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I’ve never met a woman who’s remotely into woodworking…
The implication is their level of attraction to their partner
Ah thanks. Too much half asleep to interpret it
On way to and from work I am reading a book in Russian (Crime and Punishment/. Now I wonder how close to 100% is that.
Depends, is it about cooking?
Sadly, no. And I don’t know how to cook. Must be closer to 0% then.
Still doin better than ol’ Raskolnivok. Man’s would be lost without Nastasya.
I didn’t get into blacksmithing until after we got married, so I guess I don’t know what she saw in me. I guess the fact that I’m not involved with anything in the lower chart probably has helps. Could also be my cooking.
How is weed so low? I get it’s not literally everyone’s cup of tea but I’m my experience more people partake or are ok with it than not.
I guess it’s like drinking, I don’t think the casual drinking is an issue but if you start calling it your hobby it becomes more problematic.
I’m not sure how the survey was phrased to participants, but to me a “hobby” is a regular thing someone does, as their way to pass the time/have fun. I’ve smoked before and have no problem with it, but I do think I would find it less attractive for it to be someone’s hobby, as opposed to an occasional social thing they do.
Similarly I have no problem with people watching porn, but if it’s gone far enough for it to be considered their hobby, then that is less attractive to me, which also matches the chart.
I might be misunderstanding the word hobby, but so might many of the survey participants.
I see this list as “things women would like to have a detailed conversation about with their partner”.
Less “do you use weed” and more “am I going to have to sit here and listen to you mansplain the difference between sativa and indica for the next two hours”
It’s mostly the “hobby” bit, which implies that this is one of your favorite, regular free-time activities. If you are someone who smokes weed a few times a year in social situations, that is a different situation.
A lot of people would find it difficult to be around someone who spends their time smoking unless they are really into it too. The smell especially can be really grating/annoying, and the person smoking often doesn’t realize because they have become smell-blind over time (similar to tobacco smokers).
I guess I was unsure how dedicated “hobby” was.
Do you own at least one t-shirt with a weed leaf on it?
In my sphere, very few people use it. And it is mostly frowned upon. Primarily, if it’s smoked. It’s regarded as crude, and gross. I’d say edibles are more accepted, but you don’t talk really talk about it.
Your sphere seems fun.
Well, I guess it depends on your definition of fun. Concerts? Board games? Survival or RTS games? Work? We do those. I use edibles sometimes. My wife isn’t a huge fan. Nobody I know approves of smoking.
My social circle isn’t a pot den, lol. Actually most don’t partake either now that my circle already changed some.
But very few think anything negative about it, it’s mostly just because their jobs prevent them from it.
I know far more people that would judge a cigarette smoker than would judge a weed smoker. I’ve only known two people course to my age that smoked at all. One quit years ago and the other has a whole new set of medical problems (on top of what she already had going on). I don’t know if these new problems have anything to do with it, but I pretty much just assume any cigarette smoker with any medical problem has it because of the cigarettes. Probably a little too overboard for accuracy, but as far as I’m concerned they’re just death. There is literally zero… Absolutely zero benefits to it at all, if you smoke you have only had things come of it. (Would love to hear a counter example, but I don’t think any exist)
Anyway, that’s a whole tangent so let me stop before I really get going.
Suffice it to say, that my meaning was that people who are against it (in my experience) are always uptight, religious, or something similar.
Unless they have a specific reason that they don’t like it, I just probably wouldn’t be friends with them. Just judging it because good told em to or whatever. Maybe that’s just because I’m in the south and I just don’t know what other areas are like.
But for me, you’re either morally just fine with it but don’t partake, a user (with a huge spectrum of frequency and amount), hate it because of paranoia, or a straight up Jesus freak.
I realize there are people who just somehow don’t like it, but to look down on it in general just screams like a group of people that are no fun.
And for what it’s worth, concerts are fun but exhausting, board games are AMAZING (I’m still sad about all the games I have that I can’t play anymore for now because I lost the group of roommates I had)
Most of them weren’t mine but I owned a few favorites and they’re just sitting in a storage shed now :'(
Survival I’m ok with, not a huge fan. RTS though I can’t stand as a genre. I grew up on games where you push a button, and something moves. Simulation, strategy, any genre where you’re managing resources and stuff just totally doesn’t sit with me.
At least in video games. Board games that do that kinda thing are fine usually.
I could conceded that my wife and I may be a little uptight, but most of our group is atheist or at least agnostic. So, just an internal uptightness. Lol.
Man, I also miss having a group of board game buddies too. Most of us have toddlers or kindergarteners now, and free time is extremely limited. Later this month we do have a kid free game night I’m really looking forward to. I have some weird old ones nobody has ever played I bust out from time to time to break up the long-form modern games we would normally do, like Arkham Horror.
I mostly grew up with 2D platformers and racing games, but I don’t play them hardly at all anymore. I think part of the appeal of RTS and survival games for me is the freedom. There’s no path to follow, you just wander anywhere and do whatever you want. Games like The Forest, and Fallout 3, and Seven Days to Die are among my faves currently. And for RTS, I like Battlezone II and I’ve dabbled in some Red Alert. I prefer open world freedom in my shooters, too. My favorites are Battlefield 1942 and all of its fantastic mods, and Star Wars Battlefront 2 (the original, not the EA one). But I pretty much play everything solo, with bots. I don’t want to play with internet strangers, and it’s rare I get people over for a LAN party.
If you want to try any old board games that don’t get enough love, I recommend Score Four, Twixt, and Touché.
Damn now that’s the first time I’ve felt young in the Internet in a while. Arkham Horror was the first “real” board game I ever heard of when I first played, and what launched my interest in it at all. So calling it modern got me lol. I’m not sure if that was the oldest game we played, but it well might be.
I’d say anything college or later is modern to me. Probably why I still have a Windows XP gaming PC. XD
You might want to consider stepping outside your social circle just for the sake of broadening your horizons.
I feel like the hell been ‘reading’ and ‘comic books’ is a bit unfair.
I mean there plenty of written stuff that’s demonstrably worse than anything in comics.
And comics that are absolutely amazing, like Sandman and Persepolis
Sandman isn’t flawless but it’s the best stuff not by Moore. Fables (the first story that ends around 12-16 at least) was a fun read after finishing Sandman.
I think they should’ve polled superhero comics separately from comics in general.
My favorite lately is Bea Wolf, a retelling of Beowolf. Oh! And Pebble and Wren.
I do a lot of the top attractive hobbies and my wife is hot af.
I guess my astrophotography hobby has cancelled out my drinking and porn hobbies lol
Sure, people say hiking is attractive, but I can only assume there’s a bias to forest hiking.
Meanwhile, I go out and do a four to five hour urban hike and people act have some sort of disorder.
“wHy DoN’t YoU jUsT dRiVe?” Because a drive to the beer store in the town across the river is an errand, a walk to the same place is a fucking ADVENTURE, Helen!
Wait… So the fact that I walk 5 miles a day means that I go on a hike every day?
I actually have a bias against the forest hikes. Had a gf that loved going on nature walks. I probably wouldn’t have hated them so much if smartphones had existed back then, but nope just flip phones.
That means that of all the stuff on top, I don’t do gardening, or travelling… Mostly.
I mean, a hike is really just a long walk. It often refers to long walks in the country or wilderness, but that isn’t a necessary component.
That said, I don’t know if anyone has any real strict distance thresholds for a ‘hike’ (see: minimum 10 miles/16 km or something). I could maybe see adding a caveat that it should be for purely recreational purposes, rather than say walking to work or something.
Fuck it - you’re an avid hiker IMO. Walks in nature are nice, don’t get me wrong, but I like all the hidden gems you can find hiking in an urban environment (I count graffiti, weird posters, dilapidated buildings/infrastructure, weird shit on the side of the road, etc.)
Lifting is probably the most attractive. Women like looking at fit men.
I speak from experience when I say you will get much, much more attention from guys admiring your work and wanting to trade workout tips than from women wanting to hop into bed with you.
A sense of humor and the ability to make interesting conversation will make up for a beer gut or scrawny arms.
We aren’t talking about that though. What we’re talking about is hobbies. Money would be an even better Stat to have then both the things you mentioned.
“Money would be a better stat”.
Little red flag going up…
That reply is pretty measured considering the topic of women’s preferences was already set. They weren’t going out of their way to hate on women.
People can be pretty shallow creatures, men and women alike. So obviously, whilst money or beauty is not the be all and end all, it allows people to make a better first impression and pass some initial filters. Denying that is just deluding yourself.
Obviously there are always going to be exceptions, some people are actively repulsed by wealth or the current beauty standards
I think there’s a line where it crosses over. Being “in shape” definitely makes you more attractive to women. Being anything above that definitely appeals more to men, and for many women even makes you less attractive
Yes. Generally speaking, women will find a person who is healthy and reasonably physically fit more attractive than someone who is obese or unhealthily thin.
The problem is that the point of diminishing returns on actual body building happens pretty fast. Some women do prefer guys who are big piles of muscle, but that’s a minority.
I learned that from experience. The reason “work out until somebody loves me” works is because you’re giving yourself time and learning to be a person who is fine being alone, not because of hours in the gym.
learning to be a person who is fine being alone
This is rarely mentioned but very important. If you’re not okay with being alone you’ll be desperate, which is very unattractive to just about everybody.
Once you’re fine with being alone the next step is finding someone who’s even better than being alone.
I’m reading comicbooks. Check potential mate!
New tinder profile: I’m a traveling blacksmith archer hiking today in your town. I’d love to cook you dinner and serve it on the portable table I handcrafted. I’d probably cook something from my own recipe book, hope you don’t mind.
Meanwhile pornhub is >30% women, but only 10% ticked the ‘porn’ box???
As for the porn; there is a big difference in consuming porn, and having porn as a hobby. Similar to the difference of driving a car and having cars as your hobby.
Where is gaming?
Mini painting not in either list.
It was almost worth seeing the rest of this just to see Funko in dead last.
MTG in this context stands for Magic The Gathering?
What?! But my Conspiracy Cube brings all the chicks to the yard!
I was wondering when Marjorie Taylor Greene became a hobby…
Why is makeup so low? To me that’s super attractive if a guy likes wearing makeup because it shows that he is secure in his masculinity and probably isn’t a misogynistic asshole, but maybe I’m just into feminine men?
(Also I’m not saying that if guys don’t like wearing makeup then they’re insecure, it’s just that makeup is a visible thing so it’s easier to tell that they’re most likely more secure)
Why is makeup so low? To me that’s super attractive if a guy likes wearing makeup because it shows that he is secure in his masculinity and probably isn’t a misogynistic asshole, but maybe I’m just into feminine men?
i really hate makeup, it’s nothing other than an artistic expression of what you think you look good as.
which if you want to do it, i’m not stopping you i have better things to care about. But it’s also not that deep, there is no connection between men wearing makeup and being secure in their masculinity, there is a connection between men who won’t wear makeup because it’s bad for their masculinity and their insecurity in masculinity.
I feel like this is like saying “men who shave their faces are secure in their masculinity”
Did you see what I put in paren at the bottom?
Also I strongly disagree with the statement that there is no connection between men wearing makeup and them being secure in their masculinity.
… there is a connection between men who won’t wear makeup because … their insecurity in masculity.
This is exactly why I like men who are into makeup, because they’re not going to be insecure in their masculinity most likely.
For me this comes from having lots of bad experiences with masculine presenting men and it takes me a long time to feel safe around a guy, but if they are more feminine presenting I feel much safer around them because all the feminine guys I know have never done anything to make me feel unsafe.
The majority of women on this earth will permanently lose her ability to like or respect a man if she ever perceives him as being too feminine. The definition of “being too feminine” varies from woman to woman but often includes crying, expressing any emotion other than anger, wearing makeup, driving a sedan, any number of fashion things, having or liking cats, liking or caring for children, so and and so forth.
I remember back in high school or college, around the time the first three Pirates of the Caribbean movies were coming out and Johnny Depp was America’s heart throb, I knew exactly two girls who specifically said they liked the eye shadow he was wearing. Relatedly, I’ve worn my hair long a few times in my life, and those specific two girls liked playing with my hair. Most of the rest of the women I’ve ever been with didn’t really want much to do with it.
I’ve worn my hair long a few times in my life, and those specific two girls liked playing with my hair. Most of the rest of the women I’ve ever been with didn’t really want much to do with it.
i think it depends on how you wear the hair, and how you carry yourself, there are a handful of masculine long hair styles that just don’t work outside of a masculine aesthetic i think. Or at least have a perceptibly different aesthetic due to the person they’re attached to.
This is a lot less common among younger generations though. People care a lot less.
I brush my hair straight to get the tangles out then tie it back in a simple pony tail at the base of my skull. I don’t really style it much myself.
Interesting, I’m wondering if that’s a generational difference or if it’s because I tend to hang around other queer people since I haven’t really experienced that with women.
I’m a trans woman and I wasn’t out when I was in highschool but I did present myself as a somewhat feminine man then and there were quite a few guys that I upset by simply existing, however women were more interested in talking to me after I started presenting more femininely. Although I think this is because they thought I was a gay man, and thus felt safer around me.
Hang on, the real story here is more than 3 in 100 find Manosphere attractive
What the actual fuck is that?
Could be similar energy to women who proudly want to be trad wives. And those who think that because they had it shitty, others should also have to go through that.
On another note, I wonder what the divide looks like for women who start with that mindset naively and then end up a) getting lucky and not getting burnt by that mindset (and stay naive about it), b) consider it a rite of passage or the way things should be (and continue supporting it despite no longer being naive about it), or c) change their mindset after enough wake-up calls. There’s probably also some that start out as b) but then changes to a c) when they see the same shit happening to their daughters or nieces or other loved ones and decide that’s too much. At least I’d hope so.
It’s actually below the lizardman constant.
In 2013 a Public Policy Polling poll found
four percent of Americans believe lizardmen are running the Earth", which Alexander attributed to people giving a polling company an answer they did not really believe to be true, out of carelessness, politeness, anger, or amusement
