We know, they’re fucking dead.
In these comments:
CEO admits to whistleblowers being disciplined at work (which everyone knew, he just is saying it)… suddenly becomes He admitted murder!
Sad. If you make up a reality because you feel that way, you are no better then they are.
Seriously? No better than the giant megacorp that caused many, many deaths, and other horrible shit they’ve caused or enabled, for thinking they might have caused another death or two in retaliation for exposing their crimes? Fuck off with that shit
He doesn’t have to admit murder but it is right in front of your face. Someone very connected to Boeing murdered them.
Another thing is the kind of person and even entity/organization it takes to discipline a whistleblower for literally looking out for the public wellbeing such in this case. It takes a sociopath with no regard for human life. If they would discipline them at work what else would they do in private?
Someone very connected to Boeing murdered them.
Yeah, that second guy, they went all biological right? I mean they gave him the flu to get him to the hospital. Once there, and in his weakened state, they sprang MRSA on him! That way, when they caused the parting shot with a stroke, no one would suspect!
Conspiracy is a lot of fun! Lets add aliens. I mean the whole reason why this is all so hush hush is the government is in a contract with the Aliens from Alpha Centauri and these people stumbled onto it. It is so obvious!
I agree with you but this is not as impossible as you want it to seem. You can give someone flu like symptoms with a live vaccine shot. MRSA is touch spread and a stroke is just a blocked blood vessel in the brain. Easily done with an injection of something in the carotid. The ridiculous part is the complexity and number of people who would need to keep a secret.
The ridiculous part is the complexity and number of people who would need to keep a secret.
That is exactly right. That is where it all falls apart.
All of those things were/are just another Tuesday class for your average KGB spook, not impossible at all. In a 100+ Billion dollar defense contractor I imagine you could find more than one person willing to shut up and take the giant bag, hell you can buy a congressman to sell out a whole community for like 10k
No that’s the problem. Once someone is in a hospital there’s a paper trail a mile long. If you wanted to assassinate someone then the hospital is the last place you would do it. You’d need to pay off a hundred people and hope none of them ever decides to talk. Or you start killing them off but then how long does it take big data FBI to connect those dots?
If guy number 2 was somehow DOA at the hospital or already infected with something irreversible then you’d have a case. But flu to hospital MRSA case to Stroke just isn’t how anyone who cared about remaining free and anonymous would kill someone.
One person. That’s all it takes.
They find the person shopping or something, routine. Spritz some flu into their face. (Well, more discretely, but yeah.)
They go to the hospital, pay the guy a visit when, spritz some MRSA on his linens or something. Plenty of opportunity. Even better, spritz it on everyone’s linens so it looks like an outbreak.
Slip in, visit the guy and inject a stroke causing drug. Maybe even something as innocuous as just injecting an air bubble into his artery.
Maybe a small support team. But really, you think Boeing doesn’t already have a hitter on the payroll?
This isn’t Hollywood. You can’t just walk into an ICU ward and inject someone.
You realize there have been multiple nurses that have killed people over periods of years, right?
It’s nowhere near as impossible as you seem to think it is.
Charles Cullen, a nurse, murdered dozens—possibly hundreds—of patients during a 16-year career spanning several New Jersey and Pennsylvania medical centers until being arrested in 2003.
William Davis, who worked at Christus Mother Frances Hospital in Tyler, Texas, fatally injected four patients with air.
Nurse Heather Pressdee pleaded guilty to three counts of first-degree murder and 19 counts of criminal attempt to commit murder.
Reta Mays, a former nursing assistant, killed seven elderly veterans with fatal injections of insulin at a West Virginia hospital.
The list sadly goes on and on and on. There’s even an entire Wikipedia article about it.
You’re blissfully very naïve about this.
I’m really not. Serial killers exist isn’t evidence it’s easy to get away with killing in a hospital. In fact the very existence of the list proves they’re getting caught.
Guy 1 who suddenly committed suicide? sure. Guy 2 would need about a hundred people to keep the secret and that’s just not happening.
Suuuuuuuure. Found the assassin! /s
You’re right, all these whistleblowers are dying completely naturally and it’s not suspicious at all.
I’d still fly in a Boeing until I hear about them start to get recalled/grounded/etc more, but you must be pretty naive if you don’t see that these deaths are suspicious and don’t think that companies in the United States of America, the land of big business, out of all countries in the world, could have legislative and other protections.
No they are not that suspicious at all. The first death served no purpose unless you really believe it was a “fuck you” death.
The second wasnt much better, but come on, they really got a hospital involved? Do you know how stupid that sounds?
I DO think CEO’s members of the board, and rich shareholders have legislative and other protections. At the very least the ability to send lawyers to court for the rest of their lives if they had to. I believe they can get away with quite a lot, and probably make money doing it even if caught. So none of that, NONE of that means resorting to murder. There just isn’t really a need to.
If this were a case of targeted blackmail, perhaps somekind of love affair gone wrong or some kind or really nasty shit, then I could see it.
You can ruin peoples lives, create shoddy products, pollute the land, boss people around, and you won’t get in any trouble if you are rich. No need to murder anyone.
Barnett was found dead to an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound after officers were sent to his hotel because he missed a deposition hearing… for a lawsuit against Boeing.
Dead, single gunshot wound, in a car. You think that’s not suspicious at all?
Third day of deposition.
After fighting Boeing since 2017. Losing the first court case by the way.
An entire movie about this came out in 2022.
It sounds like a desperate person who had enough.
Why kill him now? Wad something going to come out that already hadn’t? Or wad this person tired of fighting and feeling helpless.
You could argue that maybe Boeing killed him in the long run.
But with 50,000 people taking their lived a year in the US I tend to think a lot of people are just broken. And i can’t blame them.
Also, you are suggesting the police were in on it since they ruled out foul play too?
Although I don’t trust them either. So fair enough on that one.
Good luck. I’m with you. It’s annoying how retarded most of Lemmy has decided to be about this story based off headlines.
It sounds like a desperate person who had enough.
funny that everyone who knew him, didn’t think he was even remotely suicidal. Also as for the ‘why now’ because now it’s got publicity and traction.
As for the cops ruling out foul play… it’s pretty easy to fake a suicide by gunshot… but yes, I’d buy that the police were in on it in a heartbeat. have you met cops? there’s a strong chance the cops were the ones who took the job.
Citation needed: everyone that knew him.
From the article linked in my original comment:
But Barnett’s lawyers said in a statement following his death that his deposition was nearing an end and he appeared to be in good spirits.
“We didn’t see any indication he would take his own life. No one can believe it,” his lawyers, Robert Turkewitz and Brian Knowles, said in a statement on March 12.
No real investigation. No punishment. Same Shit Different Day.
I can’t belive I’m saying this but Josh Haley fuckin grilled the fucker
Of course they relieved themselves of the resource (human) that negatively impacted the share price.
Same way they relieve themselves of a resource (bolts) that negatively impacts the share price.
People have died due to the greed and corruption of the leadership of Boeing. The people at the top have in fact gotten huge financial rewards by taking actions that were likely to kill people. There is no mechanism in US society to hold these people accountable. Are they going to get put in prison? Nope! Are they going to be PERSONALLY fined? Nope!
I really dislike how in Chinese society people are not able to criticize the government. I hope one day, everyone everywhere will have free speech. It’s unfortunate to say this, but in China, this would be dealt with severely and and with impact. I am not saying their mechanism is right, but the US has no mechanism at all. We all know nothing will happen, especially because most of the deaths were foreigners. It’s disgusting and makes the US look bad.
This is why ancient humans invented mob justice. When the laws don’t work, order still needs to be imposed.
Exactly this. In ancient Roman times, emperor Caracalla was infamous for having many of his enemies outright killed. One of these was the brother of a soldier who was assigned to his personal guard at the Rhine border regions. When Caracalla got off his horse for a piss, he got a gladius thrusted between his ribs. For all his might and power, he very much brought that on himself.
Sometimes people like that soldier are the last line of justice in the world.
Fine the CEO, not to the company. He has to take responsibility.
When poor people put others in danger and/or exploit things for financial benefit, they go to prison.
Stop giving fines for big companies and actually start putting people in fucking prison.
Don’t be poor, problem solved!
Government can’t be too hard on Boeing, critical space and defense programs are at risk. I wish it was sarcasm.
In my opinion, the US federal government can/should be able take over Boeing temporarily in cases of felony or federal offenses perpetrated by executive personnel for the duration of the criminal investigation and trial.
Fine? Arrest and jail.
Fine the company. Take the capital (which will have to serve the community), fine and jail the executives!
Companies are as accountable as the executives.
And put him in jail
You spelled assassinate wrong, dude
You are invited to a meeting Agent X/Whistleblower Coffee chat.
Going? Yes/No/Maybe
I don’t know
Can you repeat the question?
You’re not the boss of me now!
And you’re not so big!
Location: outside 7th floor
My indecisive ass would still hit “maybe”
Could this just be an email? I’ve already got enough on my plate.
Big fucking yikes - wonder what the play is here?
Trying to get in front of the train instead of roped into it ?
Either way, more evidence of the psychopathy that is big business in the states, and a byproduct of late state capitalism
wonder what the play is here?
Sometimes even the sociopaths slip up and accidentally tell the truth.
Retaliated against is a funny way to say killed
Imagine killing a man and then saying this…
“I may have committed some light murder.”
Not a big deal, he was kinda asking for it!
Look what he’s wearing!
Points to whistle
Prolly let his other CEO hit it without any complaints!
This just shows you how much of amateur this guy. If he doesn’t know you just lie lie lie what’s he doing being a CEO?
He is not lying because his counsel advised him that trick won’t here. They are doing damage minimization.
This clown should be prosecuted for murder tho
Seriously! Maybe he’s trying to play the honesty card in hopes that people see it as being transparent and we should trust him, but this is admission of guilt and willful negligence that lead to death. The guy should be charged and locked up.
why are people in this thread acting as if he’s just admitted to ordering hits on whistleblowers
We will never know if Boeing did it… But we do know how these companies are, so I am just assuming this they did until proven otherwise.
You can always count the corpo trash to do crime… 24/7
We obviously haven’t read the article, yet feel entitled to comment on it all the same! /s bc not having read it myself, I just presume that’s the case 🤣.
More importantly, why are you surprised at that?
Social media is more about feelings than facts, especially when it comes to precision in the details - the barrier to speak is very low, on purpose, to allow us to vent our frustrations at the world being unfair and corrupt and twisted.
In this case it is fairly understandable - he is a very bad man who did very bad things. He has now admitted to a subset of the badness, and people wish that he had gone further to admit it all, so people talk as if that were the case.
Again, that’s just my guess, but we cannot control the world, only ourselves.
Might have something to do with the whistle blowers dying mysteriously
To be fair only the first was a surprise mysterious suicide.
The second was sick for years and died because of that.This is not correct, he was in normal health until after he became a whistleblower and then he got MRSA and died in 2 weeks.
That shit happens, that’s almost exactly how one of my grandparents died but minus the whistleblower part.
Yeah it’s pretty low odds though.
Even the 1st wasn’t that mysterious if you read more than headlines. John very likely did kill himself. He had already lost his civil suit against Boeing for damages. Was trying to appeal that case. It very likely wasn’t going anywhere. Because if he had a case Boeing could have quietly settled before the initial trial.
The case also had nothing to do with current Boeing practices as John retired in 2017. John was suing for defamation.
Is thia a PR release from Boeing lol
Tell me again why we need to be fair to executives that murdered 340+ people to save money on training and certifications for their new plane?
Because it’s the right thing to do.
Well if we were treating them fairly they’d be in prison.
Absolutely! And we wouldn’t have to speculate or exaggerate or misrepresent to so.
Now we’re on the same page!
1% CEO of one of the largest companies in the military industrial complex.
And yet, still CEO I see…
And apparently NOT in jail at this time
Military-industrial contracts… I doubt he will ever face consequences that he does not choose for himself. :-|
No they fired him, but he’s staying on till they find a replacement. (He did get millions of dollars to boot though)
Oh… I thought they had someone already and this was him, sorry - I edited my comment to apologize for misinformation, thanks for the update!:-)
well anyways he will probably become CEO of another company or find another way to float to the top. his greed might even be seen as a positive trait by other companies.
Boeing CEO Commits Suicide to the Back of his Head After Senate Hearing
Investigators released the fully typed, with no signature, suicide note, written on Boeing stationary:
I have decided to take my life after I lied during my Senate testimony. I felt pressured by the committee leader to say untruthful things for political gain. To the many shareholders that have helped us weather the storm over the last few months, I want to thank you and hope that, in some way, my death increases the value of your investment.
P.S. tell my wife, I don’t know, make up something touching.
Tell my wife I said hello
Jesus christ man
