generally “no.”

but if it’s someone I actually like, and want to help come to better stances, I’ll explain that it’s useless to care who the president is. The Senate and the supreme court matter more in terms of policy, and every single “left” leaning president has still been behind some vile shit.

When they were telling us to “vote blue no matter who” back in 2019, I would calmly explain that Biden’s politics aren’t far off from Republican ones, and that his career spits in the face of what his supporters think of him.

as it seems to me, the lines like “you’re just letting the conservatives win” and “if you don’t participate in the system you’re against the progress” are ultimately just things they tell themselves so they feel like they’re in some way useful. I would posit that most of them know, on some level, that voting doesn’t do anything of note. I would further posit that most of them know that they’re wasting their time caring about who the president is, but do it out of fear for the future. they lack the theory and the understanding to know that the existing system doesn’t include our voices, so like a person blinded by a dark room, they’re swinging around wildly in the hopes that they’ll hit something. A lot of them just need to be sat down and talked to in human terms, person to person. Enough of that and they’ll come around on their stances.