I just tried to look up a specific video of a Nick Swardson stand up bit. All I searched was “Nick Swardson loitering”. There were 5 fucking ads before an actual user posted video, then one real human posted video that barely had anything to do with Nick, then 5 more fucking ads.
I knew they were forcing ads into videos but clogging the entire search feed with ads is unfuckingbelievable.
Is this really what it’s come to? Ads are more important than what I’m actually looking for? Are people really okay with this?
Invidious was created due to this, it’s an extremely light weight, ad free YouTube front-end. Most of YouTube’s attempts at blocking it out fixed within a week. Try it now: https://invidious.io/
this worked very well, found exactly what I was looking for.
YouTube is unusable without ReVanced or (insert preferred method for adblocking here)
SponsorBlock (alongside an ad blocker) is great for skipping ad reads plus a lot of other annoying bullshit.
Grayjay is amazing. It also supports different platforms like PeerTube, Odyssey, Twitch, etc. Revanced hasn’t been working for me for a while now.
You need to update revanced then.
unfuckingbelievable
if you want that without the “un” prefix, then youtube is maybe just the wrong platform for you.
and i strongly believe that youtube “wants” to force more usage of peertube, vimeo and others by enshitting yt every day a bit more. and they really work hard for that.
The tipping point for me to definitely use adblock was 2022 and the ads when forwarding in videos. It’s absolutely nonsense.
An idea for YouTube: make a way to watch ads separately and earn minutes, and then to spend earned minutes on watching actual videos without ads, lol.
So that you can leave ads running on your computer while you go do other stuff? Doesn’t seem like a good deal for Google.
It didn’t work out so well for Perk when they paid you to watch ads. But then again I was making $100 a week from my phone farm back in the day. Had 30 phones earning points at a time.
Google doesn’t care about eyeballs, just watch time, ad dollars, and click through rates.
But advertisers care, and they are the true customers Alphabet has to please.
Don’t give them ideas. If they had a reasonable number of ads, it wouldn’t be a problem, but they are absolutely out of control.
Enshit.
Enshat?
Who’s Steve Jobs?
If on a computer, install ublockorigin.
If on android, get revanced.
Enjoy not seeing ads at all.
PC user with AdBlock for YouTube on both Edge and Firefox. Game. Changed.
LOL, I was a little stunned going to YouTube when I moved to Firefox. “What is all this crap!?” thankfully they had the same extension.
Edge will loose it after the changes to Chromium roll out.
I see what you’re doing Nick Swardson
Even without the ads, the algorithm is so crap that I doubt you would find what you were looking for. On an iPhone you either pay for Premium for a shitty service or try building and sideloading uYouPlus. Adguard + Safari works to an extent and Brave might work better but haven’t tried it.
The recommendation algo works pretty well for me, and I don’t know why!
I’m a gun nut, watch tons of guntubers, so you would think I’d be overrun with right-wing crap, but I’m not. At all.
It’s annoying to watch a single video outside my typical interests and get a bunch of the same. But having said that, those recommendations quickly fade. For example, I was watching outdoor survival videos for a bit, predictably got hit with plenty more. But those are long gone.
Watched several videos about choosing and using gas masks one night. Here comes the survivalist, right-wing shit! But it didn’t really go that way. And again, faded fast.
Anyone have insight for me?
Safari with ad blocker YouTube end of story. I watch YT videos ad-free for years. How doesn’t everyone do this??
The ad industry is truly one of the most reprehensible and insidious things humans have ever invited unto themselves. It’s beyond dystopian how much of our ability to move through the world is now contingent on us allowing our brains to be bukkaked with ads that are designed specifically to bypass our rationality and embed themselves in the very fabric of our beings like psychological rootkits.
I believe conspiracism is the root of all evil. But ads are gaining on conspiracism like they’re Usain Bolt being chased by an angry bee.
I have to hand it to those soulless fucking devils though, they might have pulled off one of the most brazen but successful mindfucks I’ve ever seen: they convinced lots of people that seeing ads about topics they were interested in was some sort of concession from the ad industry, like they were begrudgingly implementing measures to make ads “relevant” to us, and that we were somehow gaming the system because of it. It was a “win” for us to have the ads being served into our eyeballs and ears be tailor-made for us. “I’m so sick of seeing ads for products I don’t even care about! I wish there was a way to make the ads be relevant to ME” said no cunt ever. But they managed to convinced us that everyone else was saying that, and that we’d won some sort of victory against them to have their advertising have the precision of a sniper rifle, versus what it was before, like some sort of shotgun fired from 150 feet away in the dark.
An entire species of marks.
I have been using adblockers for decades already. And it’s been that long since I had to see ads. Occasionally some site will have some way of it getting through but even then I have the plugin scan and it sometimes can start blocking it. Essentially, my internet has been 95% ad-free and frankly I am surprised when I encounter anyone who doesn’t do the same.
I’ve used an adblocker for ages as well, though I do wish content creators on YouTube could get some passive non-membership revenue from me without me having to disable my adblock and look directly into the Ark of the Covenant. I could get Premium, but at that point, I feel like I’ve negotiated with a terrorist.
If they have a Join in addition to subscribe that directly gives them revenue (of course not until after YouTube has taken like 80%). Also always see if they have a patreon account. I occasionally contribute to some very talented people.
For sure, that’s what I meant by membership. There’s just so many different creators I watch, I can’t afford to support them all directly. Maybe I’ll make some playlists to play on the TV with ads while I’m out of the house.
Yeah I agree there are tons and it’s not your responsibility to support them. My personal approach is if I stumble upon someone I find to be extremely talented and who is clearly working very hard at something and has been persevering for a long time, I then check to see if they’re already being helped by people. If not that’s when I consider contributing a little.
I mean I have my own family to support so it’s just a little bit here and there but it’s something. Mostly I consider it when I feel that the world is better with their work in it than without.
Most of them earn more from Patreon and merch, that’s how you support them greatly, not by watching and clicking ads.
Like, even the creators themselves tell you you can support them on Patreon or through their merch, they never tell you to get Premium, Join or click ads, as they don’t help much.
Remember that time when YT started showing banner ads below the video? Yeah, that was like just after the dinosaurs were wiped out and before blockchains became a thing. I was a long time ago, ok. Anyway, that’s when I was about to quit watching YT, but then I suddenly discovered the wonderful world of ad-blocking. Turns out, YT became watchable again.
PREACH
That and all the people who say shit like “But I have to watch the ads to support the creators”, like there wasn’t 70 years of TV advertisements preceding this generation. I know I’m talking to a kid when someone says that. No one thought they were stealing from Burt Reynolds if they didn’t buy a Chrysler or tampons. It’s absurd.
I like the way you English.
The link between conspiracies and ads is way stronger than that. The ad industry really went into high gear following WWII when the people working on pumping out propaganda to drive their own side of the war stepped up the game by applying psychology, new media, and a bigger budget.
Those people and techniques then moved to the commercial market when the war ended and applied their trade to peddle us the crap their customers wanted to sell. Make us feel bad if we don’t buy product X and go on an endless consumption treadmill to try to feel good and adequate about ourselves.
It is despicable and even worse with ads targeting children.
My god that was well written. We should be friends.
brains to be bukkaked with ads that are designed specifically to bypass our rationality and embed themselves in the very fabric of our beings like psychological rootkits.
and like 90% of people think they’re completely impervious to ads lol
HEY! YOU!!! JOIN THE NAVY!!!
Damn Superliminal advertising. It’s why I joined the Navy.
But, but, how will people know about our product?!😩
I feel your vitriol and agree with it 100%.
When politicians of both parties say shit like “Americans like their private health insurance”… I kind of die a little.
When a random podcast from somewhere else in the world has a local ad injected into it by the app I downloaded it with…same.
When the godamn fucking pitcher’s mound has a CGI ad superimposed over it…same.
We’re going to advertise and conspicuously consume ourselves into extinction. So there’s that I guess.
I know this is an incredibly unpopular take on Lemmy, but YT Premium is the best value subscription on the web by my reckoning. I watch an absolute fuck ton of content on YT, and I listen to an absolute fuck ton of music on YT music. And my partner does too.
If you don’t use YT enough to justify the cost of the sub, I understand being frustrated with the ads but it’s a free service. I can’t imagine the amount of data that YT serves daily to free users.
Yeah I’m with you on this, I actually only got it for YouTube music — which really is like “here you can play any song from the history of humanity and also yt video audios.” Well actually what happened is I was using Google Music and then the assholes shut it down and merged it into YT Music which is now roughly on par. I was pissed, but user retained
But I have been enjoying the fact that my subscription goes towards paying the ppl I watch, and I like that I’m unaffected by YT’s server side ads concept (which I’ve always wondered why they don’t do, I think it makes CDNs too hard to optimize while stitching ads directly into videos)
Well they’ve successfully extorted you.
Most of us use ad blockers.Extorted? Why are you so dramatic? It’s a service I’m happy to pay for.
I use ad blockers too. But I also don’t mind paying for a good service. The cost of the service is worth it to me for the conveniences it offers. If I didn’t feel that way, I wouldn’t pay for it, but I also wouldn’t be complaining about something I’m not paying for.
Sir! This is lemmy. You go with the hivemind or die in a fire.
“I pay for a thing because it’s worth it to me and here’s why.”
(OK, I’d like to hear your take…)
“Idiot! Capitalist apologist!”
Yeah if you enjoy some kinds of things that are only with it and it’s like more content there is nothing extortion about it. You kinda implied you pay for it so as to not see ads. My bad.
Honestly though I personally don’t think any of this stuff is worth paying for but I’m not typical. My wife and I pay for Az prime for the deliveries alone but we get tons of extra stuff with it such as streaming tv, grubhub+ and a few other things like hbo max and peacock I think.
We also pay for Netflix. With all that, I still often find I search for something and either nobody has it or Az has it but you have to pay extra.
I torrent everything I want and fuck the lot of them. We’re already paying them as it is. But then that’s how I’ve been doing most tv and movies since like early 2000s.
We pay Prime for the delivery options, and we buy a lot from Amazon. LOL, I even have Prime integrated on my Kodi server but my instinct is to pirate it first.
I also pay Prime for the delivery (it’s a cheap annual payment around these parts).
I also still torrent Prime shows, not out of instinct, but because it’s more convenient and less of a hassle, I get them in higher quality, and I can archive them for later.
Yeah, one day something is on a streaming service, the next day they’ve removed it. I always pir8.
I mean… pirating gives you the content saved on your own system, in the format you’ve chosen from those available, on your own system that’s not subject to pruning at their whims. My wife uses the prime video and Netflix because it’s easier for her, as I have not yet setup anything like Plex yet. I just use a pc connected to the TV, which is more complicated for her. But I’m going to eventually get something setup on Linux and a media center system like Plex or more likely something simpler.
Or YouTube vanced/revanced for mobile
I’m the same regarding Spotify. Only service I pay for, but I’m happy to do so for now. Not even a big music listener, but it’s damned nice to hear anything I want, anywhere I want, for a small fee.
My most frequent use case is off in the boondocks. I can download a dozen playlists to my phone and play them all offline.
And this is coming from a guy that used to download 20 song fragments off Usenet and compile them to get a single MP3. Also, I still steal all my video content.
I disagree on the value part. It’s more expensive than most other streaming aervices. If it was less than $10/mo I would sign up in a heartbeat
I thought it was $9.99/mo. What the hell are they charging for it?
$14/mo 🙃
best value subscription
My problem with it is that it reinforces toxic monopoly, and I don’t even know how much money goes to the creators.
Also they raised price multiple times lately
Same. I originally got it for YT music. I don’t listen to as much music as I used to without a commute anymore, but my wife and I watch a ton of YouTube. And it’s mildly more difficult to block ads on the Roku too. I know pi holes exist, but my wife plays those freemium games that give you currency for watching ads and blocking all ads will break shit for her and then I have to fix it. Someone will tell me there’s an easy solve I’m sure, but honestly the subscription is just way easier and I really don’t mind paying. $16/mo for a family plan is 100% worth it to just not deal with all of that.
You’ve discovered enshittification. Bad luck.
What I’m amazed about is that ads even work at all. Especially when they are white noise. I’ve never once clicked on an ad to go see more about the content because I’m here to watch a video.
Yeah, I’ve got to imagine as you cram more ads into a platform the effectiveness of the ads drops dramatically. Especially once users start leaving from being overwhelmed by ads.
How do people not know about ublock origin/sponsorblock? Lol
Even with ublock, the search is completely useless always mixing barely relevant videos with ones that have nothing to do with your terms at all.
From: https://snee.la/stash/#misc (disclaimer: this is my website)
Relevant YouTube Search: Youtube search results become super irrelevant after 6-8 results. Substitute your search query in the %s part of the url (from: /u/FrezNelson on reddit) to remove them.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%25s&sp=CAASAhAB
All these comments about adblockers - you’re truly naive if you think those are going to last in any capacity.
Chrome/Edge are already going to be neutering the majority of the functionality with manifest v3.
Firefox is already starting to see some commercialization/enshitification with this new exec. Adblocker days are numbered. Soon they’ll be streaming the ads in-line with the videos everywhere and you’ll need to have a special hacked up rig just to content filter and be forced to sit in silence for X minutes.
Just because the problem is at your neighbors house, doesn’t mean it won’t come to yours.
Ah what a very helpful and hopeful look into the future that totally doesn’t ignore the present.
