This explains the debate, it was COVID! That’s why his voice was strange, people were saying he seemed like he was sick.
So the 81 year old president has been lying about COVID since the debate?
Or are you saying the presidential doctor Biden picked is this incompetent they just ran a COVID test?
I mean. He did an interview right after the debate, he talked about an illness but gave like three conflicting answers, and none of them mentioned COVID.
I’m saying it is more likely they knew he had COVID but thought cancelling / delaying would be a bad political move, and now are announcing it because it might achieve the opposite, concern and understanding.
This also might be a prelude to him stepping down in favor of another candidate or Harris.
So I think it’s more likely it was known, and this is a calculated release of information.
I’m saying it is more likely they knew he had COVID but thought cancelling / delaying would be a bad political move
You remember four years ago when that’s what trump did at a debate and we all agreed it was a shitty thing only an asshole would do…
And now you’re acting like Biden doing the same makes him “smart”?
They’re not mutually exclusive.
This HAS to be a troll
He shouldn’t test positive by now. Unless he was taking paxlovid and this is the typical rebound. O don’t know.
(chanting) Step down! Step down!
Thanks for your contribution, Donald
Get a clue
Sorry for the Apple News link
Nancy pelosi has been making bad decisions for the past pretty-much-her-whole-career, it’s crazy that people keep pointing to her as some source of legitimate news.
It’s because you know her name and she’s semi-famous, there’s no other reason for you to name her as a source of credibility or judgment.
She’s a selfish politician that makes terrible policy choices.
She’s making a terrible choice now as well, and if she believes polls marking biden a couple percent below Trump, she’s as deluded as everybody else who believes them; Biden was trailing in polls when he beat Trump 4 years ago.
It’s so obvious the conservatives are spreading misinformation like they always do and you and pelosi are believing them, again.
We’ve all seen the debate. Biden was already losing in the polls before October 7th. Then the whole rift over Palestime happened, the disastrous debate, Trump getting shot at. It’s a train wreck and Democrats are in denial about their own chances. I want Trump to lose which means I want the Democrats to put up their best candidates and not some frail old guy. That debate should have them panicking. He shouldn’t have run at all. He should have made more work of setting up his successor in the first place.
Many people have watched the two five second clips and are ignoring his performance over the first term.
You listed the debate twice, I assume one’s for each clip since all of arguments are irrelevant.
Biden has been an active and progressive president and despite funny five-second clips, tgere’s every reason to reelect for Biden.
Debates shouldn’t have anyone panicking, debates are clown shows for the masses that have nothing to do with the administration of the presidency.
And it’s insane that you’re talking about polls after the last 8 years.
Biden should be re-elected because of his solid policies on student debt, civil rights, sustainable technology and critical infrastructure
I’m a politics junkie, don’t throw me in with the general public. I watched the entire thing. I’ll watch commentary and listen to podcasts about politics at least two hours a day, every day.
But what he’s done is not the point. I’m talking about his chances in November and they are not hopeful.
The debate was a disaster not because he fumbled his words a bit. It is because for years Trump has been calling Biden this weak old senile man, Sleepy Joe, etcetera, and everyone on the Democratic side was able to pass it off as Trump exaggeration and trolling.
But in the debate, suddenly there was no denying it. Biden is losing it. Now those Trump jabs actually hurt because we know there’s a truth to it. The whole world watched as Biden was asked a question on abortion (which should be central in his campaign, a sure winner after Roe v Wade was killed) and shot himself in the foot turning it into a story about illegal immigrants coming in and raping young women.
How do you fuck up like that. And how do you recover. I don’t want Biden to give it his best shot, I want him to halt this slide into fascism and he’s failing at it
“what he’s done is not the point”
Yes, it is the point. The very fact you don’t understand that is the problem
Biden is an old man and fumbled his words, it has no bearing on the legislation he’s produced during his first term at a rapid pace for progressive policies.
His consistently progressive presidential policies and tangible results are what matters
If he loses November he can’t deliver any of those tangible results. Of course policy matters, but getting elected is important too.
Elections are won on getting people to turn up and vote for you, simple as. If independents stay home because they can’t bring themselves to vote for an 81 year old showing signs of dementia, he’s gonna lose.
Independents are independents because they care about the issues, I don’t think they’re going to be as confused as many are discerning YouTube clips vs. active achieved Biden legislation
Biden has consistently proved himself on achieving legislation Americans care about.
What you’re talking about are party voters who watch 5 second clips on YouTube and conglomerate groupthink news.
By and large, they are going to vote for the party they’ve adhered to.
See the talk he gave to the press after the shooting. It’s like 3 minutes long. It’s undeniable that his cognitive capabilities are on a sharp decline. He’s equally unfit for the presidency as Trump is.
I’m fine with an old person sounding like an old person as long as the work they do is solid.
Biden is equally mentally old as Trump, which is immaterial to biden being fit for office in this election and obvious from his first term.
Biden has been a great president who enacted consistent progressive policies, while Trump consistently hurt hundreds of millions of people and damaged the US.
Biden is certainly fit to be president again, and Harris can take over during the second term if anything happens.
Most Democrats aren’t in denial, 2/3rds want him to step down, including congressional leadership. It’s just the Blue MAGA and people whose roles are based on loyalty to Biden specifically that don’t. Unfortunately he’s the one who gets to make the decision.
And just earlier he said he could drop out if a medical issue came up. Maybe this is it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/17/us/politics/biden-health-election-drop-out.html
Here’s a tweet from after the notorious debate where he messed up, and claimed afterwards that he had a cold:
https://x.com/pot8um/status/1806520057003999491
I mostly don’t want him to drop out, but after that debate performance, covid was the first thing I thought of.
I’ve been posting for weeks that he’s gonna back out because of a medical issue, which they will not disclose fully.
Historians will find years later that he had a contagious case of notgonnawinatall, compounded by inflammation of the opeds.
You’re being downvoted, but “muh odds”: https://electionbettingodds.com/President2024.html
What a reliable source you have there
He is gonna get the same or better treatment as Trump when he got it. You know, the stuff that wasn’t available for us regular people.
Like the vampire blood of children of Transylvania?
Transylvania? Goodness no. They make it in a factory in New Jersey now.
It’s not vampire blood unless it’s from Transylvania. Otherwise it’s just sparkling biter juice.
You may be sad to learn that Vampires are from Bulgaria, so the Romanian red stuff is also just fizzy biter juice. :(
You mean Paxlovid? That’s widely available, although it may not have been when Trump got it.
That stuff is wonderful. Everything tastes like metal for a while, but it made me not die or suffer long term effects (that I know of).
You mean Paxlovid? That’s widely available
Cries in Canadian
It was approved here. IDK why Dr would be reticent to prescribe
Really? That sucks. I’m sorry, fellow human.
Exit strategy?
I really hope if for no other reason that I spent a fair bit of time in 2020 telling my friends that Biden wouldn’t make it all the way to the end of his term. I wish the guy well but I love being right.
You might need to see a therapist.
dies
God Almighty has decided.
Do Donald first please
Unfortunately God is pro authoritarian
the Tour will never recover from this
As an anti-theist:
Praise god
You know you’ve watched Dune too many times when you start to see parallels between the way prepared by Jessica and Stilgar, and the current jockeying by Pelosi and Schumer. Are we chanting Lisan al-Gaib at the postponed DNC? Schiff of Tabr? To November! The choice was the Dem nominee or the end of democracy, so you’ll forgive me if I’m not flattered.
The building of the best narrative, the gathering of a large tent, the necessity of correct timing. Then the almighty talk. If not Dune then Kingdom of Heaven or Royal Gemstones. God wills it, Jesse! Things gotta look right for the people.
You’ve gotta stop taking edibles this early in the day.
It was spice
[T]he President will be self-isolating in accordance with CDC guidance for symptomatic individuals
Is that still the guideline? I know several people who have gotten COVID recently and just went about like normal, like people used to do when they were sick pre-pandemic. I told one of them they were morons, but they claimed you don’t have to isolate any more since the CDC changed their guidelines.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2024/p0301-respiratory-virus.html
When people get sick with a respiratory virus, the updated guidance recommends that they stay home and away from others. For people with COVID-19 and influenza, treatment is available and can lessen symptoms and lower the risk of severe illness. The recommendations suggest returning to normal activities when, for at least 24 hours, symptoms are improving overall, and if a fever was present, it has been gone without use of a fever-reducing medication.
So yes, the guidance is that you isolate until you are fever free and other symptoms are at least improving. The major change is that they don’t recommend a fixed length of isolation anymore.
Supposed to mask and increase hygiene steps for 5 days after ending isolation as well.
Girlfriend had it couple weeks ago. She stayed at home. Missed some important events too. But she rather do that than risk spreading it even more or infecting someone at risk.
Please tell your girlfriend thank you for being considerate of others.
Who do you think is better briefed on cdc guidelines?
Probably not the person I called a moron.
His job is to meet many important people throughout the day - day after day. It’s probably applicable here.
All of those people are lying (or just stupid) assholes, and are spreading disease throughout our society.
You’re supposed to isolate until you don’t have symptoms,however long that takes.
It’s actually worse than that. You’re supposed to isolate until you’re not feverish and your symptoms are improving. Which is not really at all related to when you can spread it.
My understanding was that the instructions from the CDC were changed based on when you are likely to be contagious. The research indicated that following the updated guidance is sufficient to prevent/reduce the spread. At least, that’s the explanation I read when they changed the recommendation. Can’t find it now.
Realistically, it’s not the people who are following the CDC guidance who are spreading COVID.
Nope! Most people are most contagious through day 5, and contagiousness often persists through day 10.
From https://sesamecare.com/blog/how-long-are-you-contagious-with-covid-19 :
How long are you contagious after you test positive for COVID-19?
After testing positive for COVID-19, the duration of contagiousness can vary. However, individuals are typically contagious for about 10 days after the onset of symptoms.
For those with mild to moderate symptoms, this period can be shorter, often around 5-7 days. For people with severe symptoms or those with a weakened immune system, contagiousness can last up to 20 days.
They also dropped from 10 days to 5 originally because businesses were worried about not having enough employees over the holidays. The CDC is a political organization, not a medical one.
From https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/when-covid-isolation-come-out-best-time-experts-rcna88174 :
“It was not a reflection of evidence-based” science, he said. “It was there to stop everything from falling apart.”
At that time, a large chunk of the population was testing positive all at once because of the highly contagious variant. Recommending that everyone stay home — and out of work — for 10 days would have brought the country to a halt once again, so the five-day plan was put in place.
Realistically, it’s not the people who are following the CDC guidance who are spreading COVID.
Not when the CDC recommendations are basically nonexistent. And importantly the CDC recommendations define what businesses support. If the CDC says you don’t have to isolate for 5 days, your boss doesn’t have to give you 5 days of COVID leave.
This spring, i had once a bit fewer, nauseous, a little collapse too. After a day it was over, then a rebellious belly for a week. I was often sooner tired, less energy for a while after that. My sis, living with her husband, had the same. That was the new covid, right?
I think so. Myself, wife and kids all had the same thing, and tested positive for covid
now he is going to hide inside and not do any campaigns or tough interviews until the DNC nomination.
I don’t know whats more entertaining, The Boys finale or the actual election.
It would be pretty funny if Trump survived a bullet, but Biden dies from turbo flu.
We live in the Shit Timeline™
Biden will die, but only after the DNC shoves him in via the remote vote they’re pushing, then we’re stuck with Kamala instead of having the chance for someone like Warren to step up…
I wish we weren’t so misogynistic and obsessed with name recognition… I think she would have been great if the old folks didn’t just vote the name they know who’s been around forever in the primaries in 16…
Yes because picking Anyone over the current VP as the candidate signals you’re doing so well.
Who honestly thinks they’d pick Anyone but Harris? Again, it’s all fan fic that Anyone but those two will be the nominee.
it would be insane for it to be anyone but harris.
Funny isn’t the word I would choose.
Hilarious?
What’s comedy without a bit of tragedy?
Depends on the timing tbh… If it was maybe 2-4 weeks out from the election, it could potentially galvanize Democratic voters and more people could end up voting for Harris because of it.
I’m just gonna see how real y’all are: I hope he drops out because of it
Downvoted but not taking part in your silly poll
I’m just gonna see how real y’all are
What does this mean? Can someone explain?
I’m downvoting because of the whiny prefix. Not because I don’t hope it kicks his ass
I heard he fucked a pangolin with Mickey mouse in the back of a limo
🫡
Didn’t the VP’s husband have COVID?
Most people have probably had COVID by now.
Here’s the “health issue” next comes the ending of the re-election. I really thought the cycle would have been a little slower.
The DNC is planning of formally nominating the democratic ticket on August 5, which does not leave much time to pick a replacement (even if the replacement is vice president Harris).
The August 5 date was picked back when everyone thought the nomination was a mere formality, in order to comply with an August 7 deadline from Ohio. Ohio, for its part, has pushed the deadline back to September, but I don’t think the DNC wants to risk a ballot challenge making it’s way to the Supreme Court.
even if the replacement is vice president Harri
I know that’s who it would be, but I’d still be majorly disappointed.
Fuck at least she doesn’t have dimensia and can go head to head with Vance in a debate…now who the potential VP is could sink her majorly.
can’t they just slap a big mustache on obama and make him run again
Whoa, this Arock Bonana fella came out of nowhere, and he seems pretty cool. Have you heard him speak in coherent sentences? I think his brain might be undamaged!
I want to hear what this Mr Snrub has to say!
I think we should invest more into the nuclear power plant.
They have to speed the fuck up. Compared to most other countries, US election campaigns take forever
