Jack Black announced on Instagram that he’s cancelled the rest of the Tenacious D world tour and placed future projects on hiatus.

This happened after his bandmate Kyle Gass sparked controversy by commenting on the recent Donald Trump assassination attempt.

At their recent Sydney show, Kyle Gass was given a birthday cake and asked to make a wish for his 64th birthday, to which he said “Don’t miss Trump next time.”

In his later statement, Black said he was “blindsided” by his bandmate’s comment and condemned any calls for political violence.

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      Honestly this just makes me sad.

      I thought better of JB. This is a far cry from a call for political violence.

      This is like saying “come on, guys, Hitler is a person too and we shouldn’t be wishing bad things on them” in the 1930s.

      I can’t imagine being so spineless I’d throw my friend under the bus over a comment that, honestly as far as I’m concerned doesn’t go far enough.

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      The last thing we need is this piece of shit to become a martyr. Let him go down beaten by a black woman at the polls, like the loser he is.

      At this point Trump being shot is the best thing that could happen to the Republican party. And I wish them only the worst.

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      I assume Jack and his team probably started recieving threats from the crowd that shot at Trump (republicans).

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        I guess attempting to kill and joking about killing Trump is a privilege that only republicans enjoy

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          TBH I don’t give a single solitary fuck who Republicans think or don’t think is allowed to do anything. That doesn’t mean Jack Black has to risk his life over some ha has.

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            This barely would be known if it wasn’t for them splitting up over about it though. They said it to an Australian crowd. They ain’t doing anything about it.

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              There have been no statements about the band ending, but they have almost certainly ended the Australian Tour, sadly. Gass has also been dropped by Greene Talent agency, so he might have to work to regain trust from the business suits if they want to do big events again. Both Gass and Black have both been apologetic and on the same page with their public statements.

              They once wrote and performed a song about killing politicians and ruling as idiot kings, they’ll be fine.

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                Ahh, think I misinterpreted Black’s “all future creative plans are on hold” statement. Forgetting the “on hold” part.

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    No matter our politics, hopefully we can all agree with JB about not wanting to get shot by reactionary Christofascist radicals. I assume Black and Gass’s politics are pretty well aligned with each other, and Gass didn’t say anything a lot of people aren’t also feeling. But you can’t say that shit on stage in front of thousands of amped up fans. --not because it’s wrong to say or because it’s not politically correct or even because it’s controversial. You can’t say that shit because some of the people in the audience are unhinged and have already been radicalized by the Right.

    Take a stand for the First Amendment, and take a stand against censorship, sure–but while you’re standing, be prepared to duck.

    I don’t blame any public figure for not wanting to expose themselves to an outsized risk of violence. That risk is largely Trump’s fault, but notice how I’m blaming him from somewhere other than an elevated, well lit platform in front of a room full of strangers on drugs.

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      “don’t stand up for your rights, it might get you hurt” is a very weird take tbh

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        “don’t invoke violence in an emotionally charged environment with thousands of people, especially when it puts your friends and coworkers in the crossfire.”

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      “Don’t take a stand against fascism, because a fascist might get angry” 🙄

      And I guess if you’re part of a group already being targeted by angry fascists, it’d be something like “why didn’t you warn us about fascism sooner?”…

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        I think standing up to fascism is different from putting yourself on a stage in front of potential cult members looking for retaliation. The guy is a comedian/actor/musician, he’s not looking to take a bullet from some unhinged wacko to somehow prove … fascism bad?

        How many here talking shit are planning to do a soapbox tour of the US calling for Trump’s death? Just putting yourself out in front of a crowd of potentially unhinged folks, unarmed, to try and prove some kind of point.

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          I chose to believe he is being honest about why he cancelled the tour, and it wasn’t because “I agree with my buddy, and we’re going to stay out of the limelight for a short minute to stay safe”, but because “my buddy wants a fascist dead, and I can’t be seen to agree”.

          I also find it fucking hilarious that people seriously think anyone is going to target this guy (or that he doesn’t already have/ can’t afford security), when there are significantly bigger targets out ther.

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            Nutjobs have shot of grocery stores and movie theaters that had no real “targets” other than people to shoot. Now mark yourself as “the enemy” of a cult by just using your first amendment right, and one could follow to a logical conclusion that maybe you would be putting your putting yourself and your whole road crew at risk.

            You also have to stop thinking about these people as logical. Nothing they do has logic involved. They are members of a cult, logic was checked at the door long ago. As for being a target, these guys are famous, and people talk shit and threaten stars for far less then wishing death upon the cult leader.

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        I think it’s more like “don’t publicly stand for political violence towards fascists because their base is unhinged and you bring the violence on yourself”. Also, the violence has given the fascists power. Right now, the dems defense has to be damage control. I know many people wish Trump had been taken out (especially by another republican) but it didn’t happen, most likely won’t now, and dems need to put on a “we don’t condone violence” face so they can maybe try to win.

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          I think it’s more like “don’t publicly stand for political violence towards fascists because their base is unhinged and you bring the violence on yourself”.

          So as long as they’re bringing violence to everyone but you, it’s all good then… 🙄

          Also, the violence has given the fascists power.

          News flash - they had it long before this joke happened

          Right now, the dems defense has to be damage control. I know many people wish Trump had been taken out (especially by another republican) but it didn’t happen, most likely won’t now, and dems need to put on a “we don’t condone violence” face so they can maybe try to win.

          Laugh my mother fucking ass off.

          The fact that you, anyone, still put faith in the democrats to stand up, never mind defeat, fascism, especially after the pathetic display of the last few days where they’ve all literally grovelled to the fascist in chief, is as depressing as it is astounding. And it doesn’t end well.

          https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/romeo-kokriatski-respectability-politics-or-you-gotta-be-nice-to-monsters

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            Okay, then what’s the answer? Because I’m afraid, unless we get some nation-wide support, no one is going to vote 3rd party (and there are no truly leftist candidates anyway). Even if we were to get the support, there’s no guarantee that we have enough or that those who said they would vote 3rd party really will. And even then, we won’t get all the dems on board anyway, which will split the vote. You’re against fascism, but the unfortunate thing is that the dems are the only shot unless you’ve got a revolution or a really game-changing candidate up your sleeve. The problem is, it’s crunch time and we have few options. I’m mad about it too and I agree with you on most points, but what else can we really do?

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        its one thing to willingly make yourself a target, but another to put your friends in the crossfire without their consent. Not just Jack but their crew, fans, venue staff, etc

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          I chose to believe he is being honest about why he cancelled the tour, and it wasn’t because “I agree with my buddy, and we’re going to stay out of the limelight for a short minute to stay safe”, but because “my buddy wants a fascist dead, and I can’t be seen to agree”.

          I also find it fucking hilarious that people seriously think anyone is going to target this guy (or that he doesn’t already have/ can’t afford security), when there are significantly bigger targets out ther.

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            well firstly, you are the one who just said:

            “Don’t take a stand against fascism, because a fascist might get angry” 🙄

            that is what I was responding to.

            but whatever, if I respond to your most recent comment you are copying and pasting everywhere, you’re being a bit naive if you think safety didn’t factor into the decision at all, or that any of these people couldn’t be targeted. There are whackos out there who could be targeting anyone for any reason and being on stage is a vulnerable place to be (see dimebag darrel, for example). And if something like that happens, it’s not just the target in danger, but everyone in the vicinity including the entire venue. People are likely to get trampled while fleeing, see just about any active shooter situation with hundreds or thousands of people crammed together.

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        Nah, Xhieron has a point. You don’t want to piss off a radicalized group of gun-toting rednecks. All it takes is one extremist right-wing nutjob and a loaded firearm to end your life.

        I mean a 20 year old incel came within inches of killing Trump at a rally, and unlike Donald, Tenacious D and their crew do not have the luxury of secret service protection.

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          I chose to believe he is being honest about why he cancelled the tour, and it wasn’t because “I agree with my buddy, and we’re going to stay out of the limelight for a short minute to stay safe”, but because “my buddy wants a fascist dead, and I can’t be seen to agree”.

          I also find it fucking hilarious that people seriously think anyone is going to target this guy (or that he doesn’t already have/ can’t afford security), when there are significantly bigger targets out ther.

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      When your masters use violence to oppress you, the only justified action is violence against them in a pursuit of freedom.

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    Jack is a Coward. I stand with Kyle. Remember, whenever someone calls for violence, that the head of project 25 said "We are in the midst of a second American revolution., which will remain bloodless, should the left choose it to be."

    Don’t think for a second Trump is against it.

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    Most of the western world fought back against the Nazis in WWII for the very reason that fascism is deeply hostile to a healthy democracy and a free society.

    Kyle was right: we didn’t teach our soldiers to miss back then, so there is no excuse to miss now.

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      Was a right wing idiot, listening to right wing hate and violence, who took a shot at a right wing idol.

      Theres nothing “ours” or “soldier” about it.

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    Y’all burying the lead here: Kyle blew on a birthday cake and made a wish but he spoke it out loud! Now it’ll never come true. :(

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        TIL, huh.

        Lede feels like it only exists for that expression, unless you’re in journalism. The biggest irony is it’s actually a 1950s alteration of lead, but the expression came out of journalism so here we are.

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    I really hope this is just PR shit and Jack Black isnt ending a friendship with a longterm friend over an edgy joke, cause like man, I know he’s a celebrity, but I had a lot of respect for him up until this point

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      If I was about to go on tour with my best friend and he said something stupid that put us in danger from real life lunatics with guns, I’d fucking cancel the tour too because I cared about us both and our relationship. Besides, if you can’t tell your friends they’re wrong when they’re wrong, they’re not really your friend. This isn’t necessarily the act of betrayal you’re making it out to be.

      I’m betting that making this statement publicly makes it easier to break the tour contracts, rather than backing out of the tour without saying why.

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        That part I understand, its the “put future projects on haitus” I’m commenting about. Although I guess I gave more detail in my other comment than I did this one so fair play

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        And doesn’t this go both ways? One of my favorite sayings is: a friend is someone who when you’ve made a fool of yourself, doesn’t think you’ve done a permanent job of it. Perhaps Jack Black could forgive his best friend and move along. Perhaps make a joint statement at the next event.

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          Absolutely but a friend is also the person who pulls you aside and doesn’t let you go on stage before the heat dies down.

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      Just the other day, I looked at him with his shaggy ass beard, half done up bright shirt and too large shorts singing whatever the fuck and thought to myself:

      “I have mad respect for jack black, That is a man that truly does not give a fuck. I should try and be more like him”

      And then this reaction comes out and all that is gone and I’m reminded that I’m a terrible judge of character.

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        The trick is to choose what to not give a fuck about.

        Jack black doesn’t give a fuck about others opinions of his appearance.

        He does give a fuck about death threats.

        Seems pretty sensible and reasonable to me.

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        Why? Because he’s not ok with his band mate saying on stage someone should be murdered?

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          I think its more because instead of just saying “hey that’s not cool” he publicly shat on his friend and threw him under the bus, disbanded the band, cancelled the concert.

          He obviously knows Kyle pretty well, so this sentiment can’t be a surprise to him. So therefore he has no integrity by supporting his friend behind closed doors and being two faced when his sentiments are aired in public.

          Part of not giving a fuck is having the integrity to be who you truly are, and from his reaction I can see is just an act.

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            It goes both ways though. Kyle should also know his friend wouldn’t be happy about potentially losing his career over calls to murder a person for political reasons.

            Disclaimer: I fucking hate Trump and wish he was killed years ago so I’m not saying I disagree with what Kyle said, I’m just disagreeing with when he chose to express it because he was there representing tenacious D which extends to jack as well. I’ll also add that at this point I worry that killing Trump now would only replace him with someone actually competent to drive the fascism train over the tracks that are already firmly in place, but that’s a different discussion.

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        Looks like Kyle doesn’t give a fuck more.

        Jack did a fundraiser for Biden. I suspect he’s just toeing the Dem line on this one. Doesn’t really want to see “Democrat fundraiser calls for death of Trump” splashed across the news.

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          I’m more going to chalk it up to not wanting to stand on a stage within rifle range when maga lunatics are on the prowl.

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      From a purely practical perspective, it immediately balloons the security costs of the tour through the end of the year. Black was smart to cancel the tour and probably saved a few dozen lives in the process, giving how trigger happy Trump’s base has proven itself to be.

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        Food for thought, this is what a win for terrorists looks like. When you can’t make a joke for fear of violence, that’s the goal of the violence.

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        Maybe. It seems like a bit of an overreaction to me, and I really don’t like the idea that we can’t say mean things about their god emperor because they’ll get mad and be violent. Has Muslim and Mohammed vibes.

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          Advocating shooting someone is just “mean things” now?

          I understand the sentiment, but it doesn’t all fall under the same umbrella. Saying he has small hands and advocating that someone shoot him dead are not the same thing.

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            I get that its a heavily inappropriate thing to say right now, but at the end of the day it’s an edgy joke, and while ending the tour because of security concerns (and pr concerns) makes sense, cutting all professional ties with the guy seems a bit extreme, especially since he’s already apologized

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              Having an effigy of a beheaded Trump is more of an edgy joke (Kathy Griffin in 2017). Wishing an assignation attempt that actually occurred to have been successful is a little different.

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                I’m talking about Kyle Gass here, was it him or Kathy Griffin that did the effigy? That’s a lot more than making a joke about a possible president thats more than likely going to fuck up the entire world hadnt dodged a bullet, but again, if it wasnt, and were just talking about a joke, Once again its not inappropriate enough to end an entire lifetime relationship over, especially after he apologized and owned up to it being inappropriate

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                  Did he actually end a relationship? Or just cancel the tour? I would argue that if he would have died and actually become a martyr it would be much worse. I also don’t think of he does actually win the whole world is going to be f’d up. Thats mostly just rhetoric. Will he suck? Yup. Will he be there next putin that has unlimited terms? No chance.

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            I understand your sentiment as well, but it gets old seeing so much hand-wringing about advocating violence against a fascist who advocates violence while giving his violent followers a pass. “Oh, that’s just how they are! We have to coddle them or they’ll kill people! But you’re terrible!”

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              Yeah, Trump was mid-speech “here’s how we’re going to deport every single just-minding-their-own-business brown family from our country” when he got shot, too.

              Not that that was why he got shot, but it does make all the handwringing funnier.

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                Apparently turning his head to check his immigration notes saved his life. This is how we know there is no god.

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          I really don’t like the idea that we can’t say mean things about their god emperor because they’ll get mad and be violent

          I don’t like it either. But that’s stocastic terrorism for you. It’s anti-populist and anti-liberty by design.

          Only solution is to police the fascists until they’re more scared of you than you are of them. And that doesn’t work if the cops are on the fascists’ side.

          Has Muslim and Mohammed vibes.

          No shortage of Christian terrorism. Just ask any abortion clinic nurse.

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            No shortage of Christian terrorism. Just ask any abortion clinic nurse.

            The clinic that did the selective termination that saved my twins’ lives had to be so cloak and dagger about their stuff that we literally had no idea we were showing up to the termination until they’re wheeling my wife back to surgery. It’s one of the only clinics in the state that even does the procedure we needed to my knowledge. That’s how many bomb threats, arson and assassination attempts they deal with.

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              Serious question, if you don’t mind. How did a selective termination save twins’ lives? Was your wife originally carrying triplets or quadruplets in a high-risk pregnancy? I’m entirely pro-choice, the wording is just a little odd and I’m having a hard time parsing the meaning.