“…But it does not have the right to go to war against the entire Palestinian people”
You dudes really inventing new ways to make yourself look like assholes all the time.
Doesn’t matter what he says after that point, he’s already completely wrong the moment he says Israel has a right to defend itself, there is no such fucking right protecting Israel from Palestinian resistance, and that’s according to UN resolution 2625.
Shit Reactionaries Say.
I know I’ve answered most of your comments, but is this the best you can come up with? And you say we’re the dumb guys who, unlike you, aren’t enlightened with a knowledge that was bestowed upon you perhaps by god himself? At least type out a proper response instead of complaining like a kid.
You literally sit there and say even if Israel was not attacking Palestine it would not be allowed to defend itself from the few actual armed assailants targeting civilians, and you expect a retort? You don’t value human life, there is no reasoning with that.
Israel IS PREDICATED on the genocide of the Palestinian population. It’s an apartheid state. It cannot exist without doing both of these things.
Also, violence against settlers is completely justified AND the UN has stated oppressed peoples have every right to resist against occupation (what Israel is doing). To defend Israel is to engage in genocide.
You’re the one who doesn’t value human life by allowing this population of settlers to oppress MILLIONS of Palestinians.
You literally
Just advocated
For Genocide
What genocide? Try to clarify your points next time. I am advocating for the liberation of the Palestinian people, which can only be accomplished through the destruction of the state of Israel. I want a state with equal rights for both peoples. If privileged settlers don’t like this, that’s on them!
What’s your angle? You do understand we’re mocking sanders for genocide apologia, right?
My angle is ya’ll are fucking dumb and I seem pretty effective at making you notice that by simply provided the single line of context one of you painstakingly removed.
Come on, you can do better than that. Do you really think “ya’ll are fucking dumb” is a compelling argument? Did we all cower to your intellectual superiority because of some masterfully applied insult?
I asked because I can’t tell from that statement what your position actually is and I didn’t want to assume you’re just overtly pro-genocide or engaging in genocide denial (as I run into far too often).
Are you dumb? You must be dumb as fuck
Why are you trolling? This is lowlevel trolling.
Because your trash puddle keeps washing into my feed on Lemmy.today because they refuse to ban other instances for malicious actions like this.
awww did we break your liberal hive mind of racism and genocide apologia? Good. Now, you can choose between two options: be respectful and ask why do we hold these opinions or be a complete jackass (what you chose) and troll us.
Lastly, if you hate us so much, if you want nothing to do with us, block our instance; it’s that simple. For someone who pretends to be such an open-minded individual, you sure as hell aren’t one…
awww did we break your liberal hive mind of racism and genocide apologia?
The lack of self awareness in this thread is comical.
We are exposed to propaganda every day. I watch tv I get bombarded with genocide apologia. I see politicians saying migrants are bad and “taking our jobs” while it’s obviously a crisis of capitalism.
This propaganda has rendered any possible discussion and criticism about capitalism impossible. Every time a communist tries to argue in good faith in some random sub they’re immediately banned.
So, yes, you’re the one in a hive mind, not any communist. Like I said, try to come up with better answers.
This is a thought experiment, try to keep an open mind about this concept:
Some, not all, of hexbear and ML users are advocating harm to the west and/or praising dictators Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin. But all users of those instances stand in unision with those users regardless of interpersonal difference. So therefor, none of you argue in good faith. You don’t want to help people fix things. You don’t even want to accelerate towards communism. Your instances, as a whole, only function to further the goals of the greedy and corrupt few.
Alright, I am keeping an open mind.
Ignoring all the dictator bs, we “support” Putin for very different reasons we support Xi: while Xi is a dedicated socialist who has dramatically improved the living standards of Chinese people, Putin serves only to weaken Western Imperialism, which brings me to my next point.
You might come here and be confused when we preach stuff like “death to Amerikkka”. After all, how could people that want to fix this chant “death to a country”? This is a common misconception, because what we’re wishing death to are the imperialist world order that keeps the third world poor and is responsible for millions of deaths every year. We do want to liberate the entire world, but first we must destroy the Imperialist chain.
Lastly, if we only want to serve corrupt few, as Parenti would say, why do we always side with the powerless? Why do we always stand with the oppressed over 1000km away from us if all we want is power? Wouldn’t the logical step be to stand with the rich capitalists that control everything?
You can block instances for your own account if you want.
But we don’t mind. You can stick around and engage us in honest conversation next time.
“The Nazis, of course, have a right to defend themselves against the Warsaw Uprising, but they have no right to go to war against the entire population of Warsaw.”
I’m guessing you agree with this statement?
We communists are the ultimate assholes. Goes all the way back to a certain Georgian dude who ended up being a total asshole to Hitler (and is exemplified to day by a certain Chinese dude who’s an asshole to billionaires in his country).
LMAO
You’re not even communists, you’re just authoritarians just like Dictator Xi and the party of Hitler.
Then what is a communist, smartass?
Publicly owned means of production, meaning the planning, creation, and distribution of goods as being completely controlled by the entire population. So, by definition, dictatorship China, NK, or Russia (both current and USSR) do not qualify.
Alright, you finally got something correctly (the definition of communism), I’ll give you that.
What your ignoring is: capitalist sabotage and that we don’t live in a perfect world. Ask yourself where China and the DPRK were before Socialism and what they managed to accomplish. My point is, contradictions are inherent in every single system and you cannot have communism overnight.
They’re socialist in the sense that they’re striving towards socialism… what do you think that happens when you have to deal with an overwhelmingly capitalist (and hostile) world? You have to give some concessions.
Extremely incomplete answer, but maybe read “dialectical and historical mateiralism” some day.
Edit: forgot to clarify, modern Russia is IN NO WAY socialist. It’s a reactionary shithole and our support for it is only insofar as they oppose Western Imperialism.
Funny how being opposed to genocide all the time, and not just when it is politically convenient, makes us the assholes.
Half the people who have responded to me sing the praises of Xi Jinping, yall are pro-genocide only when it’s your side while people like me and Bernie are actually opposed unconditionally.
Check out the “I’m totally not mad, you guys are the ones coping and seething, not me!” going on over here.
Oh, maybe I missed that. Is bernie actually calling this a genocide now?
If his added context doesn’t matter, why remove it?
I’m not OP, I didn’t remove anything.
That doesn’t really answer my question, though. I don’t keep track of everything going on in internal US politics, so I’m curious if sanders has unambiguously acknowledged this is a genocide.
Oh yeah, so anti-genocide that you claim a genocidal thoughtless murder machine has the right to exist.
But you know, we do not condemn the most recent genocide the west invented, so we are evil!111
Who let the krackers in ???
This guy pops in periodically to embarrass themselves with a drive by comment. They’ve only ever proven their own smug ignorance so far, but hey, at some point they might proves us evil tankies wrong!
Maybe one day they’ll be able to string together a coherent thought! Let them keep trying!
Nah, Israel just doesn’t have the right to defend itself because it doesn’t even have the right to exist. It’s a settler colonial regime predicated on the genocide of the Palestinian people.
Bad-faither…
The line “Israel has a right to defend itself”, in this context, is more or less a thought-terminating cliche used to justify its long and now current crackdown on Palestinian people, due to their existence being considered as an “aggressor” against the continuation of settler-colonialism and U.S-backed hegemony in the Middle East, for more than 70 years…
And regardless of how you may say things like “I condemn Hamas, but Israel moreso”, you already fall for the enemy’s framing of the argument…
Of course, I think you know better than to think history started at Oct. 7… but anyways, step on my **** and call us tankie wankie or some shit… very entertaining stufff
Lol thats why you feel the need to remove context and control which information is spread, huh?
You think I’m a mod… huh, nice…
I think you’re a voice in a crowd that intentionally censors content to stoke flames.
this disgraceful coward still won’t call it a genocide
there’s less left of his positive legacy than there is of the buildings in Gaza
its funny how his handlers immediately told him to make that statement
