shouldn’t stop investing in is the infrastructure making those EVs a reliable alternative.

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            Do you see EVs being mainstream anytime soon? There are no places to charge (spare for a few big businesses in the bigger cities) and EVs are often double the price of their gas counterparts.

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              The infrastructure is growing quite fast considering how young the whole EV market is.

              As for the price that’s exactly what blanket incentives would do. Affordable EVs are hardly developed currently because people buy larger more expensive (profitable) vehicules that would normally be 10k+ over their budget and that 10k is free money in the pockets of the manufacturers. Start giving incentives only for affordable EVs and they will start appearing all over the place

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        Car manufacturers and oil producers have a vested interest in making bikes, ev bikes in particular, illegal.

        Basically the same playbook that Henry Ford used to make cities less walkable.

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    If a city cannot manage their bicycle traffic, how should we ever expect them to handle car traffic?

    Any problems with bicycles is a simple issue of infrastructure and priority.

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      As a cyclist in NYC the complaint that bikes are weaving through cars is hilarious.

      Of course they are. Cars are almost always stuck in traffic while bikes move faster.

      I can make my 12ish mile commute in 45 minutes. Until the bridge I spend every mile of that commute passing cars.

      That’s all besides the point though: there shouldn’t be personal passenger vehicles in NYC. Business vehicles sure. A few taxis are personal vehicles because of Uber - sure. But there should be 0 street parking and heavy restrictions on where drivers are allowed to go. We need to take back our streets.

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        Ahhh, I see the problem! … The car drivers feel like fools sitting around in their enormous polluting wastes of space and resources but not going anywhere! So naturally everything good must be destroyed in the name of making the wrong thing feel better.

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          Having been a motorcyclist in NYC this is true. They will try to hit you to keep you from doing something they can’t. I can’t imagine how much worse it must be for cyclists.

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            The only advantage we have is that we have an increasing number of bike lanes parallel to major thoroughfares. While there’s the prevalent issue of trucks parking in the lanes they are, for the most part, clear and in reasonable condition.

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          I’ve seen multiple instances of driving being mad that they are in traffic while bikes or buses zoom by.

          If they weren’t so infected with car brain, the easiest solution is to leverage one or both of those transportation methods that zoom by you.

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        Yes. Yes, yes, yes. As a cyclist in NYC myself, the hate that I see bicyclists get is fucking absurd.

        “That person is riding their bike in traffic! How dangerous!”

        Like, motherfuckers, you’re the ones forcing us to ride in traffic. And it wouldn’t be dangerous without the car element. The danger is in the cars. A bicycle crash can hurt and cause damage, but with a helmet? You’re mostly pretty safe from deadly accidents. THE CARS ARE THE ONES CAUSING THE DANGER. Not the cyclists.

        And then all this talk about congestion pricing being ridiculous. TAX THE FUCK out of them. Ban them. It’s a fucking addiction. And a crippling one. Why people take cars into the city is mind boggling. Like you said, it’s necessary, especially here, for there to be some traffic. Deliveries for businesses, cabs. That’s pretty much it. But, no. Every single road is full of parked cars, driving cars, double parked cars BLOCKING THE FUCKING BIKE LANES EVERY 100 GODDAMN FEET…it’s actual lunacy.

        It’s such a bikeable city. Few hills, relatively short distances. But with cars creating so much traffic, it seems far because everyone sits in a car in stop and go traffic for 45min to get from the FiDi to the park. All these wasted resources with cops directing traffic UNDERNEATH FUNCTIONING STOPLIGHTS BECAUSE EVERYONE IS SO AGGRAVATED SITTING IN TRAFFIC THAG THEYLL ALL JUST BLOCK THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE THEYVE GONE THROUGH FIVE LIGHT CYCLES, the constant construction…it’s lunacy. There’s really no other word for it.

        This is a sensitive subject for me lol clearly