For those baffled by Donald Trump’s forays into meandering discourses about electrocution, bacons sales or cannibal killers at his recent political rallies, the former US president had an explanation.

Trump assured supporters in Pennsylvania on Saturday that what might look like incoherent ramblings as he frequently departed from his scripted speech were instead indicators of his brilliance that impressed other great minds.

“I do the weave. You know what the weave is? I’ll talk about, like, nine different things that they all come back brilliantly together. And it’s like friends of mine that are like English professors, they say: ‘It’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen,’” he told a bemused audience.

“But the fake news, you know what they say, ‘He rambled.’ It’s not rambling. What you do is you get off a subject to mention another little tidbit, then you get back on to the subject, and you go through this and you do it for two hours, and you don’t even mispronounce one word.”

But, increasingly, many others are not persuaded, including some of his own supporters.

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    The author gets to the crux near the end. Trump supporters don’t come to speeches for policy, they come for performance art. That’s what they expect from their leaders, because that’s what they’re trained to expect.

    Between American entertainment trying to blur the lines between fantasy/ reality, and 24 hour news networks making everything a big deal the public at large has atrophied critical thinking skills.

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    No, don’t you all see? He’s actually so genius that we mere mortals can’t comprehend his brilliance, as attested to by his multiple friends who are totally real English professors who exist and spend time with him, and are definitely not fictitious people he just made up on the spot to try to strengthen an obviously bullshit argument. Well, no, you wouldn’t have heard them, because they, um, teach at a different school, but the important part is that they are intelligent enough to see the clever underlying structure of his wide ranging and definitely intellectually brilliant speeches, and the rest of apparently aren’t.

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        How dare you, I’m sure that they are good patriotic American English professors! They’re just from a different state than you.

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    I still find it amazing people believe the same constant child like lying.

    Everyone says… A close friend of mine said… A professor said… Everyone knows…

    …That I have the bestest (health/speech/IQ/humbleness/big hands)

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    This is just the latest deflection from a man who knows he is entirely unfit for office. It’s pathetic that our politics has brought us to this place.

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    Let me try this weave shit:

    So I woke up, the sky is, opened my fridge, the best fridge, everybody, I got out bed, you know where you sleep, i have the best bed everyone knows that. Grabbed some blue sky with some clouds, big clouds because i got bacon, you know bacon, the best bacon like my pillow my pillow is great that cloud up there that bigly cloud that’s because of windmills, you don’t want windmills they’re killing bacon and like i said you know bacon it’s great i like it on my hamburgers you know hamburgers the best hamburgers have bacon but no windmills, it’s not going to raid because that windmill and that cloud they don’t mix they don’t the windmill takes all the wind and that’s why it’s hot out but there’s not global warming i use my blanket at night because it’s soo cold because of the bacon or the windmills yeah the windmills are why it’s cold they’re bad Kamala likes windmills and let me tell you how bad they are, they’re bad I know because I’m a very stable genius and the sky the sky it has another cloud you see that? do you do you see that? it’s because of Joe Biden that’s right it’s Sleepy Joe’s fault and let me tell you, Tesla and Elon great guy the best really smart guy not like Kamala no no not like her she wants to can you believe this can you? My bacon is getting cold it’s the evil democrats fault…

    Yeah wow, it’s a lot harder than I thought, he must be some kind of genius… OR the dementia is getting worse, much worse.

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      A dude I’d gone to school with tracked me down and started stalking me. The first time he showed up at my door he talked just like that. Seemed he’s ended up on heavy drugs on the street and developed some severe psychosis.

      Gotta say it was super weird reading that.

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          I sound like that when severely sleep deprived, like ive been awake for 5 days straight and am actively hallucinating levels of sleep deprivation. Mind you im usually actively trying to not do that but still.

          Also I hallucinate porn for some fucking reason. How do I turn down the horny?

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    I love it. He thinks what he is doing is the same thing that John Oliver does masterfully on Last Week Tonight. What he’s actually doing I cannot for sure say, but I am fairly certain it involves extreme ADHD with maybe a side of schizophrenia and some sort of personality disorder. Oh and a large helping of rapidly worsening dementia.

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      I have ADHD. I’ve described my train of thought as less a single train on a single track, but each car on one of 8 tracks, some of which are multitrack drifting. But I don’t sound like Trump. He sounds like he’s lost his marbles and when he bends over to pick one up, dumps out the rest of the bag.

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        I have adhd too, the multitrack drifting has a point! It’s all leading to something specific. Trump? He never had a point.

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        I also have ADHD (and know a lot of people with it) and totally agree. We may be hard to understand at times, but we have a clear line of tangents that can be explained. Trump on the other hand has no coherence or traceable train of thought. He just jumps between half-finished, completely unrelated thoughts.

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      The scary thing is that so many people jive with that weird insanitary mental disorder.

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          It’s absolutely Stockholm syndrome for their leadership, but average Republicans act more like (bad) cultists in most of the ways that matter:

          Vague, nonspecific language in their modern tenets that can be interpreted any number of ways

          A propensity and desire for isolation

          Extreme concentration of wealth

          Women viewed as breeding machines

          Messianic idolatry of leaders and natural acceptance of hierarchical segregation

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      schizophrenia

      I’m not a psychiatrist, but I talked with one about what looks like this AFAIK, if I understood correctly, he called it lose associations, associating things all over the place disregarding their lack of relevance.

      Of course just exhibiting one symptom, doesn’t mean he is schizophrenic.

      I think Trump does show some ADHD like behavior too, again I’m not a professional, but I think the problem for people with ADHD is that they forget where they came from, and Trump does seem to be able to get back to that.

      But for sure, this is not a normal way to present your views. Except for a small child maybe, which fits the toddler label often associated with Trumps behavior.

      So my best guess is that Trump is mentally like a child for whatever reason (Dementia most likely). Obviously besides being a malignant narcissist and pathological liar.

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        Of course just exhibiting one symptom, doesn’t mean he is schizophrenic.

        He is not. He is just a cunt, without any mental disorder apart from sociopathy and extreme narcissism.

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          I fucking hate these people who see Trump who is a huge malignant shitstain and immediately jump to pinning it on my disability and the medication I use to remedy it.

          He’s a dipshit whose point is causing suffering of those he believes deserve it.

          When he trips over his words trying to express those fucked up, poorly evidenced points to potentially well-adjusted viewers, these ableistic fucks go “golly gee, he surely must have a decent point, but his ADHD and/or addy habit caused him to forget”

          the ableism is rampant in this thread holy shit.

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        This is absolutely not ADHD, this is his dementia and substance abuse. Having ADHD you may be distracted while trying to tell someone about something, but you’ll be excited to talk about a special interest which may lead into another, but stuff will make sense and often more in depth than most care to hear.

        Trump however has no interests beyond grifting and trying to sleep with Ivanka. However he word salads about a bunch of things he knows little to nothing about. He slurs words all over the place, stops mid-word and like brain skips for a sec, and then just goes into something unrelated. It’s like his brain is constantly corrupting and causing a reboot.

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        I think Trump does show some ADHD like behavior too, again I’m not a professional, but I think the problem for people with ADHD is that they forget where they came from, and Trump does seem to be able to get back to that.

        Could it be the teleprompter?

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        I think Trump does show some ADHD like behavior too, again I’m not a professional, but I think the problem for people with ADHD is that they forget where they came from, and Trump does seem to be able to get back to that.

        Couldn’t that just be because it typically has a teleprompter telling him what he’s supposed to be talking about?

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      Donald Trump definitely does not have schizophrenia. ADHD is a maybe, but Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a certainty.

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    In psychology terms we call it tangentiality or a tangential affect. Where the subject starts on one topic, and the digresses to other loosely or unrelated topics. It’s a marker for mental illness.

    Or we could just call it what it is, pulling it out of your ass.

    • It’s not rambling! It’s just weaving off topic for a little bit while you’re talking and then off of that topic to a third one and so on and then eventually maybe you just drop something so you can go back to the script. Rambling is something completely different, obvs.

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    I love that the highlight of “the weave” is that “you don’t even mispronounce one word”.

    Stong Abe Simpson “I am not a communist” vibes.