Unpopular opinion: The really bad ones, not talking about orange juice here, should be treated similarly to energy drinks. Banned for under 16 and taxed high.
I have this argument with my wife a lot. She says that because the OJ is natural sugar it’s okay.
But the high-fructose corn syrup used in a cola is also natural sugar in the sense that it was grown on a farm. There even happens to be less of it in your average soda than in juice.
And I’m not really saying that you should drink soda instead of juice because it’s healthier, but somehow fruit juice is one of those things people think is good for them.
Something I like in some of Europe is that food just has a rating on it. Not only are they stricter about food pretending to sound healthy it will just straight say this juice is a D.
In the US every company spends millions to make their sugar appear more healthy and it works.
I’d argue that natural non filtered orange juice is healthier because you drink it with all the fiber from the fruit, making the sugar absorption slower. A non filtered OJ is closer to eating a fruit than those industrial ones that finely filter everything to be just a colored sugary water.
I mean, you just need to make an OJ and drink it and then have an industrial one. The difference, even without the knowledge, is noticeable.
Funny thing is, at least where I live, making an OJ at home is cheaper than buying the industrial one
just to remind you, while your anecdote was obviously about you in the USA, this story is about the UK.
The UK, like the rest of the planet, doesn’t use HFCS in anything. At all. It basically only exists in the USA because the government pays farmers to grow corn.
Only in the US do they label sugar based soft drinks as something special and “healthy”. It’s an amazing country.
as for juice: a) different sugars are broken down in different ways. fructose isn’t quite as bad (not saying it’s GOOD). b) juice has a bunch of other things which are good in it, like fibre and vitamin C and such.
Yes, fruit is better for you than fruit juice, and you’re right that juice should still be a treat, but in small doses it actually IS good for you. (unlikely soda, where in small doses it just isn’t bad for you)
They do have their place- just that place isn’t “something you can just drink every day without thinking about”
Unpopular opinion: The really bad ones, not talking about orange juice here, should be treated similarly to energy drinks. Banned for under 16 and taxed high.
Orange Juice is not meaningfully better than most sugar heavy drinks.
I have this argument with my wife a lot. She says that because the OJ is natural sugar it’s okay.
But the high-fructose corn syrup used in a cola is also natural sugar in the sense that it was grown on a farm. There even happens to be less of it in your average soda than in juice.
And I’m not really saying that you should drink soda instead of juice because it’s healthier, but somehow fruit juice is one of those things people think is good for them.
Something I like in some of Europe is that food just has a rating on it. Not only are they stricter about food pretending to sound healthy it will just straight say this juice is a D.
In the US every company spends millions to make their sugar appear more healthy and it works.
I’d argue that natural non filtered orange juice is healthier because you drink it with all the fiber from the fruit, making the sugar absorption slower. A non filtered OJ is closer to eating a fruit than those industrial ones that finely filter everything to be just a colored sugary water.
Sure, but how many people actually know how commercial orange juice is produced and bother seeking out the real stuff?
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300164558/squeezed/
I mean, you just need to make an OJ and drink it and then have an industrial one. The difference, even without the knowledge, is noticeable. Funny thing is, at least where I live, making an OJ at home is cheaper than buying the industrial one
just to remind you, while your anecdote was obviously about you in the USA, this story is about the UK.
The UK, like the rest of the planet, doesn’t use HFCS in anything. At all. It basically only exists in the USA because the government pays farmers to grow corn.
Only in the US do they label sugar based soft drinks as something special and “healthy”. It’s an amazing country.
as for juice: a) different sugars are broken down in different ways. fructose isn’t quite as bad (not saying it’s GOOD). b) juice has a bunch of other things which are good in it, like fibre and vitamin C and such.
Yes, fruit is better for you than fruit juice, and you’re right that juice should still be a treat, but in small doses it actually IS good for you. (unlikely soda, where in small doses it just isn’t bad for you)
I tried for a while to think of their place but there’s nothing I would say is absolutely necessary. What is their place?
They’re a dessert, treat them like you would ice cream or a chocolate bar instead of treating them like water